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Cartman718
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10/28/2007  9:02 PM
Craw's chemistry with Curry hasn't shown up yet. Steph has just found God and drugs at the same time.

I'd rather have Nate or Collins start at PG.
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10/28/2007  9:13 PM
Please make it Collins with Nate as the backup.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/29/2007  4:03 PM
what... is 4949 the only one here other than me who thinks marbs or craw need to and will sit if they dont play "the right way"? :)
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10/29/2007  4:13 PM
Yes, the three captains, Marbaby, Crawful and Chubby all should come of the bench. The problem is finding guys who should start.
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10/29/2007  4:15 PM
Crawford needs to be butied on that bench.

I have never seen so much bad basketball from one player, he doesn't seem to get it.

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10/29/2007  4:16 PM
Posted by Cartman718:

Craw's chemistry with Curry hasn't shown up yet. Steph has just found God and drugs at the same time.

I'd rather have Nate or Collins start at PG.
That have ntohing to do with his play though.

He have been playing decently.

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10/29/2007  5:10 PM
for how many games? if i were a betting man, i could bet he'd have some sort of isiah-caused breakdown like he did with LB? no?
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10/29/2007  9:00 PM
Posted by Cartman718:

Craw\'s chemistry with Curry hasn\'t shown up yet. Steph has just found God and drugs at the same time.

I\'d rather have Nate or Collins start at PG.

You would like to see more effeciency and smart play from the backcourt. The key guy is Crawford. I\'ve always held out hope--well before he became a Knick--in terms of what I believe this guiy can do if he plays smart. This guy could?SHOULD be a 6-5 PG not a SG and use his superior height at the 1 with his ball skills/passing ability/driving ability to run a club instead of what he is now. It won\'t happen with Marbury here and it may never happen in general. I know Jamal can get hot but he\'s just not in the same class of shooting guards like a rip etc.. that can shoot 45%+ that you can count on night in and out. The balance is just not here on this team and while pure talent will help us IMPROVE where is it going--where is the long term direction? We won some games but the big thing that stood out in my mind was the 3 BIG time blowout losses. Do good teams lose like that? I like the brand of basketball we played in the summer--it was fluid-- the players had good chemistry--the roles were in place we had a two way thing going--who knows I just hope that sometime soon someone comes along and finds 6-7 guys who really want to win and know how to play smart tough basketball. Also--that thing with Jamal cowarding down like that to Pierce----is that NY??????looks like he may have soiled himself--- Im not saying throw punches--but knock his hand down--
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10/30/2007  6:04 AM
I'm sitting craw and stephon and starting

NATE
MARDY-or Q RICH
CHANDLER
LEE
Z-BO
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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10/30/2007  7:41 AM
Posted by playa2:

I'm sitting craw and stephon and starting

NATE
MARDY-or Q RICH
CHANDLER
LEE
Z-BO

Yeah lets see how many games you win with that lineup.
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10/30/2007  7:46 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Cartman718:

Craw\'s chemistry with Curry hasn\'t shown up yet. Steph has just found God and drugs at the same time.

I\'d rather have Nate or Collins start at PG.

You would like to see more effeciency and smart play from the backcourt. The key guy is Crawford. I\'ve always held out hope--well before he became a Knick--in terms of what I believe this guiy can do if he plays smart. This guy could?SHOULD be a 6-5 PG not a SG and use his superior height at the 1 with his ball skills/passing ability/driving ability to run a club instead of what he is now. It won\'t happen with Marbury here and it may never happen in general. I know Jamal can get hot but he\'s just not in the same class of shooting guards like a rip etc.. that can shoot 45%+ that you can count on night in and out. The balance is just not here on this team and while pure talent will help us IMPROVE where is it going--where is the long term direction? We won some games but the big thing that stood out in my mind was the 3 BIG time blowout losses. Do good teams lose like that? I like the brand of basketball we played in the summer--it was fluid-- the players had good chemistry--the roles were in place we had a two way thing going--who knows I just hope that sometime soon someone comes along and finds 6-7 guys who really want to win and know how to play smart tough basketball. Also--that thing with Jamal cowarding down like that to Pierce----is that NY??????looks like he may have soiled himself--- Im not saying throw punches--but knock his hand down--

All during the summer league- I said I'd rather watch that group loose 70 than our current roster of overpaid underachieving career losers win 30+.
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10/30/2007  7:51 AM
I actually think you need to start Nate- he is the only knick besides dnic who can give us anything from outside the 3 pt line. Maybe chandler will.

Teams are going to collapse like mad against us. Curry will score 8 points for the other team off turnovers. Randolph will contribute as well. Can an NBA team average 20 turnovers a game for a season? Has it been done yet?
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10/30/2007  8:07 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Cartman718:

Craw\'s chemistry with Curry hasn\'t shown up yet. Steph has just found God and drugs at the same time.

I\'d rather have Nate or Collins start at PG.

You would like to see more effeciency and smart play from the backcourt. The key guy is Crawford. I\'ve always held out hope--well before he became a Knick--in terms of what I believe this guiy can do if he plays smart. This guy could?SHOULD be a 6-5 PG not a SG and use his superior height at the 1 with his ball skills/passing ability/driving ability to run a club instead of what he is now. It won\'t happen with Marbury here and it may never happen in general. I know Jamal can get hot but he\'s just not in the same class of shooting guards like a rip etc.. that can shoot 45%+ that you can count on night in and out. The balance is just not here on this team and while pure talent will help us IMPROVE where is it going--where is the long term direction? We won some games but the big thing that stood out in my mind was the 3 BIG time blowout losses. Do good teams lose like that? I like the brand of basketball we played in the summer--it was fluid-- the players had good chemistry--the roles were in place we had a two way thing going--who knows I just hope that sometime soon someone comes along and finds 6-7 guys who really want to win and know how to play smart tough basketball. Also--that thing with Jamal cowarding down like that to Pierce----is that NY??????looks like he may have soiled himself--- Im not saying throw punches--but knock his hand down--

I've only been saying this since we acquired Crawford.

I would LOVE to see Craw at the one!!!
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10/30/2007  9:50 AM
shoulda coulda woulda......craw is not going to do that imho.

but its about playing matchups. i am not opposed to playing nate/mardy with qrich in the starting guards lineup because there are times when fast PGs just blow by marbury for a layup. sure he can do that to the opposing PG at the other end, but nate and collins are young and fast enough defensively to not allow guys to just blow by them. with nate, you cant back him down either, because he is that strong.

if opposing PG/SGs are slow, then sure we match up well with them with marbs and craw. but the way the game is going these days......marbs and craw are going to have a tough time defending.
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10/30/2007  11:02 AM
Who gives a **** about chemistry between two guys that don't play defense. Has anyone noticed that the knicks are a better team when curry is off the floor? the same goes with jamal.

Marbury/Collins
Q/Nate
Balkman/Jefferies
Lee/Morris
Zach/Curry

Should be the starting lineup and the reserves, Crawford has not proved to be a valuable player in the nba, curry should not get more than 25 minutes on the floor. This team has potential it will never realize it as long as the baby bulls are on the court at the same time.

Can we actually watch the games and come to the conclusion that Jamal is not a very good player, he shoots 40% every year and he can beat anyone off the dribble, he is shooting 28% in the preseason and he is not worried? He hasn't won more than 33 games in seven seasons and for the most part has played 30+ minutes on those teams. Isiah wake up, trade the kid to kings with chandler for artest clear some salary add some defense and win some games
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10/30/2007  11:07 AM
Posted by MS:

Who gives a **** about chemistry between two guys that don't play defense. Has anyone noticed that the knicks are a better team when curry is off the floor? the same goes with jamal.

Marbury/Collins
Q/Nate
Balkman/Jefferies
Lee/Morris
Zach/Curry

Should be the starting lineup and the reserves, Crawford has not proved to be a valuable player in the nba, curry should not get more than 25 minutes on the floor. This team has potential it will never realize it as long as the baby bulls are on the court at the same time.

Can we actually watch the games and come to the conclusion that Jamal is not a very good player, he shoots 40% every year and he can beat anyone off the dribble, he is shooting 28% in the preseason and he is not worried? He hasn't won more than 33 games in seven seasons and for the most part has played 30+ minutes on those teams. Isiah wake up, trade the kid to kings with chandler for artest clear some salary add some defense and win some games

i kinda agree with this. My lineup would be:

Marbury/Nate/Collins
Q/Jones/Jamal
Balkman/Jefferies/Chandler
Lee/Jefferies
Zach/Curry

I am so down on Jamal/Curry these days.
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10/30/2007  11:42 AM
Agreed we just need defenders on the floor at all times since we have guys that can score at will, we need active affective smart play out there.

I wish there was someway to package Eddy, Jamal for Tyson Chandler he would be gold out there with zach and lee
Craw and/or Marbs need to go to the bench

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