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djsunyc
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10/22/2007  6:08 PM
A grumpy Isiah

Something's bugging Isiah Thomas. It's obvious to any of us who talk to him on almost a daily basis.

It isn't surprising, considering what hangs over him and his responsibility for it, according to a jury.

Still, a guy who during his New York tenure has been more than willing to address any subject, at length, albeit on his own terms and, before he became coach, infrequently, is now the master of the one-word, indefinite answer.

He sounds like a product of the Garden's media-training program that helped get Larry Brown fired.

Which could be one of the issues here, although there are one or two potential explanations for his sudden terseness:

1. He's decided the New York/New Jersey media has beaten him up beyond his breaking point and he's not going to take it any more. Clearly, after the Anucha Browne Sanders trail verdict, he hoped some writers and broadcasters might come to his defense. Instead, he's gotten hammered even more and he's decided to take it out on the people he believes are wielding the hammers.

2. He now finds himself under someone's thumb, either Commissioner David Stern, or more likely, owner James L. Dolan, who could get hit with an $11.6 million pop as a result of the trial, in part because of a "culture" Thomas has instilled, even though the Knicks' president-coach wasn't assessed a dime in the original verdict.

This is the more plausible theory, that Thomas now finds a guillotine blade hanging over his head, his potential firing now used a threat, much as "significant progress" was last season.

Dolan hasn't talked all preseason and, like the sporting version of the Soviet Union that it is, the organization is zipped up tight.

And you can bet, if Thomas happens to get whacked, despite his new three-year contract extension that starts this season, Dolan and Co. would give him the Brown treatment and try to retain at least a portion of what they owe him.

Whether any of these theories are true or not, Thomas has zipped it up. Ask him a yes-no question (which Interviewing 101 says should be avoided, particularly an old Barbara Walters book that is the definitive guide to the craft, no mattter what you think of her) and you get a yes-no answer, no more.

Even press him, as reporters did during Monday's pre-game morning shootaround, and he'll rarely give an inch.

For instance, asked to discuss, besides his stated goal of "staying healthy," what he hopes to accomplish with his team the final week of preseason, Thomas paused, then answered, "I want to see us stay healthy and keep our conditioning up."

Four times he answered a yes-no question, which sometimes is necessary, with either a yes, no or "Yes I do."

Far less than what people used to get from a guy who'd launch into how he survived growing up on the west side of Chicago at a moment's notice.

This, of course, gives writers the license to, as Dallas Green used to say after a particularly difficult loss during his days as Mets manager, "Write what you see, Stevie."

(He, Bob Murphy and a dear, departed grandmother were/are the only people allowed to use, "Stevie," for the record).

So, instead of what Thomas says (which he believes is often misinterpreted or taken out of context), people will now write what they see.

Which he may find out to be no better than what he's reading now.

http://njmg.typepad.com/knickknacks/2007/10/a-grumpy-isiah.html

[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-22-2007 6:08 PM]
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10/22/2007  6:23 PM
Maybe he heard the diss track.
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10/22/2007  6:26 PM
And you can bet, if Thomas happens to get whacked, despite his new three-year contract extension that starts this season, Dolan and Co. would give him the Brown treatment and try to retain at least a portion of what they owe him.

Oh please God, make that happen.
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10/22/2007  6:29 PM
Far less than what people used to get from a guy who'd launch into how he survived growing up on the west side of Chicago at a moment's notice.

LMAO
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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10/22/2007  8:40 PM
He walked in at the half with a sorrowful grumpy look on his face.
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10/22/2007  10:55 PM
the arrogance that once made him an unstoppable force finally met his match in the court of law.

Isiah is dead man walking, once the appeal is done Dolan has no use for him. MSG will be painted evil in the eyes of many and it would be bad business to keep him on any longer.

Dolan has likely castrated the once great Isiah into a listless dog and the tick tock just clicks off the final moments of his career.

His playing days gave him so many opportunities its just a shame that he never learned the humility of being in charge of many and what the ramifications are when you just want what you want and don't care about others.


Smile Isiah, life is good despite your efforts to ruin yourself!
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10/23/2007  1:19 AM
The only people who can save Isiah are Lee, Zack, Nate, Eddy, Steph...
But can they save anybody? And should they?
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10/23/2007  4:42 AM
The piece of **** is acting like a dead man walking. And I'm enjoying every second of it.

Most Knicks fans hate him now and it's just a matter of time before there are undeniably loud chants for his dismissal, just like Layden before him. Once the appeal is denied and Dolan is forced to pay $3M out of his own pocket, Isiah will be out on his ass, from the last executive position he will ever have. Isiah knows the team he put together isn't good enough to save him. As a known sexual harasser and failed executive, he's done in corporate America as well. And forget television, even with his fake smile, he's as likable as the clap.

Isiah can sell his popcorn and count his MSG money (although Dolan may look to Larry Brown him and take him to arbitration after he cost him millions with his lewd behavior) all he wants, just as long as it's far away from the Knicks. They'll be needing years to clean up his mess as it is.
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10/23/2007  7:22 AM
So, Isles, where do you stand on immigration?
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10/23/2007  8:30 AM
Knicks played well but Isiah Is Stressed out

(big deal)

"The stress from the trial and its aftermath is starting to show on Thomas, whose mood in recent days has ranged anywhere from distracted to miserable.

Last week, when asked a medical question about a player, Thomas responded by telling a reporter that the team's doctor can best answer the question. The reporter then reminded Thomas that the Knicks do not make their medical staff available to the press.

"You're lucky I'm available," Thomas fired back before chuckling.

- Isola

The Knicks as a team were grumpy too

"The game featured a near-altercation after Jamal Crawford's foul sent Boston's Ray Allen to the floor in the third quarter. Paul Pierce quickly rushed to Allen's defense and had his hand around Crawford's throat. Later, Robinson and Tony Allen exchanged shoves and were both handed technical fouls."

Good for them

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10/23/2007  8:34 AM
"When the appeal is over, anything can happen with Thomas if the Knicks begin the season poorly. Could the Knicks actually look to void Thomas' contract because of misconduct? Not if they play like last night."

- Berman
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