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JohnWallace44
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10/20/2007  1:31 AM
Dear Isiah,
I've supported you for so long. Through the crazy trades and draft picks when nobody believed in you, I looked at the potential. Ol' buddy, ol' pal, it doesn't look so good anymore.

You've done what you promised, sort of... You built a team chock full of talented players. Now what? You have to be starting to realize that you won't be able to get them to mesh together. They look bad in the preseason. Not even so much bad, as unprofessional. When you go to the YMCA, sometimes you see a bunch of young studs play the old dudes that wear short shorts, goggles and headbands and the old dudes school the young studs. Watching the Knicks is like watching that game every night. Everyone thinks they're a star, there's no plan, there are too many careless plays, its just ugly basketball.

The fact that we have 20, yes 20 players on the roster is horrific. And its horrific because most of them should be on the roster, but the ones who should be cut won't be cut.

A few things are clear to any Knicks fan out there at this point
- Fred Jones has no role on a young, building team and should be cut or traded now
- Marty Collins should be playing more than half of the game at the point now
- Crawford is, at best a 4th quarter comeback specialist who should ONLY be used in that role
- Jeffries, not Nichols is the wing player that should be deported to Europe to refine his game
- If Rose is going to spend the whole season on the bench coaching...he should be a coach, not a player taking a roster spot
- Jerome James has been talking to Carl Pavano
- If Nate can be used in a specific 5 minute spurt, change tempo role he can be "Nate the Great" for us, don't use him for 15 minutes at a time, the other team will match up eventually
- Curry and Randolph can play on the floor at the same time, but you have to have specific players on the floor with them to make that work, i.e. Chandler, Q, Marty so that they are not doubled and their defense isn't a massive problem
- Lee is a power forward, don't let him shoot his way to being an inefficient player

All these things are obvious to the fans, so don't pretend you're fooling us anymore. The time for talk with this team is over. You have about 3 rosters worth of players. I could make 3 mediocre teams from this roster. You can make one good team, but all the extra crap has to get cut off.

You're doing the players with skill and determination on this roster a disservice by playing or even keeping the guys around who do not have it.

Cut James, cut Jeffries, cut Rose, cut Jones, send Jordan to play in Europe, and let's go do something this season.

Start Marty, Q, Chandler, Zach and Curry, that team would have mismatches all over the damn place in our favor. Bring a bench crew of Steph, Lee and Balkman. Bring Nate in as a spark and only in that role. In the 4th, if you're down, you have Craw and Nichols and if they're having "ON" nights, you're going to steal some games.

Do all that and you would have an unhappy bunch... until they actually started winning games.

Why would we not do exactly this Isiah? Are we going to trade for another all-star? For one, I don't see it happening, for two, I don't know if they would fit in, and for three, how many games do we lose trying to keep a 15 man rotation going?

This crap doesn't make sense any more Isiah. I've been with you, but I'm the last one jumping off the band wagon. Do something to make sense of your roster now. The talent is there. Get the junk out of the way so that the talent can be allowed to go out and save your job.

Peace, I'm out, word to your mother...

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/20/2007  1:44 AM
Great post. I agree with everything you said. Nice job nailing it.
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10/20/2007  1:51 AM
Nice. I got another convert for my side.
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JohnWallace44
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10/20/2007  3:02 AM
yeah man, its such a mixed bag with this dude.

What do you say about a guy who's brought in 20 new players, 10 of which are great pick-ups and the other 10 of which are terrible and you make you throw up a little bit in your mouth when you see them in a Knicks uni?

Its just a waste to watch the 20 man team struggle when you know there is a group within all the shiet that could actually be good.

Its going to take some man sized cajones to make the moves needed this year instead of waiting through another crappy season.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/20/2007  4:16 AM
Great post, J-Dubs. Isiah the GM has shown us promise but Isiah the coach just is what is currently worrying me most. I didn't get to see the Boston game and obviously I'm glad I didn't but I caught the Jersey game and I was sickened. I saw a team that showed zero heart. I so badly wanted and expected the guys to come out with a chip on their shoulders, playing with passion, fire and pride but I saw none of that and that's what really disappointed me most.

Things better change and change fast, or Isles might have one more convert to the dark side. I'm still a believer and will do so until proved otherwise, because just like my NY Giants after the first two games, sometimes you have to give things a chance. There are new pieces that have to mesh and it's not gonna happen over night. I just hope things turn around before it's too late. I want to see a different attitude starting with the next preseason game. I don't care if we win or lose, I just want to see passion. PLEASE.

If the Knicks start this season anywhere near 2-7 or 4-11, I will be finished. I really do still believe in many of our players, for now and for the future, but it's Isiah the coach where my biggest worries lie. Soon enough we'll see how things work out.
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10/20/2007  11:11 AM
Good post. That really is the problem. There clearly are players on this team, but IT wastes too many minutes on guys like Jeffries and Nate. Collins can run the point as well as Marbury and is a better defender than either Marbury or Nate. Let him be the backup PG. The fact that Jeffries starts and gets more minutes than Balkman is criminal.
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10/20/2007  11:24 AM
If I was another almost any team out there, I'd be calling Isiah to try to steal a couple of the guys off of this roster for junk.

It would be great if that would happen, but you get the feeling that trade isn't coming in the last couple of weeks before the season starts.

Some kind of Jeffries/Morris for J Howard would be nice, but I don't even think Isiah is trying to make trades for some reason. You'd normally hear tons of rumor mill spin-off.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/20/2007  11:58 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

If I was another almost any team out there, I'd be calling Isiah to try to steal a couple of the guys off of this roster for junk.

It would be great if that would happen, but you get the feeling that trade isn't coming in the last couple of weeks before the season starts.

Some kind of Jeffries/Morris for J Howard would be nice, but I don't even think Isiah is trying to make trades for some reason. You'd normally hear tons of rumor mill spin-off.

Isiah is strong character but not a superhuman.
I don’t think he has much left in the tank after all stuff he went through.
It it is not getting easy. It is hard to be "All Alone". And it is useless too.



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10/20/2007  12:43 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

If I was another almost any team out there, I'd be calling Isiah to try to steal a couple of the guys off of this roster for junk.

It would be great if that would happen, but you get the feeling that trade isn't coming in the last couple of weeks before the season starts.

Some kind of Jeffries/Morris for J Howard would be nice, but I don't even think Isiah is trying to make trades for some reason. You'd normally hear tons of rumor mill spin-off.

We need to do something to consolidate the talent. To lose Nichols for nothing b/c we don't have a spot is poor planning. IT needs to lose his man-crush for Fred Jones and cut him. Nichols and Chandler have the potential to be solid two-way players. Why lose Nichols for a guy who is clearly only capable of providing defense.

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10/20/2007  1:54 PM
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

If I was another almost any team out there, I'd be calling Isiah to try to steal a couple of the guys off of this roster for junk.

It would be great if that would happen, but you get the feeling that trade isn't coming in the last couple of weeks before the season starts.

Some kind of Jeffries/Morris for J Howard would be nice, but I don't even think Isiah is trying to make trades for some reason. You'd normally hear tons of rumor mill spin-off.

We need to do something to consolidate the talent. To lose Nichols for nothing b/c we don't have a spot is poor planning. IT needs to lose his man-crush for Fred Jones and cut him. Nichols and Chandler have the potential to be solid two-way players. Why lose Nichols for a guy who is clearly only capable of providing defense.

And its not like Fred Jones would get signed if we released him.

When we release Dnic- I can see San Antonio or Dallas signing him & stashing him in the nbdl.
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10/20/2007  1:56 PM
I don't think you can do that can you? If the Spurs could put him in the NBDL then we would have done that already.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
JohnWallace44
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10/20/2007  6:46 PM
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

If I was another almost any team out there, I'd be calling Isiah to try to steal a couple of the guys off of this roster for junk.

It would be great if that would happen, but you get the feeling that trade isn't coming in the last couple of weeks before the season starts.

Some kind of Jeffries/Morris for J Howard would be nice, but I don't even think Isiah is trying to make trades for some reason. You'd normally hear tons of rumor mill spin-off.

We need to do something to consolidate the talent. To lose Nichols for nothing b/c we don't have a spot is poor planning. IT needs to lose his man-crush for Fred Jones and cut him. Nichols and Chandler have the potential to be solid two-way players. Why lose Nichols for a guy who is clearly only capable of providing defense.

I can't recall too many big trades going down during the preseason, so its probably a long shot. How many players do we need to get rid of now to keep Nichols? 3?
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/20/2007  7:01 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

This crap doesn't make sense any more Isiah. I've been with you, but I'm the last one jumping off the band wagon. Do something to make sense of your roster now. The talent is there. Get the junk out of the way so that the talent can be allowed to go out and save your job.

It never' made sense! No matter what combo of players he puts out there, it will never work. There is no chemistry here. Hasn't been any kind of chemistry in the past six or seven years. I didn't even mention injury prone. There is nothing to root for. It's the 'bad news bears' of NY. I have to laugh, because some people keep using the word 'talent'. We were doomed from the very beginning. James Dolan took over. Major mistake #1. He hired Layden & then Isiah. Mistakes #2 & #3. Isiah brings in suckbury. Major mistake #4. Isiah gets Dolan sued and NY throurouly embarrassed. Mistake #5. Dolan tried to have Isiah's back in the Anucha case. Mistake #6. Those are just some of the major mistakes and it virtually had nothing to do with basketball. And the rooks simply aren't going to be developed properly because the big contract players have to be given more obligation. You can't sit big ass Jerome or suckbury on the bench. They make' too damn much money. Luckily, Jerome is hurt, so he won't be taking up any playing time space. This is a major problem on this team and why we can't give the younger players more time. So it's bad chemistry. You can't sit 20 million dollar ******* suckbury too long. He has to earn his money, if you can call it that. Maybe this is why our young cats are getting hurt. No enough consistent play. Isiah painted our roster into a dark corner. Forget about Lee, Balkman, Collins, Chandler, Nichols getting enough playing time.
I'll never trust this' team again.
JohnWallace44
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10/20/2007  11:16 PM
James never palyed at all in the first place. You can sit/cut the guys you don't need out there to win. It certainly would take some courage though. That's kind of what I'm asking for in this post.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/20/2007  11:45 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

If I was another almost any team out there, I'd be calling Isiah to try to steal a couple of the guys off of this roster for junk.

It would be great if that would happen, but you get the feeling that trade isn't coming in the last couple of weeks before the season starts.

Some kind of Jeffries/Morris for J Howard would be nice, but I don't even think Isiah is trying to make trades for some reason. You'd normally hear tons of rumor mill spin-off.

We need to do something to consolidate the talent. To lose Nichols for nothing b/c we don't have a spot is poor planning. IT needs to lose his man-crush for Fred Jones and cut him. Nichols and Chandler have the potential to be solid two-way players. Why lose Nichols for a guy who is clearly only capable of providing defense.

I can't recall too many big trades going down during the preseason, so its probably a long shot. How many players do we need to get rid of now to keep Nichols? 3?

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10/22/2007  11:19 PM
Nothing to root for

4949 - No matter what combo of players he puts out there, it will never work. There is no chemistry here. Hasn't been any kind of chemistry in the past six or seven years. I didn't even mention injury prone. There is nothing to root for.

Perhaps all this edition of Knicks needs is a bit of patience/

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10/22/2007  11:24 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

I don't think you can do that can you? If the Spurs could put him in the NBDL then we would have done that already.

Your players in the NBDL still count against your roster limit.
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