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King1
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10/17/2007  11:31 PM
The first 6 minutes of the game you had Zach roaming the perimeter setting screens and Curry inside. Zach gets no shots and then he gets 12 in the last 21 minutes. We dont need a offensively talented guy like Zach roaming the perimeter when Curry is in the game. Did the Knicks run one play tonight? All the offense consists of is each person going one on one. No chemistry on this team, this is a mess.
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10/17/2007  11:36 PM
So you think better Zack will be inside and Eddy will roam the perimeter?
Eddy then can go straight to Starbucks to get some cookies...


[Edited by - arkrud on 10-17-2007 11:36 PM]
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10/17/2007  11:39 PM
Lee and Randolph together probably would work better than Curry and Randolph. I'd be all for trading curry in a package for a real 2 or 3... curry crawford balkman and nate for kobe would be perfect for us. curry and JJ2 for artest and hawes would be another good trade for us IMO
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10/17/2007  11:43 PM
Posted by King1:

The first 6 minutes of the game you had Zach roaming the perimeter setting screens and Curry inside. Zach gets no shots and then he gets 12 in the last 21 minutes. We dont need a offensively talented guy like Zach roaming the perimeter when Curry is in the game. Did the Knicks run one play tonight? All the offense consists of is each person going one on one. No chemistry on this team, this is a mess.


You're not a fan of Isiah's "Quick" offense?
Don't you know it's a combination of The Traingle, John Wooden's high-post shuffle, and Bobby Knight's passing game? It's pure genius, because Isiah says so, and it promises to do for Steph and Craw what it did for Double Trouble (Stevie Franchise and Franchisekillerbury), it can do for Zach what it did for Frye, and it should work just as well for this year's team as it did for last's.
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10/17/2007  11:47 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by King1:

The first 6 minutes of the game you had Zach roaming the perimeter setting screens and Curry inside. Zach gets no shots and then he gets 12 in the last 21 minutes. We dont need a offensively talented guy like Zach roaming the perimeter when Curry is in the game. Did the Knicks run one play tonight? All the offense consists of is each person going one on one. No chemistry on this team, this is a mess.


You're not a fan of Isiah's "Quick" offense?
Don't you know it's a combination of The Traingle, John Wooden's high-post shuffle, and Bobby Knight's passing game? It's pure genius, because Isiah says so, and it promises to do for Steph and Craw what it did for Double Trouble (Stevie Franchise and Franchisekillerbury), it can do for Zach what it did for Frye, and it should work just as well for this year's team as it did for last's.

So Zack will brake the leg, start shooting 20-footers, and will get traded to Portland?
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10/17/2007  11:48 PM
I don't think the first 6 minutes, after both players have missed time, in a meaningless game are dispositive of anything.
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10/18/2007  12:03 AM
Posted by PhilinLA:

I don't think the first 6 minutes, after both players have missed time, in a meaningless game are dispositive of anything.

You are right. It was nothing to show.

P. Pierce 25 7-8 3-4 5-8 0 6 5 1 1 2 1 22
Q. Richardson 22 1-7 1-3 0-0 2 3 1 0 1 1 3 3

K. Garnett 28 6-15 0-0 1-2 0 8 3 2 0 2 2 13
Z. Randolph 27 3-12 0-1 3-4 3 12 0 4 0 0 1 9

K. Perkins 20 2-2 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 3 2 1 5 4
E. Curry 16 2-6 0-0 3-6 2 2 0 0 0 0 3 7

R. Allen 27 6-8 1-2 1-1 0 2 1 2 0 0 0 14
J. Crawford 27 0-8 0-2 2-2 0 1 3 1 1 0 0 2

R. Rondo 22 1-2 0-0 3-4 0 4 4 4 2 0 3 5
S. Marbury 24 4-10 1-2 0-0 1 3 2 1 1 0 0 9

Actually Perkins and Eddy are close... and marbs and Rondo too...
They can work at their game and became even better... that Perkins and Rondo.
It is only preseason..








[Edited by - arkrud on 10-18-2007 12:03 AM]
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10/18/2007  1:05 AM
Man....some of you are panicking. They just looked bad tonight in game that meant nothing. They played well enough in their first 2 games. The Knicks will be fine and yes they do have kinks to work out. This is the 3rd game in 11 days, spaced well apart.
They were just out of sync.
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10/18/2007  1:07 AM
Posted by PhilinLA:

I don't think the first 6 minutes, after both players have missed time, in a meaningless game are dispositive of anything.

if you're an established winning team, these games may be meaningless.

but for the knicks, these games are meaningful even if the w/l result does not.
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10/18/2007  1:12 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by PhilinLA:

I don't think the first 6 minutes, after both players have missed time, in a meaningless game are dispositive of anything.

if you're an established winning team, these games may be meaningless.


but for the knicks, these games are meaningful even if the w/l result does not.


dj that's the point that gets lost.


Forget donning a Knicks uniform with pride, if you care anything about the game itself you don't let yourself get blown out by 40pts against a team that was giving you about 80-90% effort. I mean what if the Celtics went all out at 110%?
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10/18/2007  4:22 AM
Posted by PhilinLA:

I don't think the first 6 minutes, after both players have missed time, in a meaningless game are dispositive of anything.

Exactly. These two guys had maybe one or two practices together. How can anyone expect them to be in synch.
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10/18/2007  6:45 AM


They sucked as a team. Forget tryiing to isolate every positive of Lee as some ideal.

Lee sucked. Chandler had a better game.
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10/18/2007  8:49 AM
I don't quite understand how you evaluate two players based on one game. Some one explain that to me please.
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10/18/2007  9:06 AM
The offense is not something to worry about. I think it will pretty much resemble what it looked like last year. One on one play, with some improvement because Zach is better than Frye. That will not be our problem. The D last night was so horrendous that I can't imagine tht they care a whole lot about it.
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10/18/2007  9:09 AM
Posted by misterearl:



They sucked as a team. Forget tryiing to isolate every positive of Lee as some ideal.

Lee sucked. Chandler had a better game.

Who the hell said anything about Lee?

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10/18/2007  9:17 AM
Posted by Panos:
Posted by misterearl:



They sucked as a team. Forget tryiing to isolate every positive of Lee as some ideal.

Lee sucked. Chandler had a better game.

Who the hell said anything about Lee?

dang, I got my threads crossed. But just for the record:

Originally posted by Ira:

"Haters 1 - Lovers 0. We were horrible last night. No one could hit anything. As a team, we shot 26%! The only player who had a good all around game was Lee."

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10/18/2007  9:25 AM

For a team with low self esteem winning in preseason is massive.

They need to feel success at anytime they can. It build momentum and positive synergy.

DJ is right, the spurs don't need to panic when they lose as they know they are good and could be experimenting and working out players.

The knicks are in a differnt boat, they need this, they need to win.
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10/18/2007  9:29 AM
Eddy Curry is not a good player, i don't know why people don't realize this, he is not a hard worker he commits more to's than stls, blks, and assists. Thats the most pathetic stat in the game. He is like a specialty reliver in baseball.

The Knicks traded two lottery picks for the wrong bull when chandler was had for an expiring deal. That is the guy this team really needs and I would give up eddy to get him especially if zach is going to be on this team......

Dwight Howard looked terrific last night and i don't think he lets orlando not make the playoffs so its going to be a real fight to back in. Especially when this team is made up of losers that don't care. You don't get beat by 40pts if you care plain and simple. They give up too easily and thats isiahs fault, he brought in a lot of me first talent, we have four guys starting that are all made up in a similiar fashion, so i don't know why so many people were so optimistic. It's one game yes but the larger problem is the defense not the offense.
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10/18/2007  10:06 AM
Posted by Nalod:


For a team with low self esteem winning in preseason is massive.

They need to feel success at anytime they can. It build momentum and positive synergy.

DJ is right, the spurs don't need to panic when they lose as they know they are good and could be experimenting and working out players.

The knicks are in a differnt boat, they need this, they need to win.

Low self esteem?
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10/18/2007  10:12 AM
It's one game. A preseason game, which many said didn't mean squat, whether you win or lose, but now somehow it's an indictment of Isiah and the players, cuz they got blown out. If some of us want to basically give up on the team already and are convinced this team has no chance, then they can use this as evidence to prove to themselves that it's true. If we won the game by a lot would that change anything really? Would those same doubters change their opinion and say that we have a better chance to do well this year?

I get all kinds of crap from guys who call me a hypocrit and yet I see the same things from them in cases like this, that they accuse me of doing. Either these preseason games matter to you or they don't, but don't use the losses to bolster your arguments just cuz you already dislike the team. Just as you wouldn't want anyone to use any wins to try and draw some conclusion that the team is great.
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