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10/14/2007  2:33 PM
Sorry Martin & Andrew, but this is big news!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142007/news/nationalnews/heir_time_for_yankees.htm

And they're talking about bringing everyone back.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/14/2007  2:54 PM
This is huge. I hope everyone does come back. The Yankees showed a lot of heart with how they turned last season around and I wouldn't make gigantic changes based on any 3 games. (The 3 Ls to Cleveland.)

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 10-14-2007 3:08 PM]
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10/14/2007  3:13 PM
This is huge. It's still sinking in. I thought George would last until he died. I hope the two sons are more emotionally stable than George and just let Cashman continue to build the farm system. I hope they don't become short-sighted and start doing things to bring in instant cash at the expense of long-term success like Dolan does.
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10/14/2007  3:26 PM
This is good news for Yankee fans. The aging father giving way to his seemingly more coherent sons. Now if only we can get the less coherent son to give the Knicks back to his father.
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10/14/2007  4:40 PM
Posted by 4949:

Sorry Martin & Andrew, but this is big news!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142007/news/nationalnews/heir_time_for_yankees.htm

And they're talking about bringing everyone back.

They don't mention anywhere in that article about bringing everyone back... here's the quote you're referring to:
Last month, Hal Steinbrenner was named chairman of the board of Yankee Global Enterprises. Hank expects to take on a new title - one that won't be decided until a board vote this week, when the team's brain trust gathers to sort out issues such as whether to bring back manager Joe Torre.

"We'll be bringing everyone together . . . to discuss those things. For the first couple of meetings, it will just be me, Hal, my dad and the usual cast," Hank said.

that's referring to the Yankees' braintrust, not the players or the manager... those issues are still undecided.
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10/14/2007  7:59 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by 4949:

Sorry Martin & Andrew, but this is big news!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142007/news/nationalnews/heir_time_for_yankees.htm

And they're talking about bringing everyone back.

They don't mention anywhere in that article about bringing everyone back... here's the quote you're referring to:
Last month, Hal Steinbrenner was named chairman of the board of Yankee Global Enterprises. Hank expects to take on a new title - one that won't be decided until a board vote this week, when the team's brain trust gathers to sort out issues such as whether to bring back manager Joe Torre.

"We'll be bringing everyone together . . . to discuss those things. For the first couple of meetings, it will just be me, Hal, my dad and the usual cast," Hank said.

that's referring to the Yankees' braintrust, not the players or the manager... those issues are still undecided.

Na, sorry, I saw another article somewhere, I shouldv'e posted it also. I'll try to find it.
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10/14/2007  8:04 PM
Okay, they per the Yankees didn't exactly say, but this is what I saw momentarily. I got all excited and wanted to post it before anyone else did. You may or may not' like who wrote it, but it's an interesting concept. Take a look.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142007/sports/yankees/yanks_should_say_cmon_back.htm?page=0
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10/14/2007  8:46 PM
that's just Joel Sherman's take on what he thinks the Yankees should do... no one knows what the Yankees' braintrust plans to do yet because they haven't even met to discuss it... i'm sure we'll be hearing things over the coming week as to what their plans are concerning Torre & the pending FA's.
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10/14/2007  8:53 PM
Did anyone else find it troubling that Hank Steinbrenner is talking like his dad used to? He's going to insist on Joba being a starter next year? I guess all those years breeding horses has given him more insight into running a baseball team than one could imagine. And Hal Steinbrenner sounds like a total wuss.

I really hope they just stay in the background and let their GM handle the baseball decisions.
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10/14/2007  8:55 PM
they should give the reigns over to Stick Michael & allow him to shape the franchise the same way he did in the early 90's to build that dynasty.
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10/14/2007  8:57 PM
Posted by TMS:

they should give the reigns over to Stick Michael & allow him to shape the franchise the same way he did in the early 90's to build that dynasty.

I thought it was Bob who built that dynasty?
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10/14/2007  8:59 PM
Bob Watson was the GM but it was Stick Michael who was the brain behind the building of the franchise, beginning w/convincing George not to trade away Bernie Williams early in his career.
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10/14/2007  8:59 PM
Posted by TMS:

they should give the reigns over to Stick Michael & allow him to shape the franchise the same way he did in the early 90's to build that dynasty.

I think Cashman is doing exactly what Stick did and would do. Rebuilding the farm system, giving young players chances at the major league level and shying away from the quick fix big money trades and free agent signings.
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10/14/2007  9:02 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

they should give the reigns over to Stick Michael & allow him to shape the franchise the same way he did in the early 90's to build that dynasty.

I think Cashman is doing exactly what Stick did and would do. Rebuilding the farm system, giving young players chances at the major league level and shying away from the quick fix big money trades and free agent signings.

in terms of rebuilding the farm system & holding onto his top prospects over the past year, i agree w/u... but in terms of FA signings & trades, i have a hard time imagining Stick Michael acquiring busts like Kei Igawa, Carl Pavano, Steve Karsay, Hideki Irabu, Kyle Farnsworth, Mike Mussina pt. 2, Jeff Weaver, Javy Vazquez, etc. I'm sure Stick had his share of bad acquisitions, but man, that's a whole boatload of cabbage for the crap that Cash got in return.

[Edited by - TMS on 10-14-2007 9:04 PM]
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10/14/2007  9:06 PM
Posted by TMS:

Bob Watson was the GM but it was Stick Michael who was the brain behind the building of the franchise, beginning w/convincing George not to trade away Bernie Williams early in his career.

Hmm, interesting. I remember George putting his arm around Watson's shoulder's and crediting him with building the team, right after they won the first world series. bush has his channey and Bob had his Stick. Behind every great man, there's a great man.
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10/14/2007  9:09 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

they should give the reigns over to Stick Michael & allow him to shape the franchise the same way he did in the early 90's to build that dynasty.

I think Cashman is doing exactly what Stick did and would do. Rebuilding the farm system, giving young players chances at the major league level and shying away from the quick fix big money trades and free agent signings.

That is the greatest ingrediant to any successful Yankee team. Cashman is doing a great job! Keep the farm coming. The 1996 to 2000 core was made of Yankee farm hands and where all very instrumental in helping the Yankees to four championships. Keep it coming.
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10/14/2007  9:10 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

they should give the reigns over to Stick Michael & allow him to shape the franchise the same way he did in the early 90's to build that dynasty.

I think Cashman is doing exactly what Stick did and would do. Rebuilding the farm system, giving young players chances at the major league level and shying away from the quick fix big money trades and free agent signings.

in terms of rebuilding the farm system & holding onto his top prospects over the past year, i agree w/u... but in terms of FA signings & trades, i have a hard time imagining Stick Michael acquiring busts like Kei Igawa, Carl Pavano, Steve Karsay, Hideki Irabu, Kyle Farnsworth, Mike Mussina pt. 2, Jeff Weaver, Javy Vazquez, etc. I'm sure Stick had his share of bad acquisitions, but man, that's a whole boatload of cabbage for the crap that Cash got in return.

[Edited by - TMS on 10-14-2007 9:04 PM]

Sort of the Isiah of the Yankees huh?
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10/14/2007  9:13 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TMS:

they should give the reigns over to Stick Michael & allow him to shape the franchise the same way he did in the early 90's to build that dynasty.

I think Cashman is doing exactly what Stick did and would do. Rebuilding the farm system, giving young players chances at the major league level and shying away from the quick fix big money trades and free agent signings.

in terms of rebuilding the farm system & holding onto his top prospects over the past year, i agree w/u... but in terms of FA signings & trades, i have a hard time imagining Stick Michael acquiring busts like Kei Igawa, Carl Pavano, Steve Karsay, Hideki Irabu, Kyle Farnsworth, Mike Mussina pt. 2, Jeff Weaver, Javy Vazquez, etc. I'm sure Stick had his share of bad acquisitions, but man, that's a whole boatload of cabbage for the crap that Cash got in return.

[Edited by - TMS on 10-14-2007 9:04 PM]

I'm just talking about the last 2 years when Cashman has been given full control over baseball operations. I agree Igawa was a horrible signing but it's not going to prevent them from doing anything. It's not like he's blocking a position. Farnsworth is God awful and needs to be traded. He pitched better at the end of the season and has value so I expect him to be gone. I don't mind Moose for another year as our 4th starter. He'll be good for the kids.
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10/14/2007  9:20 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by TMS:

Bob Watson was the GM but it was Stick Michael who was the brain behind the building of the franchise, beginning w/convincing George not to trade away Bernie Williams early in his career.

Hmm, interesting. I remember George putting his arm around Watson's shoulder's and crediting him with building the team, right after they won the first world series. bush has his channey and Bob had his Stick. Behind every great man, there's a great man.

Stick was the GM from 1990-1995 when Bob Watson took over. Stick was the one who built up the farm system by drafting Mariano, Jeter, Pettitte, Posada, gave Bernie a chance by trading away idiots like Mel Hall, and traded for O'Neill.
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10/14/2007  9:22 PM
Yes' that's what it was! Thanks, now I remember. Good for Stick! I forgot all about the 'Stick Man'.
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