Posted by arkrud:

Posted by VDesai:

I've thought we were always deep in the Isiah era and should've been playing a deeper roster. We've got some guys on the bench who can press and trap. Not saying that pressing and trapping is gonna lead our way to the title, but if we can change the pace of the game that will give us one advantage over all the other teams in the league and could be enough to get us enough wins to get to the playoffs. When the Suns started running and gunning again it took the league by surprise to some degree and they had a dominant regular season. When you have 12 guys who all can play why not take advantage of that in some way?

W/ regards to this, I think we never tried it b/c Marbury was a bad fit. Now with Randolph and Curry we're gonna play an even slower paced game.

Exactly.
And with slower pace we do not need to play more that 9 players.
There is a lot of overhead on this poster.
But hey... IT was always chaotic person. He is one of the guys who can see the peaces but never can see the whole.
But it is OK. Not all people are good for this kind of job.

Say What?

arkrud - I'm assuming you meant there is a lot of "overhead" on the roster. Can you please help me understand what that means?

"..He is one of the guys who can see the peaces but never can see the whole."

I agree with Martin that the Knicks have some pieces to improve the depth at key positions. The two forward slots have changed dramatically, while the image of Malik Rose shooting jumpers is less of a nightmare than last season.

and we all know the games aren't played on paper

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by arkrud:

Redundant players:
Eddy-Zack
Lee - Malik – (Malik is useless)
Chan-Balk
Q-JJ2 (actually JJ2 is useless)
JJ1 - Morris (actually JJ1 is useless)
Craf-Nate-Nick-Jones-H20? (Is it too much?)
Steph - Mardy - JJ3 (Steph is already useless too)

We have 2 teams in one with both missing defense, shot blocking, and shooting.
This is just eclectic conglomerate of "whatever comes in Isiah way" guys

Whatever comes in Isiah's way? There's not much wrong with this roster. We also have to wait and see how his final cuts shake out and what his rotation will be.

Arkrud and anyone else who chooses to bash the team's makeup. How many NBA teams are perfectly built in that they have a balanced roster in a traditional sense?
Obviously it's not easy to put together a roster that is balanced. We have one that is as close to that as you can expect at this point. We've got C, PF and SF covered well for now and into the future.
We've got SG covered also. Now we don't have pure PG's but instead combo guards, so that's really the only thing that we don't have from a prototypical roster standpoint.

I think that too often people throw mud at this roster and it's really not warranted. This isn't a bad team, they've just played poorly. That can change with hard work and player development. You can choose to assume that nothing is changing with this team, but that's not true. We bottomed out in 2005. We made some forward progress in 2006 and now we can take another big step in 2007.
Every team has some kind of flaw, we just have to get better at limiting ours.

Posted by playa2:

I will almost guarantee you if guys are not getting it done but starting, there will be griping on the bench probaly displayed in the media.

When you have this much talent on your roster it's always gonna be tough on a coach on who to play , especially if you aren't winninng consistently.

I hope the knicks come out blazing and learn to play smart heady tough basketball right out of the gate.

If not the media and knick haters will eat them and Isiah alive.

[Edited by - playa2 on 10-10-2007 13:32]