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10/7/2007  12:36 PM
Browne Sanders' lawyer, Kevin Mintzer, said yesterday that the entire tape was seven hours and the jury heard key excerpts. "There was no objection made to the clip by his many, many lawyers,"Mintzer said.

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10/7/2007  12:54 PM
What? How about some context?
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10/7/2007  12:59 PM
Posted by Andrew:

What? How about some context?

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This is from the NY POST
Thomas now insists the videotape played in court was misleading. "It was a seven-hour deposition. They played parts of a discussion that was edited and spliced together."

Lawyers for Browne Sanders, with the judge's approval, played excerpts from Thomas' taped deposition in the case, prompting furious backpedaling from Thomas when he took the stand.

"I am highly offended by any male referring to any female as a bitch, and I said that in my deposition," Thomas said on the stand.

Thomas now claims that in the full deposition - which has never been furnished to reporters - he explained his feelings that it is more offensive for a white man to call a black woman "bitch" because of the racial overtones.
Papabear Says I'm not trying to start anything but I think that the full video should be seen and if Ms Browns Lawyers did in fact splice the tapes in thier favor the appeals court will throw this cass out and rule for a new trial.

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Papabear, of course the lawyers are not going to play the full version of the disposition. Their job is to play the parts that are advantagous to their case. MSGs lawyers job is to either object (which I don't know if they did) or to request that the full version be played. It seems they did neither.

I don't think the appeals court has grounds to overturn.
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Isiah Thomas calls Al Sharpton, says tape was doctored

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BY KATHLEEN LUCADAMO and FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Sunday, October 7th 2007, 4:00 AM


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As the Rev. Al Sharpton called for a Knicks boycott yesterday, the team's coach called him and denied insulting black women.

Isiah Thomas claimed lawyers doctored a tape of him saying it was worse for a white man to call a black woman a bitch than for a black man.

He offered to give Sharpton tapes proving his case.

"He was very passionate, very emotional," Sharpton said yesterday. "He said the tape of his deposition had been spliced."

"We gave him the facts," Thomas told the Daily News yesterday. "Now that he has the facts, he can make a much more informed decision. ... It was a seven-hour deposition and they played parts of a discussion that was edited and spliced together."

A jury ruled Tuesday that Thomas sexually harassed former Knicks marketing executive Anucha Browne Sanders, 44, by repeatedly calling her a "bitch" and a "ho," and that Madison Square Garden boss James Dolan retaliated against her.

The jury awarded Browne Sanders $11.6 million. (See Mike Lupica's column on Pages 6-7)

A taped deposition played at the trial clearly showed Thomas made the distinction between white men and black men using the insult.

On the tape, he said it was unacceptable if a white man did it, but not as bad if a black man used the term. "I'm sorry to say, I do make a distinction," Thomas said on the tape.

Sharpton said he wasn't sure he was buying the coach's explanation, but "I give him the benefit of the doubt."

Sharpton said he will speak further with Thomas, but will not call off the boycott if he thinks an apology is still needed.

Browne Sanders' lawyer, Kevin Mintzer, said yesterday that the entire tape was seven hours and the jury heard key excerpts. "There was no objection made to the clip by his many, many lawyers,"Mintzer said.

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10/7/2007  1:42 PM
Posted by Andrew:

Papabear, of course the lawyers are not going to play the full version of the disposition. Their job is to play the parts that are advantagous to their case. MSGs lawyers job is to either object (which I don't know if they did) or to request that the full version be played. It seems they did neither.

I don't think the appeals court has grounds to overturn.

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Andrew maybe you are right or maybe you are wrong I really don't know, but wouldn't you want the truth to come out? Hey I'm ready for some basketball and let the lawyers do thier thing. Hey they presented a one hour tape showing on Zeke and they taped almost 8 hours. What was on the 7 hours and as far as this case being overturned, the judge should have viewed the 8 hour of the tape before making a decision to have it shown in court. The judge did not view the whole tape, so if the lawyer for ms Brown did doctor up the tapes it will play a part in the case being thrown out along with other things.
Hey all I want to see is this whole thing being fair for everyone. I have a new look on these things. I am a Knick fan and I Love the Knicks weather they win or loose but even I will put up with so much loosing. This is Zekes final chance to make it happen.
I hope one day all of us will be going crazy with joy because our Knicks are playing like champs.

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10/7/2007  3:07 PM
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by Andrew:

Papabear, of course the lawyers are not going to play the full version of the disposition. Their job is to play the parts that are advantagous to their case. MSGs lawyers job is to either object (which I don't know if they did) or to request that the full version be played. It seems they did neither.

I don't think the appeals court has grounds to overturn.

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Hey all I want to see is this whole thing being fair for everyone. I have a new look on these things. I am a Knick fan and I Love the Knicks weather they win or loose but even I will put up with so much loosing. This is Zekes final chance to make it happen.
I hope one day all of us will be going crazy with joy because our Knicks are playing like champs.

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Bear, that last part was very fair. You, my friend, are inching your way towards the hater camp.

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10/7/2007  3:24 PM
Posted by Papabear:
Posted by Andrew:

Papabear, of course the lawyers are not going to play the full version of the disposition. Their job is to play the parts that are advantagous to their case. MSGs lawyers job is to either object (which I don't know if they did) or to request that the full version be played. It seems they did neither.

I don't think the appeals court has grounds to overturn.

Papabear Says

Andrew maybe you are right or maybe you are wrong I really don't know, but wouldn't you want the truth to come out? Hey I'm ready for some basketball and let the lawyers do thier thing. Hey they presented a one hour tape showing on Zeke and they taped almost 8 hours. What was on the 7 hours and as far as this case being overturned, the judge should have viewed the 8 hour of the tape before making a decision to have it shown in court. The judge did not view the whole tape, so if the lawyer for ms Brown did doctor up the tapes it will play a part in the case being thrown out along with other things.
Hey all I want to see is this whole thing being fair for everyone. I have a new look on these things. I am a Knick fan and I Love the Knicks weather they win or loose but even I will put up with so much loosing. This is Zekes final chance to make it happen.
I hope one day all of us will be going crazy with joy because our Knicks are playing like champs.

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Do you really think that the judge is going to allow the plaintiff's side to splice deposed testimony and play it for a jury?

Do you honestly believe that Isiah's lawyers would allow that to happen?
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10/7/2007  3:28 PM
I dont know how with all of Dolans millions but it sounded to me like ABS had much better lawyers than Dolan.
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10/7/2007  3:32 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I dont know how with all of Dolans millions but it sounded to me like ABS had much better lawyers than Dolan.

No she did not. She had the truth on her side.
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I dont know how with all of Dolans millions but it sounded to me like ABS had much better lawyers than Dolan.

No she did not. She had the truth on her side.

And you know she was being 100% truthful how? Were you there?

Even if Isiah said you know what I called her a Bit*h and I hugged her once that in now way would mean she should be awarded 11.6 million.

I have little doubt that ABS has used bad language as well. She called Clarence Weatherspoon nasty names. Maybe Spoon should now sue her.
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Posted by majorleads:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I dont know how with all of Dolans millions but it sounded to me like ABS had much better lawyers than Dolan.

No she did not. She had the truth on her side.


How do you know she had the truth on her side?
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Posted by majorleads:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I dont know how with all of Dolans millions but it sounded to me like ABS had much better lawyers than Dolan.

No she did not. She had the truth on her side.


How do you know she had the truth on her side?

The verdict.

And the judge saying that it was a fair and justifiable verdict.
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Posted by islesfan:
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by majorleads:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

I dont know how with all of Dolans millions but it sounded to me like ABS had much better lawyers than Dolan.

No she did not. She had the truth on her side.


How do you know she had the truth on her side?

The verdict.

And the judge saying that it was a fair and justifiable verdict.

The Judge wasnt there. If Juries and Judges were always right than innocent people would have never been put to death via the electric chair.

As far as the truth goes what did Isiah deny? He said he hugged her. He denied he called he a Bit*h? Yeah that is worth 11 million.
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10/7/2007  4:06 PM
I know she had the truth on her side because

1)Her performance reviews were all outstanding
2)She received a huge bonus 3 months before she was canned
3)Dolan lied in his deposition about the supposed conversation he had with good old Rusty McCormack the "lead investigator"
4)Jeff Nix testimony. Jeff Nix's contract not being renewed right before the trial
5)Kathleen Decker, she of the questionable jugdement getting a promotion right before the trial began
6)Stephon Marbury demanding his criminal perverted cousin be employed at MSG. Marbury admitting he called Anucha a "bitch"
7)James Dolan looking like a fool and making a fool of himself at his deposition
8)Isiah Thomas was required to attend "sensitivity training"
9)Steve Mills aka "empty suit" full of **** on the stand
10)Not only did the jury award Anucha the full 10 mil she was seeking, they tacked on an additional 1.6 mil!!!!!!! Meaning the jury thought the Garden side was overwhelmingly guilty. Even more money can get tacked onto that award when the judge determines how much she is owed for back and future pay.

Isiah Thomas GUILTY
James Dolan GUILTY
Steve Mills GUILTY

And now Isiah Thomas has the cajones too come out and say his depostion was spliced together and his words were taken out of context? Are you kidding me? What stupid person would fall for that??? Here is Isiah again treating everyone else like we're all fools. Thats the Garden way.
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She didn't get 12mil because Isiah called her a bitch. Even though it wasn't proven that he did. But its also hard to believe that she maked the whole thing up. Especially since she has a delicate voice and seems so innocent when you see her on TV. Plus the fact that she documented everything. She didn't get 12mil because Isiah hugged & kissed her. Isiah admitted to that. She got 12mil because she was wrongfully terminated. Thats why Isiah wasn't held liable to pay a dime. She won her sexual harrassment case for wrongfull termination. They should have taken her complains seriously. But then again I bet you they didn't know that she was documenting everything.
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She didn't get 12mil because Isiah called her a bitch. Even though it wasn't proven that he did. But its also hard to believe that she maked the whole thing up. Especially since she has a delicate voice and seems so innocent when you see her on TV. Plus the fact that she documented everything. She didn't get 12mil because Isiah hugged & kissed her. Isiah admitted to that. She got 12mil because she was wrongfully terminated. Thats why Isiah wasn't held liable to pay a dime. She won her sexual harrassment case for wrongfull termination. They should have taken her complains seriously. But then again I bet you they didn't know that she was documenting everything.

her case was two fold - harrassment and wrongful termination.

isiah was found liable for sexual harrassment so the jury did believe he sexually harrassed her.

having him not pay punitive damages probably means the jury thought that while it was sexual harrassment, they didn't find the degree of it enough to warrant a personal financial liability.

one juror said anucha documented everything and the garden basically did nothing about it. that's why cablevision got hit with the bill.
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10/7/2007  4:27 PM
1)Her performance reviews were all outstanding

Not true. Several notations about her not getting along with others.

2)She received a huge bonus 3 months before she was canned

So did every other MSG executive. It was a company bonus


3)Dolan lied in his deposition about the supposed conversation he had with good old Rusty McCormack the "lead investigator"

Lying and having different recollections are not always equal. Many people recall things differently

4)Jeff Nix testimony. Jeff Nix's contract not being renewed right before the trial.

His salary was reduced long before that and many peoples contracts are not renewed. Means nothing for ABS as his testimony was nothing Isiah didn not previously say he did.


5)Kathleen Decker, she of the questionable jugdement getting a promotion right before the trial began

And? How does that make ABS truthful?


6)Stephon Marbury demanding his criminal perverted cousin be employed at MSG. Marbury admitting he called Anucha a "bitch"

And this has to do means Isiah and Dolan committed sexual harrasment? Maybe the lady is a Bitc*h. Is the trueth not a defense anymore?



7)James Dolan looking like a fool and making a fool of himself at his deposition

Makes ABS an honest person?


8)Isiah Thomas was required to attend "sensitivity training"

As are 10000's of executives and employees a year. ABS Should have as well after her nasty remarks to Knicks players.



9)Steve Mills aka "empty suit" full of **** on the stand
10)Not only did the jury award Anucha the full 10 mil she was seeking, they tacked on an additional 1.6 mil!!!!!!! Meaning the jury thought the Garden side was overwhelmingly guilty. Even more money can get tacked onto that award when the judge determines how much she is owed for back and future pay.


A jury gave a lady 2.6 million for spilling coffee on herself. It doesnt prove ABS is an honest lady.It was later reduced greatly by a different reasonable judge on appeal.



And now Isiah Thomas has the cajones too come out and say his depostion was spliced together and his words were taken out of context? Are you kidding me? What stupid person would fall for that??? Here is Isiah again treating everyone else like we're all fools. Thats the Garden way.

There is little doubt the deposition was edited greatly. Only a Isiah hater wouldnt admit that.

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10/7/2007  5:07 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

1)Her performance reviews were all outstanding

Not true. Several notations about her not getting along with others.

2)She received a huge bonus 3 months before she was canned

So did every other MSG executive. It was a company bonus


3)Dolan lied in his deposition about the supposed conversation he had with good old Rusty McCormack the "lead investigator"

Lying and having different recollections are not always equal. Many people recall things differently

4)Jeff Nix testimony. Jeff Nix's contract not being renewed right before the trial.

His salary was reduced long before that and many peoples contracts are not renewed. Means nothing for ABS as his testimony was nothing Isiah didn not previously say he did.


5)Kathleen Decker, she of the questionable jugdement getting a promotion right before the trial began

And? How does that make ABS truthful?


6)Stephon Marbury demanding his criminal perverted cousin be employed at MSG. Marbury admitting he called Anucha a "bitch"

And this has to do means Isiah and Dolan committed sexual harrasment? Maybe the lady is a Bitc*h. Is the trueth not a defense anymore?



7)James Dolan looking like a fool and making a fool of himself at his deposition

Makes ABS an honest person?


8)Isiah Thomas was required to attend "sensitivity training"

As are 10000's of executives and employees a year. ABS Should have as well after her nasty remarks to Knicks players.



9)Steve Mills aka "empty suit" full of **** on the stand
10)Not only did the jury award Anucha the full 10 mil she was seeking, they tacked on an additional 1.6 mil!!!!!!! Meaning the jury thought the Garden side was overwhelmingly guilty. Even more money can get tacked onto that award when the judge determines how much she is owed for back and future pay.


A jury gave a lady 2.6 million for spilling coffee on herself. It doesnt prove ABS is an honest lady.It was later reduced greatly by a different reasonable judge on appeal.



And now Isiah Thomas has the cajones too come out and say his depostion was spliced together and his words were taken out of context? Are you kidding me? What stupid person would fall for that??? Here is Isiah again treating everyone else like we're all fools. Thats the Garden way.

There is little doubt the deposition was edited greatly. Only a Isiah hater wouldnt admit that.

Good God, I'm not going back and forth on this with you because you clearly believe the Jimmy Dolan empty suit lackeys and nothing I say, or a unanimous verdict against the Garden will change your mind. Your comment about Jimmy Dolan's faulty recollection during a helicopter ride with Rusty McCormack WHICH NEVER HAPPENED is reason enough for me to say your talking out of your ass. Just like Isiah and Dolan are.
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