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islesfan
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ESPN had a poll asking this and the overwhelming response was that Isiah should be fired. How will the response be on UK?
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TrueBlue
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10/2/2007  2:58 PM
But not in relation to this trial, he should have been fired right after his second season. The trial confirms why he should be fired that's all.
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10/2/2007  3:01 PM
He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.
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10/2/2007  3:06 PM
It will take another earthquake for Dolan to fire Zeke. IMO
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10/2/2007  3:06 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.

Co-signed.
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10/2/2007  3:06 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

It will take another earthquake for Dolan to fire Zeke. IMO

jeez, will you quit with the "eddy is fat" jokes already...
islesfan
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10/2/2007  3:07 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.

I guess all that talk about justice was just a bunch of BS. You were very much choosing sides and hoping for a verdict favoring the defendants.

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted.
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10/2/2007  3:09 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bippity10:

It will take another earthquake for Dolan to fire Zeke. IMO

jeez, will you quit with the "eddy is fat" jokes already...

LOL
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islesfan
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10/2/2007  3:10 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

It will take another earthquake for Dolan to fire Zeke. IMO

I don't think it'll take something that drastic. I think major public backlash, especially if the Knicks get off to a slow start, will force Dolan to make a change. It all comes down to business. If Isiah being here is hurting business, he'll be gone.
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10/2/2007  3:12 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:

He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.

The only people who count are the ones who were on the jury. You and I don't and should have very minimal emotional attachment to the results.
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10/2/2007  3:13 PM
I know this is a stupid question but...

Is sexual harassment usually grounds for dismissal?
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10/2/2007  3:14 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.

I guess all that talk about justice was just a bunch of BS. You were very much choosing sides and hoping for a verdict favoring the defendants.

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted.

Sounds like you are speaking about yourself since you were openly hoping for the worst against Isiah, Dolan and MSG.

I wanted justice. If that meant 1-3 years severence pay that was fine by me. This judgement shows it for a sham.

I predict the NBA will not anything at all to Isiah or Dolan. No suspensions. No fines. No bans.
Stern was a lawyer. He can see this was a sham.
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10/2/2007  3:14 PM
Shouldda been fired before this. Any executive that costs his company 11.6 mil in damages should be fired.
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10/2/2007  3:17 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.

The only people who count are the ones who were on the jury. You and I don't and should have very minimal emotional attachment to the results.

I dont have large emotional attachment. I just would just like to see justice done for everyone.
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10/2/2007  3:20 PM

There are many whom Isiah has fired and humiliated that are enjoying the pain and embarassment he must be feeling.

His former partners in the CBA must also be enjoying the fall of Isiah.
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10/2/2007  3:21 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

I know this is a stupid question but...

Is sexual harassment usually grounds for dismissal?

i sorta think so but apparently not always the case... try it out at your place of employment & let us know how it goes.
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islesfan
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10/2/2007  3:21 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.

I guess all that talk about justice was just a bunch of BS. You were very much choosing sides and hoping for a verdict favoring the defendants.

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted.

Sounds like you are speaking about yourself since you were openly hoping for the worst against Isiah, Dolan and MSG.

I wanted justice. If that meant 1-3 years severence pay that was fine by me. This judgement shows it for a sham.

I predict the NBA will not anything at all to Isiah or Dolan. No suspensions. No fines. No bans.
Stern was a lawyer. He can see this was a sham.

That's completely and utterly false.

I was openly hoping for this matter to go to trial and having MSG's and Isiah's dirty laundry aired in public. I said from the beginning that I didn't care what the outcome was.

How is 1-3 years severance, justice? That's what MSG's settlement offer was. I'm sure that offer was based on their fair sense of justice.
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10/2/2007  3:23 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Bippity10:

It will take another earthquake for Dolan to fire Zeke. IMO

I don't think it'll take something that drastic. I think major public backlash, especially if the Knicks get off to a slow start, will force Dolan to make a change. It all comes down to business. If Isiah being here is hurting business, he'll be gone.

You may be right. Who Knows. Dolan does nothing by the book. I have no idea what to expect from this guy. I think there is an equal chance that he will be fired or handed a long-term contract and equal share in the ownership of the Knicks.
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10/2/2007  3:24 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.

I guess all that talk about justice was just a bunch of BS. You were very much choosing sides and hoping for a verdict favoring the defendants.

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted.

Sounds like you are speaking about yourself since you were openly hoping for the worst against Isiah, Dolan and MSG.

I wanted justice. If that meant 1-3 years severence pay that was fine by me. This judgement shows it for a sham.

I predict the NBA will not anything at all to Isiah or Dolan. No suspensions. No fines. No bans.
Stern was a lawyer. He can see this was a sham.

That's completely and utterly false.

I was openly hoping for this matter to go to trial and having MSG's and Isiah's dirty laundry aired in public. I said from the beginning that I didn't care what the outcome was.

How is 1-3 years severance, justice? That's what MSG's settlement offer was. I'm sure that offer was based on their fair sense of justice.

How is 1-3 years severance pay not justice for a termination she claimed came without warrant. Should companies beforced to keep unwanted employees forever?

Your wanting the Knicks and Isiah to look bad says a lot.

Anyway I repeat in my opinion the NBA will do nothing against Isiah and Dolan because Stern was a lawyer and will see this was a sham award.
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10/2/2007  3:30 PM
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by COSSUCKS:

He wont be fired, fined nor suspended. He will not be punished at all by Dolan or the NBA.

People who count will see this as a sham.

I guess all that talk about justice was just a bunch of BS. You were very much choosing sides and hoping for a verdict favoring the defendants.

Sorry you didn't get what you wanted.

Sounds like you are speaking about yourself since you were openly hoping for the worst against Isiah, Dolan and MSG.

I wanted justice. If that meant 1-3 years severence pay that was fine by me. This judgement shows it for a sham.

I predict the NBA will not anything at all to Isiah or Dolan. No suspensions. No fines. No bans.
Stern was a lawyer. He can see this was a sham.

That's completely and utterly false.

I was openly hoping for this matter to go to trial and having MSG's and Isiah's dirty laundry aired in public. I said from the beginning that I didn't care what the outcome was.

How is 1-3 years severance, justice? That's what MSG's settlement offer was. I'm sure that offer was based on their fair sense of justice.

How is 1-3 years severance pay not justice for a termination she claimed came without warrant. Should companies beforced to keep unwanted employees forever?

Your wanting the Knicks and Isiah to look bad says a lot.

Anyway I repeat in my opinion the NBA will do nothing against Isiah and Dolan because Stern was a lawyer and will see this was a sham award.

It's not justice because you can't treat women and employees the way they treated her. Justice isn't just paying someone off with whatever you think is fair for the way you treated them.

If Stern does nothing it'll be because there's no precedent for a commissioner to punish a team president, head coach or team owner for losing a civil case against them.
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10/2/2007  3:37 PM
Well COS...the question is was the behavior of an organization detrimental to the league, business, reputation...the NBA is a joint venture between the owners and David Stern's job is to determine what is in the best interests of the NBA, its product, its reputation for its fans, sponsors, players and yes, OWNERS.

David Stern has the ability to UNILATERALLY impose sanctions upon teams and players and owners and coaches IF he feels that the NBA product is being compromised. If Stern feels that this is the case, then I would think there would be some type of action.

What many people do not see is that the problems that have occurred over the past three-four years created a very negative perception of the team. If Stern acts, it will be because of the actions OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, with this as the "icing on the cake."

Remember, Steinbrenner was BANNED from baseball by Faye Vincent (I think that was the MLB Commish at the time)...plus, we are seeing current Commisioner's of all pro sports act on negativity (see Vick, the Bengals, Artest being suspended for 7 games, NBA dress code)...there is an overwhelming concern for how professional sports are perceived by the public, esp in pro-basketball.

You can think Isiah was a great player, or he is doing a good job here, etc. The bottom line is that THIS IS VERY BAD, VERY, VERY BAD. No one should be concerned with how much $ is going to be paid out...losing sponsor money and ticket sales as well as a PR nightmare is really the issue here. Isiah has STAINED his legacy and he will never get a job in the NBA again.

And quite frankly, if you REALLY ARE A FAN OF THIS TEAM, THE KNICKS, not Isiah or Marbury...the KNICKS, est. 1946, you should want what is BEST for this team and BEST for its fans that spend time and money on it.
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