CNN 9/11 Video Fraud Exposed ******
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
9/18/2007 12:10 PM
The guy who took the pic said he can't even tell where he took the pic. cnn told him he can't even talk about it to anyone. wasup with that?????
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4949
Posts: 29378 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/25/2006 Member: #1126 USA |
9/18/2007 11:24 PM
It's possible the guy could have been in shock. I mean detail is the last thing you think of, when two seperate planes crash into two seperate buildings.
Two things I will say about this. One, millions of people watched the second plane crash into the second building. We don't need to see a video of it, if you where there. And the other thing is, okay, so CNN probably digitally removed the trees, to make the shot visible. The MS geomaping doesn't really make a lot of sense to me unless the video is saying that the entire shot is was some kind of geomaping manipulated to look like real video. I'm not exactly sure how that' would be done or if it's even possible. As far as the cleaning out the trees to get a clear shot, it does not surprise me to find that many different medias use techniques to remove debris from video or photographs to give people a better idea of what the event looks like. Yeah' it's cheesy as hell, but the real question here is, how much of the video is real. I mean someone had a lot of time on they're hands to go looking for something like this. But I guess if you are really familiar with the New York skyline and you notice something missing, I guess you would be interested in why' that is. I do find it interesting from a visual medium point of view and from a 'just how far the media would go to do something like this'. But the main question I have is how much of it is real? Also, could' it have been taken from a boat, in the same alignment of where it looks like it was taken from the ground? Could the person who took the video, could they have climbed into the tree to take the video? The missing 37 story building is an interesting find. I suppose we'd have to see the original CNN video. Conspiracies going on everywhere in the news. How bout that. As if we didn't know. Just one more thing playa, I don't see how this helps the 9/11 murderers. Can you explain. Thanks. I'll never trust this' team again.
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playa2
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9/20/2007 6:41 AM
4949 do you know our military(govt) to have these capabilities.
Most Americans were introduced to the tricks of the digital age in the movie Forrest Gump, when the character played by Tom Hanks appeared to shake hands with President Kennedy. For Hollywood, it is special effects. For covert operators in the U.S. military and intelligence agencies, it is a weapon of the future. "Once you can take any kind of information and reduce it into ones and zeros, you can do some pretty interesting things," says Daniel T. Kuehl, chairman of the Information Operations department of the National Defense University in Washington, the military's school for information warfare. - PSYOPS seeks to exploit human vulnerabilities in enemy governments, militaries and populations. Digital morphing — voice, video, and photo — has come of age, available for use in psychological operations. PSYOPS, as the military calls it, seek to exploit human vulnerabilities in enemy governments, militaries and populations to pursue national and battlefield objectives. To some, PSYOPS is a backwater military discipline of leaflet dropping and radio propaganda. To a growing group of information war technologists, it is the nexus of fantasy and reality. Being able to manufacture convincing audio or video, they say, might be the difference in a successful military operation or coup. Allah on the Holodeck Pentagon planners started to discuss digital morphing after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Covert operators kicked around the idea of creating a computer-faked videotape of Saddam Hussein crying or showing other such manly weaknesses, or in some sexually compromising situation. The nascent plan was for the tapes to be flooded into Iraq and the Arab world. The tape war never proceeded, killed, participants say, by bureaucratic fights over jurisdiction, skepticism over the technology, and concerns raised by Arab coalition partners. What if the U.S. projected a holographic image of Allah floating over Baghdad? But the "strategic" PSYOPS scheming didn't die. What if the U.S. projected a holographic image of Allah floating over Baghdad urging the Iraqi people and Army to rise up against Saddam, a senior Air Force officer asked in 1990? According to a military physicist given the task of looking into the hologram idea, the feasibility had been established of projecting large, three-dimensional objects that appeared to float in the air. But doing so over the skies of Iraq? To project such a hologram over Baghdad on the order of several hundred feet, they calculated, would take a mirror more than a mile square in space, as well as huge projectors and power sources. And besides, investigators came back, what does Allah look like? The Gulf War hologram story might be dismissed were it not the case that washingtonpost.com has learned that a super secret program was established in 1994 to pursue the very technology for PSYOPS application. The "Holographic Projector" is described in a classified Air Force document as a system to "project information power from space ... for special operations deception missions." Voice-morphing? Fake video? Holographic projection? They sound more like Mission Impossible and Star Trek gimmicks than weapons. Yet for each, there are corresponding and growing research efforts as the technologies improve and offensive information warfare expands. Whereas early voice morphing required cutting and pasting speech to put letters or words together to make a composite, Papcun's software developed at Los Alamos can far more accurately replicate the way one actually speaks. Eliminated are the robotic intonations. The irony is that after Papcun finished his speech cloning research, there were no takers in the military. Luckily for him, Hollywood is interested: The promise of creating a virtual Clark Gable is mightier than the sword. Video and photo manipulation has already raised profound questions of authenticity for the journalistic world. With audio joining the mix, it is not only journalists but also privacy advocates and the conspiracy-minded who will no doubt ponder the worrisome mischief that lurks in the not too distant future. "We already know that seeing isn't necessarily believing," says Dan Kuehl, "now I guess hearing isn't either." William M. Arkin, author of "The U.S. Military Online," is a leading expert on national security and the Internet. He lectures and writes on nuclear weapons, military matters and information warfare. An Army intelligence analyst from 1974-1978, Arkin currently consults for Washingtonpost.Newsweek Interactive, MSNBC and the Natural Resources Defense Coun
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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4949
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9/21/2007 2:57 AM
Yeah, doesn't surprise me at all. It's 'Wag The Dog' all over again. The Forrest Gump, I could tell it was dubbed in. The lighting was wrong on those shots. But check this out. I wouldn't doubt something like 'Osama already being dead and the Goverment digitally creating these videos he supposidly is still sending, just to keep the damn war going'. I know that's far fetched for most and I would like to believe that would not be the case, but it is very possible. Just about everything we use and live by here in society, you can almost bet that it was tested and developed at some point in the military first. I'm going to go get a video that will kind of knock your socks off, but people have determined that it's a fake. Take a look at the next hit. It's actually kind of creepy.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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4949
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9/21/2007 3:06 AM
I love this video. It looks very real and who knows. But people have said the trees (if you look very closely) are identicle. They do' look identicle, but if the entire thing is fake, then I gotta say, it is a very good one. The video alignment and focus are totally on que and in perfect sinc. In other words, it's a very well acted cinemagraphed piece.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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playa2
Posts: 34922 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 5/15/2003 Member: #407 |
9/21/2007 6:40 AM
what was that video and what did it prove ?
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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kam77
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9/21/2007 1:41 PM
What is the point? We know the 2nd plane hit the tower. Why do we need a visual of it happening?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4949
Posts: 29378 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/25/2006 Member: #1126 USA |
9/23/2007 12:00 AM
Posted by playa2: The topic was UFOs over Hiati. It proved that because the trees look alike, that it's likely a fake, but a very good fake. Those ships look real, don't you think? Which only proves how easy it would be for someone to manipulate an image to look so real. Like the main topic your talking about here. I'll never trust this' team again.
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CNN 9/11 Video Fraud Exposed ******