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Houston's agent says that Allan would prefer to play for the Knicks
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Ira
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9/14/2007  6:39 AM
I apologize for starting another Houston thread, but I thought that this twist made a new thread reasonable. Is it possible given our roster? Well, Jones and Dickau are either very cuttable or could be part of a multi-player trade, so it would involve clearing another roster spot. Not likely, but possible.

http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1189744161245540.xml&coll=1
Houston's agent: Knicks a favorite
But snags could prevent a reunion
Friday, September 14, 2007
BY DAVE D'ALESSANDRO
Star-Ledger Staff

Forget about the Nets' flirtation with Allan Houston. For now.

There's a team closer to home -- and closer to his heart -- that is a more viable front-runner for his services, if Houston and his agent have anything to say about it.

"Let's be realistic," Bill Strickland said last night. "Given his tenure with the Knicks -- and this is me speaking, not Allan -- I would think they had a slight advantage over any and every team, given his history with the team."

That's not to say the two-time All-Star isn't considering all suitors, but Houston made his reputation in New York, developed an abnormally cordial relationship with owner Jim Dolan and was the face of the franchise for nine mostly successful seasons. Moreover, he lives a short drive from the Knicks' training complex in Greenburgh, N.Y.

The snags, of course, are obvious: The Knicks have 17 guaranteed contracts, including three shooting guards who have to play (Jamal Crawford, Quentin Richardson and Nate Robinson), and a management team that is very distracted right now. There would also be a great deal of pressure on Houston to regain his footing at Madison Square Garden two years after a chronic knee problem prematurely ended his career there.

Speaking of guaranteed contracts, Strickland may be the only one who doesn't consider it a hurdle. With so many teams conscious of the luxury tax threshold, however, it is a very strong consideration for teams such as the Nets -- who, as of now, are unwilling to give Houston anything but a make-good contract.

Does the agent really anticipate anyone giving his client a guaranteed deal?

"If I've got something to say about it," Strickland stated flatly.

"There are any number of (considerations), particular as a veteran player. He told me money is always important, but it's not the major consideration. The ring is important, but not the major consideration. He's driven in part by wanting to end his career on his own terms. And mentoring is a part of it. He sees himself being in a position to influence how young players approach the game.

"His family also figures prominently. That's why New Jersey is a real consideration if things don't work out for the Knicks. There are a number of teams interested. A lot of teams figure prominently in the confluence of things."

Those teams include Miami and Cleveland, among others. Virtually every team that watched Houston's impressive workout Monday at the New York Athletic Club have extended camp invitations to him since then. But as of last night, none are offering him a guaranteed deal. The Knicks and Nets attended the workout.

"A couple have suggested thoughts about a (guaranteed) contract," Strickland said. "I anticipate that when some of the GMs get back from (the Eurobasket tournament in) Spain that I'll hear something in stronger terms, because some of the decision-makers are abroad and need to see him for themselves. Once that occurs, I'll be surprised if anyone there wouldn't invite him to camp."

Does that mean the first team to ante up real money has the edge? Not necessarily.

"That's a decision for Allan to make, with my input," Strickland said. "And I'm believing it won't have to come down to that. I would suggest that there are many other factors he's considering -- who the coach is, style of ball, quality of life, proximity to home, where the team stands vis-à-vis the playoffs, where the team stands cap-wise, in terms of possibility of playing with them beyond this year, and so on.

"There are a number of factors he and I discussed that will be figured into this decision. So it's not really a matter of someone just giving guaranteed money. One team that will remain nameless, I told Allan, 'What if they give you the midlevel (exception), or a portion of it? And the Knicks and Nets can't match that? What are you going to decide?' He started talking about the other factors. That's why I say the Nets are a viable consideration. As are the Knicks -- probably more so."

The Nets will ask Houston to scrimmage with their younger players at their practice facility next week, when GM Ed Stefanski returns from Spain.
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9/14/2007  11:43 AM
The only way I could see him coming back to us is if we make some big 4-1 (like a Kobe or Artest) swap going after some superstar and needing someone to fill roster spots. At a certain point they'd have to be cutting valuable young players so I don't see this happening for Houston.
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9/14/2007  11:56 AM
I think an artest for nate, crawford makes the most sense to be honest it allows the knicks to get rid of two guys that take a lot of bad shots, i don't really care about either of there potential down the road. Crawford has had his chance, nate just doesn't fit here.

Marbury(30)-Collins (18)
Q-(30)Houston (15)
Artest (35)-Balkman (25)
Randlof (35)-Lee (30)
Curry (30)

Thats a team to get excited over, plenty of defense, low post presence is the best in the entire nba, toughness and you lose crawford contract and don't have to deal with nate
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9/14/2007  11:59 AM
I don't see how you open a roster spot for him, not knowing if his knee will hold up.

However, I wouldn't mind seeing him on the team. I think he'd be a positive influence. That means it probably won't happen.

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9/14/2007  12:13 PM
It really isn't a concern if you open up a roster spot for me. So what if he doesn't play.

You have Chandler, Nicholas and Jefferies waiting in the wings

Marbury-Collins
Artest-Nicholas
Q-Balkman-Chandler-Jefferies
Randolf-Lee-Rose
Curry-James-Morris

You have the depth, Crawford has proven to be an intelligent charismatic guy, but his game never improves and for everyone who says how clutch the guy is, he takes every big shot, missed three against memphis, one against detriot, one against utah its not like he is always nailing shots, he holds the ball and takes awful shots a majority of the time when we need him to attack the rim

Houston working with Chandler, Balkman, Collins, Nicholas, etc. We need to teach professionalism on this team not have an environment that isiah has created where no one gives a **** bring in anal rapists, players that don't care, harrass people within the org, and treat the fans like **** and show no love to everyone that watches them coast through games with an attitude that isiah has created.

Would I rather be paying charles oakly jerome james 5 million, you bet your ass i would and everyone laughs when oak wants money like that, i do as well but lets not forget we are paying 10 million for a combine 7pts 6rbs from the JJ's.

Professionalism is more important
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9/14/2007  12:15 PM
David also added this a day prior:

http://blog.nj.com/netsblast/2007/09/rod_says.html
You want a hunch? They'll offer him a camp tryout, vet's minimum. And he'll turn them down.

One reason: Bill Strickland has already placed one client in Nets camp without a guaranteed contract (Malik Allen). Why would he want to diminish the chance of either guy to make the team by placing a second one there? It makes no sense.

No, we haven't talked to Mr. Bill; we're just guessing.
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9/14/2007  1:12 PM
Posted by martin:

David also added this a day prior:

http://blog.nj.com/netsblast/2007/09/rod_says.html
You want a hunch? They'll offer him a camp tryout, vet's minimum. And he'll turn them down.

One reason: Bill Strickland has already placed one client in Nets camp without a guaranteed contract (Malik Allen). Why would he want to diminish the chance of either guy to make the team by placing a second one there? It makes no sense.

No, we haven't talked to Mr. Bill; we're just guessing.

Makes sense to me. It looks like he's just trying to get teams to move their asses and sign him. They're also giving the impression that he's in no rush, so he doesnt look desperate. His agent is trying to carve out leverage for him. On the other hand, Houston has made his agent millions while not even playing. I would think what Houston wants would be his priority over Malik Allen.

And if I were Houston, I'd prefer the Knicks too. Dolan would probably try to give him the MLE.
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9/14/2007  4:39 PM
It's probably not going to happen here, but if somehow it does work out (let's say we cut the two guards who came with Zach and there's a serious backcourt injury in camp), I'd love to see him finish his career with the Knicks on a positive note. According to this quote from Martin's link, that seems to be what he's looking for.
"I think Allan's looking for an opportunity, first and foremost," Thorn said. "He's trying to find a team - not necessarily a championship team - that will give him an opportunity to play. I think Allan is unhappy he didn't go out on his own terms. He's looking to maybe do something about that. I think all the teams looking at him were pretty good teams, but he's looking for some place he can play."
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9/14/2007  5:25 PM
Posted by MS:

I think an artest for nate, crawford makes the most sense to be honest it allows the knicks to get rid of two guys that take a lot of bad shots, i don't really care about either of there potential down the road. Crawford has had his chance, nate just doesn't fit here.

Marbury(30)-Collins (18)
Q-(30)Houston (15)
Artest (35)-Balkman (25)
Randlof (35)-Lee (30)
Curry (30)

Thats a team to get excited over, plenty of defense, low post presence is the best in the entire nba, toughness and you lose crawford contract and don't have to deal with nate


I'd like to get chandler, morris and nichols some minutes, here and there, but I think a 9 man rotation like you've stated makes a lot of sense. Assuming we cut Dickau and Jones, you have JJ1, JJ2, and Malik rounding out the roster. Also, Nichols becomes less necessary early on if Houston is available.
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9/17/2007  8:43 AM
Posted by mrbean259:

The only way I could see him coming back to us is if we make some big 4-1 (like a Kobe or Artest) swap going after some superstar and needing someone to fill roster spots. At a certain point they'd have to be cutting valuable young players so I don't see this happening for Houston.
and we should.. we should move some of those young guys for Artest
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Ira
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9/17/2007  10:56 AM
I like the idea of Nate and Craw for Artest. I also like the rotation MS suggested. I don't see the Kings doing that deal, because they have Bibby for two more years and Kevin Martin was just re-signed.
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9/17/2007  11:22 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by mrbean259:

The only way I could see him coming back to us is if we make some big 4-1 (like a Kobe or Artest) swap going after some superstar and needing someone to fill roster spots. At a certain point they'd have to be cutting valuable young players so I don't see this happening for Houston.
and we should.. we should move some of those young guys for Artest


that would seem to make the most sense at this point considering Dolan's desperation to make the playoffs this season... a 3 for 1 for Artest, buyout Big Turd James, & sign Allan to a LLE contract.
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Houston's agent says that Allan would prefer to play for the Knicks

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