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playa2
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8/27/2007  10:25 AM
Referees fear Donaghy will overstate extent of betting

By Roscoe Nance, USA TODAY
LOS ANGELES — NBA officials say casual gambling exists among their ranks, but at the National Basketball Referees Foundation Conference this weekend, their main concern was that Tim Donaghy would exaggerate the extent of the gambling.
One veteran referee at the conference, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the collective bargaining agreement prohibits officials from talking to the media without the NBA's permission, said the topic of private discussions this weekend among the referees was that Donaghy would try to better his situation at their expense.

Gambling other than at a racetrack in the offseason is a violation of NBA rules for referees. Commissioner David Stern said Sunday that the referees need not worry about repercussions from Donaghy's accusations.

"Why would we believe anything he says?" Stern said. "What we're going to do is give all 60 referees a chance to give us information about their activities, while legal, that violate our rules."

Donaghy, an NBA referee for 13 years, has pleaded guilty to two felony gambling charges, including betting on games he officiated. He has said he will name at least 20 other referees who were involved in gambling activities.

"There is some gambling, but it's minimal," said Lamell McMorris, spokesman for the referees' union. "Frankly, I'd say minimal to none."

The veteran official said while casual bets such as office pools are prevalent among referees, it is nearly impossible to say how many referees played a slot machine when there are training camps, summer league games and USA Basketball games in Las Vegas.

John Lauro, Donaghy's attorney, Sunday declined to address concerns raised by the other referees.
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What else would refs say to the media, yea we gambled on games before duh?

Stern and his arrogance irks me to no end(Commissioner David Stern said Sunday that the referees need not worry about repercussions from Donaghy's accusations).
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8/27/2007  10:40 AM
What do you want him to say? "Donaghy, who is a model of honesty and good character, has pointed the finger at a large number of our referees. Based on his high credibility, we are immediately looking to discipline said referees for their actions."

Of course the NBA will take what he says into account when investigating the activities of the rest of their refs. But why would they take any action based on his accusations? Letting refs come forward to admit to any fishy behavior is a great first step.
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8/27/2007  12:24 PM
I tend to agree. It was a smart statement. Stern has no idea what Donaghy is going to say, but in case it is really bad, he has already started the process of convincing people it might not be true by saying beforehand that he has no intent on relying on it. Now the reality is that he is going to check and doublecheck every allegation Donaghy makes, but he is not going to let us know that.
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8/27/2007  12:57 PM
so if what donaghy says is true about multiple officals , will stern cover his refs regardless?
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8/27/2007  1:07 PM
So let me get this straight....... this MFer has a No Tolerance policy when it comes to players leaving the bench, even if they don't get involved in the altercation leaving no room for interpretation but appears to be once again defending his Crooked Azz Sheep even if they happen to find some were dabbling where they ought not?

He needs to jump start this league by resigning.
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8/27/2007  1:32 PM
TrueBlue what would that accomplish?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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8/27/2007  1:36 PM
Posted by kam77:

TrueBlue what would that accomplish?

He needs to leave it's not debatable. Get someone in there with some integrity who truly cares about the game instead of corrupt system. Seriously if one of his refs gambled playing a game of Go-Fish they need to suspended a rule is a rule. Don't pick and choose when you feel it's coshere to enforce rules. If that means he has to hire 60 brand new refs then that's what needs to be done.
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8/27/2007  1:36 PM
The zero-tolerance for leaving the Bench wasn't always in the league rules. It was introduced after seeing what could happen. Now Stern can tell these referees going froward that there will be a true enforcement of zero-tolerance for referee gambling.

We're talking about refs gambling on things not dealing with the NBA here. Its a concern only if the referee has a gambling habit. I play the NCAA tourney every year but i don't play lotto or go to Atlantic City. Does that mean I can't be an NBA referee? It hasn't it the past and it shouldn't.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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8/27/2007  1:38 PM
If that means he has to hire 60 brand new refs then that's what needs to be done.

How would that help the game? Lets see what these 20 other referees are accused of first. Anyone found betting on the NBA should be banned but someone involved in Fantasy Football or an NCAA tourney should obviously not be banned, don't you agree?

Officials ARE allowed to bet on Horses by the way. So its not a zero-tolerance policy right now.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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8/27/2007  2:24 PM
I believe the potential violations are centered around Casino gambling.
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8/27/2007  3:54 PM
I find it hard to believe that only one ref in a league that too often looks like one team is getting the business in big games with phantom calls doesn't have other refs swinging the game one way or another.
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8/27/2007  3:57 PM
playa you are a consipracy nut. Nothing you say is surprising.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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8/27/2007  4:01 PM
Posted by kam77:

playa you are a consipracy nut. Nothing you say is surprising.

Isn't that the truth. Dude I'm like WTF with all the conspiracy/scandal talk? Like some women and their Soap Operas or something.
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8/27/2007  4:02 PM
DUDE i AM A BASKETBALL FAN, save that conspiracy stuff .

I have been watching ball for over 25 yrs, these games have been tainted and the love of the game has blinded so many
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8/27/2007  4:27 PM
It was not an insult - don't deny your colors playa. You always assume there is a big conspiracy. You could be right sometimes but with you its the poster who cried wolf. You could be right and all the refs are in on it but you have no proof. You're willing to believe one mans word against the entire game? I'm a fan and i don't. I've been waching for as long as you've been watching. Was it fixed in the 80s and 90s in your opinion?

[Edited by - kam77 on 08-27-2007 4:28 PM]
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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8/27/2007  5:02 PM
There was always an element that looked fishy even to basketball purest.

Markreting and money has tainted the game we love.

Don't think it's every game or the whole game in all cases.

The latest descrepency was the dallas miami nba finals NUFF SAID!
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8/27/2007  5:15 PM
The latest descrepency was the dallas miami nba finals NUFF SAID!

Evidence please?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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8/27/2007  5:53 PM
go to mark cubans blog
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8/27/2007  6:09 PM
lol
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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8/27/2007  6:09 PM
Posted by playa2:

so if what donaghy says is true about multiple officals , will stern cover his refs regardless?

No, he's not covering them. Stern is letting the refs know he isn't going to blindly punish the refs based on the accusations of a man facing federal charges. If what Donaghy says is true about the refs, and other evidence backs his accusations, then what will happen is yet to be seen...
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