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BoBo10
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8/14/2007  5:02 PM
Greatest moment in sports history:
I am Bippity. Bippity is also me.
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daddynel
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8/14/2007  5:30 PM
dude, did timmy turn you down for an autograph or something?
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8/14/2007  6:06 PM
Crawford lost it. It was all on him.
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8/14/2007  7:40 PM
hmmm...how about one of the greatest to ever play the game?
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8/14/2007  9:46 PM
Man - you should post on Spurs site.
Spurs haters group need some help. They are in a pretty bad shape against Spurs lovers lately.

We have very strong group of haters on this board and they don't need any help.
All help coming from Knicks players, owner, and GM/coach.
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8/14/2007  10:14 PM
Bobo what the hell is up with you and Tim Duncan
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8/14/2007  11:06 PM
how about an option that says Tim Duncan is the best power forward to ever play the game?
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8/15/2007  12:33 AM
Posted by bishop:

how about an option that says Tim Duncan is the best power forward to ever play the game?

I would realy appreciate that.

And how about a suspension of 1 games pay for Joe Crawford ejecting a guy for having fun at an NBA game. David Stern's facist ass must love Joe Crawford.
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8/15/2007  11:53 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by bishop:

how about an option that says Tim Duncan is the best power forward to ever play the game?

I would realy appreciate that.

And how about a suspension of 1 games pay for Joe Crawford ejecting a guy for having fun at an NBA game. David Stern's facist ass must love Joe Crawford.

Crawford got suspended for the rest of the season including the playoffs. His return this season is not automatic.
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8/15/2007  12:16 PM
Posted by Ira:
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by bishop:

how about an option that says Tim Duncan is the best power forward to ever play the game?

I would realy appreciate that.

And how about a suspension of 1 games pay for Joe Crawford ejecting a guy for having fun at an NBA game. David Stern's facist ass must love Joe Crawford.

Crawford got suspended for the rest of the season including the playoffs. His return this season is not automatic.

DAMN!!! See what happens? A fcist coach is suspended for a a portion of a season by a facist commisioner. Thats too much. The Refs have no union or a very week one, that punishment is way way out of line, although what crawford did was wrong, lets not go overboard.

David Stern only has one speed: overboard.
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8/15/2007  12:21 PM
^Agreed. If Ira's comment is accurate, thats too much suspension.
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8/15/2007  12:24 PM
I have a feeling that the suspension is not only a result of Crawford's actions in the game, but also immediately following and possibly his behavior when meeting with Stern.
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8/15/2007  12:29 PM
Posted by Andrew:

I have a feeling that the suspension is not only a result of Crawford's actions in the game, but also immediately following and possibly his behavior when meeting with Stern.

When the suspension was announced, Stern stressed it was a result of a combination of the incident itself, Crawford's prior behavior, and repeated warnings he had been given about learning to control his temper.
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8/15/2007  1:36 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

^Agreed. If Ira's comment is accurate, thats too much suspension.

Here's my source.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2840587

I don't think it's too much. Crawford not only crossed the line, he jumped over it and danced around on the other side. More importantly, he influenced the outcome or the game because he was out of control. The question in my mind is, should he ever be allowed to officiate again.
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8/15/2007  1:43 PM
Posted by Ira:
Posted by Silverfuel:

^Agreed. If Ira's comment is accurate, thats too much suspension.

Here's my source.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2840587

I don't think it's too much. Crawford not only crossed the line, he jumped over it and danced around on the other side. More importantly, he influenced the outcome or the game because he was out of control. The question in my mind is, should he ever be allowed to officiate again.

Keep in mind the rest of the season was about two games.

And it would have been a bit odd having him work the playoffs right after this incident. Inevitably he would have had to work some Spurs games - and nobody would think he would have a completely fair POV right after this had taken place.

[Edited by - mythfaze on 08-15-2007 1:45 PM]
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8/15/2007  1:53 PM
Why would a career ban be warranted?

Simply because so far, Crawford still believes he did nothing wrong and would have handled the situation exactly the same (he stated this). How can you put someone like that back in place?
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8/15/2007  2:12 PM
Posted by Andrew:

Why would a career ban be warranted?

Simply because so far, Crawford still believes he did nothing wrong and would have handled the situation exactly the same (he stated this). How can you put someone like that back in place?

What if he knows a few things?
Can NBA allow to get it out in the light of last events?
He will be back and will do what he always did...




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8/15/2007  5:42 PM
Posted by Andrew:

Why would a career ban be warranted?

Simply because so far, Crawford still believes he did nothing wrong and would have handled the situation exactly the same (he stated this). How can you put someone like that back in place?

Exactly. He has to make it clear that he realizes what he did wrong and he has to clearly demonstrate that the league can expect him to handle situations with a cool head and with dignity and impartiality. Apologizing to Tim Duncan would be a good start.
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8/15/2007  10:09 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Andrew:

Why would a career ban be warranted?

Simply because so far, Crawford still believes he did nothing wrong and would have handled the situation exactly the same (he stated this). How can you put someone like that back in place?

What if he knows a few things?
Can NBA allow to get it out in the light of last events?
He will be back and will do what he always did...


Not really. Stern has gotten rid of officials who had personal problems in the past. These guys do not have multi-year contracts. One year and you are evaluated after the season. I think that is the case in most major sports. If you don't believe me just ask Jake O'Donnell. I think he is still waiting by the phone after 13 years.
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8/16/2007  10:35 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Andrew:

Why would a career ban be warranted?

Simply because so far, Crawford still believes he did nothing wrong and would have handled the situation exactly the same (he stated this). How can you put someone like that back in place?

What if he knows a few things?
Can NBA allow to get it out in the light of last events?
He will be back and will do what he always did...


Not really. Stern has gotten rid of officials who had personal problems in the past. These guys do not have multi-year contracts. One year and you are evaluated after the season. I think that is the case in most major sports. If you don't believe me just ask Jake O'Donnell. I think he is still waiting by the phone after 13 years.

He pretty much ruined any chance he'd ever officiate again after this:

However a year later in an interview with ESPN, O'Donnell admitted to having a long-standing grudge against Drexler that began while "Clyde the Glide" was playing for the Portland Trail Blazers. O'Donnell commented, "I wouldn't give Clyde Drexler much leeway because of the way he reacted with me all the time. I thought at times he would give cheap shots to people, and I just would not allow it."
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