i was so bored at work that i made a rating system of the new york starting point guards of the past 15 years or since the ewing era. i put the top five according to a ranking system and here they are:

1.) mark jackson:
leadership- 9
passing- 10
court vision- 10
dribble- 10
shot/offense- 8
penetration/layup- 8
defense- 6
ball control/tempo- 8
clutch- 7
chemistry- 9

2.) derek harper:
leadership- 10
passing- 7
court vision- 7
dribble- 8
shot/offense- 9
penetration/ layup- 7
defense- 9
ball control/ tempo- 9
clutch- 9
chemistry- 8

3.) doc rivers:
leadership- 10
passing- 6
court vision- 6
dribble- 8
shot/offense- 8
penetration/ layup- 8
defense- 9
ball control/tempo- 10
clutch- 9
chemistry- 9

4.) stephon marbury:
leadership- 6
passing- 9
court vision- 7
dribble- 8
shot/offense- 10
penetration/ layup- 10
defense- 7
ball control/ tempo- 6
clutch- 8
chemistry- 5

5.) charlie ward:
leadership- 8
passing- 6
court vision- 5
dribble- 6
shot/offense- 7
penetration/ layup- 8
defense- 9
ball control/ tempo- 9
clutch- 8
chemistry- 10

i hope this is accurate. if i am bored again, i will do the rest of the positions.

Anyone ever heard of a guy name Walt Frazier??...Harper and Doc were way past their primes when they got here..Jackson was a huge liability on D...Not much to choose from in the past 15 yrs..



[Edited by - holfresh on 08-12-2007 10:53 PM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 08-12-2007 11:44 PM]

[Edited by - holfresh on 08-12-2007 11:44 PM]

Clyde is immortal.

Doc and Harper were way too old when the knicks got them. Those guys were still damn good tough players till the end.

Mark jax was too young, arrogant, and inexperienced in his first stint. His second stint he was too old, smart and slow. All his beat years were in other uniforms.

Ward was a soldier. Very tough, smart and consistant. Though out matched every night, he still contributed.

Chris childs gets a bad rap, but the dude was just as consistant as ward. He showed us his worth when he went to toronto and helped them beat the knicks. He was a good leader/teamate and helped Charlie form a decent tandem at the point.

Rod is still the man for me. I can't believe the knicks traded him, and I can't believe they didn't try to sign him instead of childs. One of those guys that were good enough to have made the all-star team just was on the short end of the stick when it came to the depth at his position and his losing teams. His best team had webber, juwan Howard, and a young sheed. Sheed was a bob factor really, and webber wasn't what he was in sactown yet. They gave the bulls a good first round series but they were quickly broken up the next year instead of building on it. They maxed out Howard and rod. Nothing else to show for that. Still rod was a damn good point guard. He obviously takes great care of his body cuz he probably still can play.

well, i would have put earl and clyde up there but to be honest, i started watching bball during the ewing era. i was not even born when those two ran point so it is unfair that i would rank them. i would like someone who saw them play to rank them though. that is why i started this. as far as charlie goes, he was always in the top twenty in three point percentage so that is why his shooting is up there. i mean he should because they leave him open thanks to being on a starting lineup with the likes of ewing, houston, sprewell and lj. as far as penetration goes, you don't remember the pacer series where he penetrated at will? he is a good penetrator but maybe an 8 is too high. a 7 would suffice.

Clyde was a complete player. There wasn't any important aspect of the game that he wasn't very good at. He passed well, shot the ball well, penetrated well, and played good d. He was a very smart player - always playing within himself and controlling the tempo of the game. As far as point guards go, the Knicks haven't had a close second to him.

No Michael Ray Richardson?

No Edmund sherrod?

Damn, EnySpree nailed that Strickland take.

*Thinks about an amalgamation of the Knicks PG situation of the '90s --- castoffs, washouts, over the hill, and undertalented*

*Knows that an aggressive, talented, and offensive-minded PG could have made the difference*

*Remembers the horrible Strickland trade*

*weeps softly, but maintains mainhood*