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jrodmc
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11/23/2018  2:51 PM
What is the value or utility of rooting for one team over another?
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11/23/2018  5:12 PM
jrodmc wrote:What is the value or utility of rooting for one team over another?

None.

Other than a completely personal one.

Which is the whole point.

Now your turn to answer:

What is the value or utility of rooting for one team over another?

What is the value or utility of your perceived higher level of expectation other than your image of yourself?

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11/23/2018  6:36 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
jrodmc wrote:What is the value or utility of rooting for one team over another?

None.

Other than a completely personal one.

Which is the whole point.

Now your turn to answer:

What is the value or utility of rooting for one team over another?

What is the value or utility of your perceived higher level of expectation other than your image of yourself?

Your first answer was my point. Rooting/fandom is a personal preference.
Not sure why you continually need to assign perceptions and values to someone else's personal preferences.

Are you compensating?

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11/24/2018  12:18 PM
jrodmc wrote:Your first answer was my point. Rooting/fandom is a personal preference.
Not sure why you continually need to assign perceptions and values to someone else's personal preferences.

Then your point is you are a hypocrite. It was you, not I, who criticized me for recognizing that winning 100 games in an achievement and indication whoever wins 100 is a VERY good team.

As you correctly identified, I am a pragmatic fan. But you went on to critique my personal preference.

Uhh, bro, these are really great and pragmatic outlooks on baseball if you don't happen to be a Yankee fan.

Yankee fans don't measure results by success in the death march of the regular season and count the number of seasonal booby prizes they can think about year after year.

You aren't speaking for your personal preference, you were speaking for Yankees fans. You choose to favorably compare yankees fans to fans who just personally prefer to root for other teams.

So I choose to point out how self-defeating that preference is. That your personal preference is perpetual disappointment.

In any context, I feel comfortable telling someone who "expects" something that has no better than a 10-15% of happening to happen and will be unfulfilled if it doesn't they don't seem to understand math. Attaching that "expectation" to any sports team doesn't change the math.

I see actual major league players, who have a talent beyond any of us and actually contribute to a team's success, wildly celebrate just qualifying for the postseason, and then celebrating a wildcard win.

If the players recognize those things are achievements and worth celebrating in September and October, I think I'm on safe ground recognizing then as achievements worth celebrating in November.

Unless you believe you have higher "standards" than Aaron Judge and Didi Gregorius.

I was having a baseball discussion about how good the 2018 Yankees were and their level of talent headed into the 2019 season. YOU interjected to tell me what the objective standards (dumb ones) of Yankees fans are.

NOW confronted with the ramifications of these "standards," now it's just a "personal preference."

Thank you for making my point for me.

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11/26/2018  3:49 PM
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/good-mlb-teams-oppose-income-inequality/
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12/5/2018  5:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/5/2018  5:44 PM
No, Corbin. Yankees were outbid. Machado and Harper are young superstars. I hope the Yankees at least grab one of them. Even if the pitching isn’t substantially upgraded, Machado should save some runs.
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12/6/2018  9:13 AM
Agreed, but all I'm seeing from Cashman is they want pitching and middle infield; the outfield apparently has no room for Harper. Hopefully we get Muchado; they were peppering Boone yesterday on ESPN 98.7FM for his opinion on "players that don't hustle on routine groundouts"

You want Kluber or Cykel? Since we can't get both

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12/6/2018  12:20 PM
jrodmc wrote:Agreed, but all I'm seeing from Cashman is they want pitching and middle infield; the outfield apparently has no room for Harper. Hopefully we get Muchado; they were peppering Boone yesterday on ESPN 98.7FM for his opinion on "players that don't hustle on routine groundouts"

You want Kluber or Cykel? Since we can't get both


Machado's biggest mistake was careless wording. Half our guys don't hustle. Gary Sanchez comes to mind! I remember that triple Voit hit - he stared at it for 5 seconds admiring the home run he thought he hit.
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12/13/2018  12:22 PM
A few quotes from an insightful article
Former 'Evil Empire' Yankees Now Backing Down in MLB Free-Agent Money War
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2809992-former-evil-empire-yankees-now-backing-down-in-mlb-free-agent-money-war
Once upon a time, the New York Yankees were the perennial bullies of the MLB offseason. The big spenders. The Evil Empire. These days, the Bronx Bombers' bottomless budget is more fairy tale than reality.

In the 2018-19 offseason, New York was supposed to open its wallet wide for any number of glistening free agents, including superstars Bryce Harper and Manny Machado...is this a world where the Yankees aren't interested in generational talents such as Harper and Machado in the midst of their primes?...

The scion of George Steinbrenner is tepidly saying the team will spend as needed. But read between the lines, and it's clear the franchise would like to remain below the luxury-tax threshold in perpetuity. At the moment, New York ranks ninth in MLB in committed payroll for 2019, per Spotrac.

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12/14/2018  2:26 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:A few quotes from an insightful article
Former 'Evil Empire' Yankees Now Backing Down in MLB Free-Agent Money War
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2809992-former-evil-empire-yankees-now-backing-down-in-mlb-free-agent-money-war
Once upon a time, the New York Yankees were the perennial bullies of the MLB offseason. The big spenders. The Evil Empire. These days, the Bronx Bombers' bottomless budget is more fairy tale than reality.

In the 2018-19 offseason, New York was supposed to open its wallet wide for any number of glistening free agents, including superstars Bryce Harper and Manny Machado...is this a world where the Yankees aren't interested in generational talents such as Harper and Machado in the midst of their primes?...

The scion of George Steinbrenner is tepidly saying the team will spend as needed. But read between the lines, and it's clear the franchise would like to remain below the luxury-tax threshold in perpetuity. At the moment, New York ranks ninth in MLB in committed payroll for 2019, per Spotrac.


We really spent $130 million on McCann and Beltran?? Holy crap.
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