Probly sounds a tad dramatic, but I'm serious.


It's been almost 4 years.


Excuses, spin jobs, empty promises, harassment lawsuits, and a 118-182 record.


And now the KG dream is *officially* over.



As far as I'm concerned, it's Kobe or Die.


Either Isiah steals him away from the Lakers, or we kick his incompetent ass to the curb by this time next year.



Nothing short of a superstar will bring respectability back to the Garden, and if Isiah is good at anything, it's reaching out to other teams' players.


Next summer we WILL have the assets to offer LA -- a huge Marbury expiring, young talent, and draft picks. (assuming the Garnett trade has set the bar).


In 2008 we can offer:

Kobe
Fisher/Radman

for

Marbury
Lee
Balkman
Collins/Nate
and 2 1st rounders



We'll HAVE the pieces.


Anything short of Kobe (or any superstar for that matter) next season and I'm off the bandwagon till I see this franchise is actually serious about winning...








[Edited by - bobs3304 on 08-01-2007 03:33 AM]

It will really depend on how Lee and Balkman develop. If they both can produce high results this season, their trade value will rocket. I think even with Curry and Randolph, IT is going to make sure Lee gets at least 27 minutes a game. If he can improve on his numbers from last year, he should be a nice trade piece. The bigger question is with Balkman. I have no doubt that if he were given 25 minutes a game, he would average 10 points, 8 rebounds, 1.5 steals, 2 assists, and 2 blocks a game, which would be pretty good for a second year player getting less than 30 minutes a game. Unfortunately, we have Jeffries in the way of Balkman getting consistent minutes.

Simply put, we can make a competitive bid, but there is going to be alot of competition for Kobe. I would not put my hopes in it getting done. I am more interested in seeing what this team can do with the players we have, because there is alot of talent here. I think a smaller trade that balances the roster and consolidates our talent can have a big impact on the performance of this team. I would love to get Kobe, but this team should be able to have some success even if we don't get him.

Nothing short of a superstar will bring respectability back to the Garden

If Kobe were here and we won 36 games, is that respectability?

Here is what will bring respectability.

Effort.

Wins.

No Excuses.

No more trades that put us so far over the cap we have no manageability.

Owning our own Lotto Pick if we're in the lottery.

I'd be excited with 36 wins and owning our own lotto pick because we'd be able to add another young player with the potential to develop.

Respectability is giving this group of young players a chance to either turn into winners or trade assets.

Lets see what Curry, Zach, Lee, Collins, Nate, Balkman, Chandler, Nicholls & Crawford can do together.

I'd much rather give this group a try, watch effort- than trade for a superstar diva like Kobe.

Kobe Envy

bobs - Kobe is a self-centered prick who makes the hated Marbury look like Mother Teresa. There is no reason for the Lakers to do that silly deal. They are not in the cap business, they are in the Superstar business of selling celebrity courtside seats.

You really think Jack Nicholson wants that trade?

get real

No to trading Lee, Collins or Balkman.

Kobe stays where he is.

[Edited by - misterearl on 08-01-2007 09:57 AM]

boston offered up a potential 20/10/1.5 player for a 31 year old kg (along with all the other stuff).

lee is not 20/10...if we liken jefferson to amare, then lee is marion. and amare has more value than marion.

we don't have the pieces to get kobe unless we get a top 3 pick in the 2008 draft.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 08-01-2007 10:17 AM]

One of the Picks was Minnys own they gave up with Wally. They got that one back. With Minny perhaps tanking, they needed that pick back.

Minny could rebuild in a few years with the real deal.

We don't have many picks left to trade, no expirings of note, and no blue chip kids. Lee is the closest and he is not franchise player.

Posted by djsunyc:

plus, would kobe want to come to an improving east now? kobe + curry or zach is not enough anymore after the boston deal.

Kobe's got a huge ego... i can see him coming here just for the challenge of it... NY is the perfect place for him to play IMO.

Kobe or not Kobe.

36? Someone mark this post. Unlike the homers..you're a pretty arrogant SOB Bobs..going by your CUrry thread and your other posts.

Posted by bobs3304:

I am NOT interested in "seeing what this team can do", b/c unlike homers, I can already see the writing on the wall.


We'll be a 36 win team, and in the lottery.....again.


Isiah will make excuses, and I'm sure Dolan won't fire him.


And we'll be stuck in mediocrity for the next 3 years.

You can hold me to the 36 wins though...