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djsunyc
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7/31/2007  4:07 PM
east: bosh, kg, zach, sheed, jermaine, jamison, ok4, josh smith

west: dirk, duncan, gasol, boozer, jefferson, amare, odom, brand
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Posted by djsunyc:

east: bosh, kg, zach, sheed, jermaine, jamison, ok4, josh smith

west: dirk, duncan, gasol, boozer, jefferson, amare, odom, brand

Although he hasn't played a real NBA game yet Horford will be ATL's 4 and I mean immediately.
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7/31/2007  4:35 PM
Top 5:
1. Duncan - WEST
2. KG - EAST
3. Dirk - WEST
4. Brand - WEST
5. Amare - WEST

Balance is still west, by far.

Wouldn't you say Odom is more of a SF?
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7/31/2007  4:36 PM
Wait I thought there was just a thread that declared Howard a PF.
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7/31/2007  4:39 PM
Howard is a center.
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7/31/2007  4:41 PM
Posted by Panos:

Howard is a center.


So is Amare
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Posted by Vmart:
Posted by Panos:

Howard is a center.


So is Amare

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7/31/2007  4:44 PM
Posted by Panos:

Top 5:
1. Duncan - WEST
2. KG - EAST
3. Dirk - WEST
4. Brand - WEST
5. Amare - WEST

Balance is still west, by far.

Wouldn't you say Odom is more of a SF?

I wouldn't say its west by far, because Amare isn't a PF he plays center for the Suns. I htink Brand and Zach are about equal. I know before you call me a homer take a look at Zach's numbers vs. Brand and then let me have it.
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Brand is a much superior defensive player.
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7/31/2007  4:49 PM
Posted by Panos:

Howard is a center.

So wait, why come they announce him as a power forward during NBA games. You better talk to the Magic announcer.
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7/31/2007  4:55 PM
Posted by Panos:

Brand is a much superior defensive player.

He didn't play much defense vs Zach. Zach pretty much wiped the floor with him.

My top PFs
Duncan W
KG E
Dirk W
Boozer W
Brand W
O'Neal E
Zach E
Wallace E
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7/31/2007  5:03 PM
Sometimes tall PFs play center if the team has another good PF or is lacking a center worthy of starting. Why this is such a foreign concept is unknown. Playing a 6'10" or 6'11" PF at center is much less of an out of position issue on most nights, than playing players at other positions out of position. Take into account, as well, that a certain percentage of NBA players are naturally able to play multiple positions without much issue, anyway.

What's the issue? Because it knocks Zach down a notch or two. Who cares? It doesn't make anyone a better player just because you might consider a certain player to play a different position.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 31 2007 5:04 PM]
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82 games lists Howard as a Center. ESPN lists him as a F/C. NBA lists him as a Forward. To me he plays more like a Center. He rarely steps out and shoots the jumper. it's all in close, tips and dunks. Their best win% of 78.5%, came when they played Nelson, Ariza, Hill, Turkoglu and Howard at Center. They list Milicic as playing PF 53% of the time he was on the court. ESPN lists him as a F/C.
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7/31/2007  5:31 PM
west wins easy.
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Posted by nixluva:

82 games lists Howard as a Center. ESPN lists him as a F/C. NBA lists him as a Forward. To me he plays more like a Center. He rarely steps out and shoots the jumper. it's all in close, tips and dunks. Their best win% of 78.5%, came when they played Nelson, Ariza, Hill, Turkoglu and Howard at Center. They list Milicic as playing PF 53% of the time he was on the court. ESPN lists him as a F/C.

82games.com isn't always correct. One year they had Curry listed at the PF and Frye as the center when they were on the court together.

Either way, this is a petty argument.. so let's abstract it a bit. Zach is a good PF. He's a notch below the elite and his biggest deficiency is defense.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 31 2007 5:42 PM]
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7/31/2007  5:39 PM
If you just call them "Post Players" then you get basically the same list. Its getting more respectable, but Duncan gives them a big edge.
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7/31/2007  7:11 PM
82 games is a joke. They often list guys by heights not who actually played what position.
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