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How many People Think Fixing Has Gone On Since The Jordan Era


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playa2
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A lot of people already thought the nba was fixed but now that it has actually been proven to be fixed, who will want to watch the nba except for hardcore basketball fans ?
For Sure
Never
I always had a hunch but didn't know for sure
Yea all major sports had the fix at times
I was truly blinded, never wanted to believe it to be true
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Silverfuel
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7/23/2007  7:22 AM
I'm sure that the Jordan era games (ie: he got the advantage more often than not) were fixed.
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VDesai
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7/23/2007  7:59 AM
A little bit of "for sure" and "yea all major sports had the fix," is my answer for this.
jazz74
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7/23/2007  8:34 AM
i suspect that throughout the jordan era. i even mentioned that to college friends who were jordan fans. they did not disagree. jordan had ticky tack fouls called on him constantly and charles smith was fouled throughout the play, but that is still not an excuse for him, to take it up strong. we had some beneficial calls too when we were doing our thuggery in the oakley/mason days. plus they shouldn't have called a foul on pippen when he touched hubert davis so it goes both ways.
VDesai
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7/23/2007  8:35 AM
Posted by jazz74:

i suspect that throughout the jordan era. i even mentioned that to college friends who were jordan fans. they did not disagree. jordan had ticky tack fouls called on him constantly and charles smith was fouled throughout the play, but that is still not an excuse for him, to take it up strong. we had some beneficial calls too when we were doing our thuggery in the oakley/mason days. plus they shouldn't have called a foul on pippen when he touched hubert davis so it goes both ways.


I have always maintained that the Hubert Davis call was a makeup call for Smith the previous year.
playa2
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7/23/2007  12:39 PM
Who are the people who said never, I would love to hear your explanation.
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Nalod
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7/23/2007  1:05 PM
Never thought about it in terms of fixing for gambling.

I thought Jordan was elevated as its was good for the NBA.

I thought Smith not getting fouled was the refs not making a call to change the outcome of a game. We see this more than not.
kam77
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7/23/2007  1:07 PM
It hasn't been proven to be fixed. This is lazy reasoning.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
kam77
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7/23/2007  1:11 PM
First off...

This is ONE referee acting independently. Not league-sanctioned.
Lets find out what Donaghy did...

Was it fixing it so more fouls were called (on both teams) to affect the over/under? If so... that doesn't point to fixing the outcome of games necessarily.

Let's not make reckless assumptions from one ref acting on his own to a league-wide conspiracy. Its too early and likely too off the mark.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
playa2
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7/23/2007  1:15 PM
when the mob is calling you with threats i believe you hold a pretty good juice card against them and many more.

that dallas miami finals game almost made me puke the officiating was so bogus.

[Edited by - playa2 on 23-07-2007 13:16]
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rmears718
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7/23/2007  3:11 PM
The fix was definitely in during the N Y Knicks & the Houston Rockets Final in 1994...And some wonder to do this day ...Why Pat Riley didn't pull a cold John Starks;when you had Rolando Blackman & Hubert Davis on the bench - who could not of done any worse!
kam77
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7/23/2007  3:15 PM
So its devolved into any personal grudge loss becoming a game that must've been fixed?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
Allanfan20
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7/23/2007  3:17 PM
What is fixxing? Refs making calls that favor teams (Whether the calls are good or not) or to raise or drown the score? Or telling teams to purposefully lose?

If refs are paying teams to lose or something like that, then I say NO, that did not happen. If refs made calls in order to change the score or to favor a team, then yes, I believe that happened.

I don't think teams would dare lose on purpose though, for gamblings sake. Maybe to get LeBron, but that's all, and that's kinda gambling too, when you think of it.
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PhilinLA
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7/23/2007  4:16 PM
I think it's been going on in hoops since before there was an NBA.
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Swishfm3
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7/23/2007  8:53 PM
Posted by kam77:

First off...

This is ONE referee acting independently. Not league-sanctioned.
Lets find out what Donaghy did...

Was it fixing it so more fouls were called (on both teams) to affect the over/under? If so... that doesn't point to fixing the outcome of games necessarily.

Let's not make reckless assumptions from one ref acting on his own to a league-wide conspiracy. Its too early and likely too off the mark.


regardless if it was one Ref or not, I hope this puts an END to the "superstar" treatment and start making the refs call the game, down the line, from start to finsih.
BasketballJones
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7/23/2007  8:55 PM
If the games weren't fixed the Knicks would've won like 25 championships already.
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djsunyc
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7/23/2007  8:57 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

If the games weren't fixed the Knicks would've won like 25 championships already.

i think isiah just made that his email signature.
Allanfan20
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7/23/2007  9:39 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by BasketballJones:

If the games weren't fixed the Knicks would've won like 25 championships already.

i think isiah just made that his email signature.

Ohhh God, I can totally see him using that excuse, time and time again.
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JohnWallace44
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7/23/2007  11:27 PM
There was a pressure back then not to call things like Jordan pushing off on Russell. There is also a momentum that the fans and the officials get caught up in when someone like Jordan is taking over a game, season, decade.
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How many People Think Fixing Has Gone On Since The Jordan Era

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