There is no doubt that Curry will be benefitted from the presence of Zach Randolph on the offensive end. Teams will be more reluctant to double him off Zach's man than they would of off of Frye's man.


Engineering 101:
However, when you analyze a situation and there are 2 causes and 1 cause is 98% of the reason why the situation exists, and the other cause is 2% of the reason why the situation exists you do not solve the problem by fixing the problem that is only 2% of the cause. The Zbo trade took care of the 2% problem, that is at least the part of the Zach that deals with the 1 of the other 4 players on the court with curry. However, even with Zach out there teams will still double off Zach's man cause Curry cannot pass out of the double team. And they certainly will be willing to double team off of the other players on the floor that are out there to compensate for Curry's and Zbo's lack of defense.

Curry can still not make the right pass out of the double team because he lacks the decision making skills to do so. He is a mental midget. He has gotten by on his pure size alone to get drafted so high and score on his own in the nba.

However, there is light at the end of the tunnel, because Isiah has made a move to another player that is much more dynamic than Curry, in Zbo. He can give us the rebounding, post scoring, and passing out of the post we need. And we can simply look to another complementary player to fix his problems, ie-defense. You see when have a player like Curry who can't rebound, play defense, pass out of double teams, block shots, you can't possible complement him, because he is too one-dimensional. However, in Zach we have a player that does enough. He can make other players better with his passes and create opportunities for them instead of simple chucks by jamal crawford after a bad pass out of a double team by Curry. Thus, he is possible to build around.

Teams will be reluctant to double Curry and Zach before they have the ball. They won't want to commit to doubling one, because the ball will just go to the other. The doubles will come after the entry pass and will be less effective.

I'm hoping for Nichols off a double screen of Zach & Curry- talk about space for a shooter!

Without looking at film- I think Curry got doubled because of two reasons

1 - he can't pass

2 - no one can shoot a 3

You're on the right track with your break down of the problem- but, your percents are wrong- 0% fixed by this deal, 100% still wrong.

Maybe Curry can pass to Zach easier than to a wing???

Posted by BigSm00th:

z-bo plays outside-in and can pass, so maybe he'll open it up for eddy.

certainly this helps the situation, saying z-bo coming hurts the situation is ludicrous in my opinion.

I don't think anyone said Zbo would hurt.

Curry and Zach combination is going to workout better than most people think. Curry and Zach aren't going to be shot blocking demons but they play decent man to man defense. They may be weak on the help defense but last year I saw Curry try to help out on number of occations its just that many time he is late because he doesn't see the play develop. But he was trying to get better at it and I think he will improve in that dept. Zach plays a different style than Curry I don't think people here realize how perimeter oriented Zach is. He doesn't alway have a need to be near the basket to get shots off. Where as Curry needs to be closer to the basket. The way I see it is think of Zach as a combination of Lee and Frye wrapped up into one player. Lee great around the basket and Frye being good at being away from the basket. Curry and Lee did quite well together and found out that they actually can have two guys hanging around the basket, that is how I know Zach just might work around Curry. Zach adds a jumper which can draw players away from Curry which also will benefit Curry. I really don't see how this combo of Curry and Zach won't work.

^ good post nixluva

Only way this works is if the first option is Zach since Zach can actually pass the ball. Set Zach in the high post and have Curry flash down low. Curry's big butt will just man handle everybody there and they can't leave Zach cause he will make you pay from 15ft with is array of driving, spinning and shooting skills.


Yeah baby! GO NY GO NY GO!

[Edited by - NYKBocker on 07-19-2007 10:31 AM]

nixluva - don't be surprised if Nichols gets some burn at two guard

I enjoyed his tenacity on defense.

Bear in mind the Summer Knicks ran Nate with essentially three forwards. Whichever one of them proves to be more valuable as a swingman could move into the rotation the quickest. Don't sleep on Green getting an invite to the Knicks camp, or somewhere else.

He is this Summers version of Matt Carroll

dj - damn excellent question. I've been pondering that since leaving UNLV

Here's the deal. Once again, that damn Marbury is the key.

If he decides to trust his new teammates and be an initiator, things could get interesting. Why? Because the skill-set is different. Where there were few options at skill forward - now there are three. The only one who is suspect on offense is Balkman. If you can swap three fluid dudes who are all 6'8, that is a different mix to play with.

Nate had some rough spots at the point, but once he learned what guys could do and made the adjustment, his assists went up. Marbury could take notes and do the same with the new wingmen.

Now, when (not if) Marbury is slowed by the inevitable nagging injury, THIS is when the fun starts as the next-in-line lead guard gets the opportunity to learn on the job.

Whether it is Nate, Mardy, the next unexpected acquisition or even Fred Jones.. the Knicks will be be redefined right before our disbelievin' eyes.

I watched Mark Aguirre pace the sidelines, even though he was not on the bench. I get the sense that he, not Herb, is being groomed for the head coach position.

If there are any clues to how the Knicks can play, just hop in the Way Back Machine and remember the versatility of the championship Pistons squads. They were neither half-court or fast break. But they could play both ways effectively.

My Spider Sense tells me Zeke is crafting this roster in the image of the teams he won a ring with.

If you squint really, really hard, instead of Mahorn and Laimbeer you just might see Curry and Randolph.

whachoo think?

Let's get one thing straight, Steph has NEVER had trouble playing with shooters. He's not really had a lot of squads that had good shooting, but when the Knicks had KVH, KT, H2O & KT, he was having double digit assists and even after the trade he ended his time with the Knicks with 9.3 asts. I think he's MORE than willing and capable of setting up teammates. IMO he's been miscast for much of his career. He would've been very effective with a team that had a post threat and a lot of good spot up shooters. Much like their doing in Tor. His penetration and dish game would've been enhanced.

So for this team I think he'll be fine. We don't have much longer to be worried about that since it looks like he's winding down his career anyway. I think Jamal, Nate and Mardy will also be more than happy to make the right passes.

Anji, I think you're underestimating Zach. He's also learning to read and pass. We're getting him at a good time in his development. Isiah is gonna make sure that Zach and Curry realize what they have to do in terms of passing. Isiah KNOWS how the game should be played and I wish that more of us would recognize that. If you can imagine how his mind works as a former PG and student under Daley and Knight, you can imagine that he is well aware of how the game is won.