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If Q is healthy, should Jamal start at SG?
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Silverfuel
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7/18/2007  8:54 AM
If Q is healthy, there is no reason Jamal Crawford should start at the 2 next season. It completely messes up our starting 5. I think we need Balkman or Lee to start at SF next to Eddy and Zach. We need a hustle guy in the front line that can kind of defend.

Jamal fits in perfectly with the second team of Lee, nate and the rookies. If Jamal starts at SG and Q start at SF, Lee and Balkman both come off the bench which means our second unit is mostly hustle and our first unit barely hustles. Jamal coming off the bench solves that problem. Our starting 5 looks like this:

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Balkman
Q
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7/18/2007  9:06 AM
I agree with you. NOt a lot of consistent shooting in that line-up, but Jamal isn't going ot alleviate that. You can play Jamal at the two and Q and that gives us more shooting but I have a hard time understanding what advantages it gives us over the better teams in the league. Plus you only have one defender. But with Balkman at the 3 and Q at the 2, that line-up can really pound it inside on offense and probably is the league's best rebounding team. You have 2 solid perimeter defenders, one okay one.

I also agree that Jamal would be a good fit for the uptempo offensively challenged second unit.
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7/18/2007  9:07 AM
So, I think the bigger question is... does Isiah share the same vision? Who is our starting SF? Jared Jeffries, Q, Lee, Balkman? Based on last year, I think Jeffries or Q is starting at SF. If Jeffries is the SF, then I think Q starts at SG. If Q starts at SF, I think Craw starts at SG.

This is not the way I want it, just how I think it will go. Personally, my preference is Balkman starting at the 3 and Q starting at the 2. Lee and Craw are two great guys to have off the bench.
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7/18/2007  9:10 AM
Personally, I think Q and Jeffries will be starting.
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7/18/2007  9:11 AM
Balkman and JJ2 are similar players but Balkman is clearly better. I really hope Isiah doesn't go in that direction. JJ2 was another desperation move for an okay player that really should not be in the starting line-up. Energy off the bench, yes. But as a starter it doesn't make sense.

The summer league team didn't need 6 months to gel because they were balanced. Guys just fell into their roles. On our team, because we aren't balanced we are going to have to put guys into roles once again that they will be playing for the first times in their lives. Because of that we are going to have to try to find a strength and make teams adjust to it. Instead of trying to adjust to everyone else and play line-up shufffle like we have for the past 7 years.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 18-07-2007 09:12 AM]
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7/18/2007  9:13 AM

This is a no-brainer. Start Q. He's omnipotent.

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7/18/2007  9:14 AM
Don't forget that Jamal works great with Curry, so keep them both in the lineup.
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7/18/2007  9:18 AM
I think Crawford should start at PG alongside Q with Marbury off the bench.

That isn't happening.

Could Crawford start for another team?
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7/18/2007  9:19 AM
He's worked great with Curry for 2 years and we have won 23 and 33 games. It's because they work great together on the offensive end, but are nightmares together on the defensive end.

It's great that they work together well. And I do agree that they should be on the court together at times to take advantage of this, but we are talking starting line-ups right now. WE need to get off to a good start in games. It has killed us for 3 years. I think starting the games with one or no perimeter defenders and no shotblocking is a recipe for poor starts no matter how well Jamal and Curry work together. At some point D has to become a priority.
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7/18/2007  9:20 AM
No Jamal means no passing to the rim for that lineup.

Teams can front Curry and Zach all day long.
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7/18/2007  9:21 AM
Crawford is good off the bench, especially for times when we have slow starts. He can be instant offense off the bench, plus it shouldn't matter to him whether he starts or not. Most of the time, he will be in the game when it counts, similar to Lee.
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7/18/2007  2:06 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

If Q is healthy, there is no reason Jamal Crawford should start at the 2 next season. It completely messes up our starting 5. I think we need Balkman or Lee to start at SF next to Eddy and Zach. We need a hustle guy in the front line that can kind of defend.

Jamal fits in perfectly with the second team of Lee, nate and the rookies. If Jamal starts at SG and Q start at SF, Lee and Balkman both come off the bench which means our second unit is mostly hustle and our first unit barely hustles. Jamal coming off the bench solves that problem. Our starting 5 looks like this:

Eddy
Zach
Balkman
Q
Steph

Cosigned. I've been saying this since the season ended. JC off the bench, Q at the SG. Please. Much more balanced. At least until we can get a RELIABLE shooter.

I wouldn't even mind JC at the point, and Marbury off the bench, but I don't like JC starting at the SG.
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7/18/2007  2:16 PM
i think Q should be starting to add a little defense on the perimeter... the 1st unit is more of a half court lineup anyway, which suits Q's game more than it does Jamal's IMO.

curious to see what MS thinks on the topic.
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7/18/2007  2:16 PM
I'm going to agree with Franco, even though I know it wont happen. Have Marbury come off the bench for many many reasons:

1) Even though it's still not a great option, Crawford is better defending the 1 than Marbury is and Q is better defending the 2.

2) Marbury, with his own words, proved he is willing to take a complete backseat to Curry and Randolf, which to me, is a severe warning sign. He says he wants to get his 12 assists, but how is he gonna do that if Randolf and Curry are one on one players, and Marbury is not a great post/backdoor feeder, while Crawford is solid at that aspect. Therefore, we have one lone perimeter player who's willing to be aggresive on the offensive end and is worthy of starting, and that's Crawford. Nate is good off the bench as well and so is Mardy.

3) I can just see Marbury coming to camp out of shape with this sneaker/Starbury thing, and becoming even more injury prone. How is he going to survive these starting minutes? It's hard to fathom. I guess the fact that he's been built like a pit bull all this time, but it can only take you so far if you start losing your commitment.
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7/18/2007  2:21 PM
Crawford has never played defense in his entire night, he is always getting lit up, and his shot is a lot more suspect than marburys for the sheer fact that he never sets himself.

Marbury is the better player is just about every aspect of the game. It's really frightening that Isiah is going to start Crawford, Curry and Zach together i reall don't think you will find three worse defenders at their position not to mention all three are high turnover players. If you want to keep q at the three and collins at the two it makes a lot more sense because then you can play crawford with lee and balkman off the bench and have him run the point, thats the most effective option for this team if they want to go uptempo
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7/18/2007  2:23 PM
Posted by MS:

Crawford has never played defense in his entire night, he is always getting lit up, and his shot is a lot more suspect than marburys for the sheer fact that he never sets himself.

Marbury is the better player is just about every aspect of the game. It's really frightening that Isiah is going to start Crawford, Curry and Zach together i reall don't think you will find three worse defenders at their position not to mention all three are high turnover players. If you want to keep q at the three and collins at the two it makes a lot more sense because then you can play crawford with lee and balkman off the bench and have him run the point, thats the most effective option for this team if they want to go uptempo

I'm surprised there was no mention of anyone being on drugs? What happened? Is this the real MS?
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7/18/2007  2:28 PM
If you can explain Marbury's interview on Mike'up without believing he was on drugs your a genius and should take over as the guys publicist
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7/18/2007  2:31 PM
Posted by MS:

If you can explain Marbury's interview on Mike'up without believing he was on drugs your a genius and should take over as the guys publicist

Sweet!! That's what the crowd has been waiting for!

Actually I'm just busting your chops. Lately I've noticed you accusing a lot of posters of being on drugs in responses (hostile!). Even though they clearly are, I still find it funny.
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