He is a legit 6-9 with a 7-5 wingspan and a 41 inch vertcial leap. He can put his hand 4 FEET over the basket. His final stats from last year are 27 points 16 rebounds 11 blocks 6 assits. yes I know is body is not physically matureenough -but neither was tracy -kobe et al when they came in. For once let the Knicks take the cake.We havent had a true 3 in 20 years. This kid's physical abilities have franchise player written all over him. I know we need size this that and the other thing, I know that--but we are not winning the championship next year. Lets leverage the pick--were at 9 and its unlikely the kid will go before 9. even if it's a bit of a reach I dont care. i think he is going to be a special player. I see shawn Marion part 2 here.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was around when the Knicks pick again in the second round...
In any case, A players physical statue is the least of my worries...that's probably the easiest thing to fix so long as the player is commited. The Knicks need a 3 & 5. If they can get Outlaw to play the three..then GREAT!

Posted by tkf:

I like this kid, and it sounds like he is a physical freak, the same things I noticed about Amare Stoudamire, there are good athletes, there are great atheletes and then there are Freaks, the guys like Mcgrady, Stoudamire, Kobe, Vince, the guys who have the ability to be superstars, this kid is not one dimensional, and he is young, I say the knicks should draft him, let him marinate a little bit, and bam we may have a star on our hands...

pick him in the second round if he's there.

I don't think Travis could all of a sudden be that good because I agree with Rain....the kid was a non-factor at the McDonalds game.

He could be good but his body looks like its way under developed.

Drafting him at 9 a reach? I dunno because there are a fleet of guys available that could go anywhere from 9 to 50. With the way the Knicks roster looks it would make sense to draft a high schooler....

I don't really have an opinion on Outlaw. I just hope the Knicks make the right decision for once and draft the best guy available at 9. I think workouts will playa big part.

Charlie Villenuava(sp) is the big hype on another board....i guess Outlaw is the big hype on this one.

I think Shawn Marion is a good comparison. Remember Shawn Marion was 6-5 185 when he went to JC and transfered to UNLV 2 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier. Darius Miles doesn't have the same type of athletic ability and remeber Miles went 3rd or 4th in the draft.

This would be an investment draft pick. Im looking at this kid with 20 pounds of muscle on his frame two years from now. If he goes to school--in time he becomes a top 5 pickIMHO EZ.


What i want the Knicks to do is trade down with memphis and give them picks 9, 31, 39 +Knight for Stromile Swift and the 13. Stromile on our team would get 40 minutes and would help the team more than ANY draft pick. Im not interested in any more foreign players--we busted on one and we have no idea about the other----Im not thrilled with anyone that much. I would rather have Stromile than Sweetney or Collison and I cant think of one guy in thedraft who would be a better prospect than Outlaw physically. Ebi is a BETTER basketball player -but I do think he will go around 20.in this draft I dont see Outlaw dropping past 16 at the MOST. You have three teams with multiple picks. You have a team like GS @ 11 that is stacked if they resign Arenas which opens the possibility of anything happening there.


In this draft Lang,Perkins, Ebi and Outlaw are ALLgoing 1st round.i think it is possible Villanueva slips back into the 35 area of the 2nd round.

briggs: I do like stromile and he can help the knicks and if we have the 9 pick then trading down is not that bad of an idea, stromile and a guy like Outlaw will really help the knicks now and in the future and I agree, i am getting tired of this foreing hype. These guys are drafted, some are way overrated and others like milos play the " I am not ready to come over yet " game..

As far as miles go the kid is as athletic as marion, and that is a good comparison but playing in cleveland has hurt his growth, his main problem is his jumper but remember guys like Jason Kidd, Marion, and even T-Mac earlier in their careers struggled with Jumpers, Miles on the right team will be a fine player.....

[Edited by - tkf on 05/14/2003 13:36:33]

Shawn Marion was6-5 185 when he went to junior college. he didnt transfer to UNLV until he was 20. Like i said this kid is an investment.You dont find 6-9 guys with a 7-5 wingspan and a 41 inch vertical growing on trees. He needs time to develop. If we can trade down pick up a solid NOW player and draft this guy--I think that s a solid equation. I dont see ANY rookie commanding time if Mcdyess comes back at even 75% unless we draft Kaman. I like Sweetney a lot-butafter some thought I doubt the Knicks pick him--although it would be a good draft to me if they did.

OUTLAW or VILLANEVAU ????

SWISH i heard nothing but praise about that HOUSTON highschool kid !!! i forgot his name !!! u know who i'm talking about !!

PIKE, lol.... BO OUTLAW !! lol...