Harris still isn't as bad as I SAY UGH but he's gaining on him.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-14-2007 9:33 PM]

Posted by crzymdups:

waitaminute, the Bucks had caproom and lotto picks - that's a surefire recipe to rebuild!

as for Harris, he'd have to do some good things to improve his rating to "horrible" - dude is sub-horrible at the moment.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 14-07-2007 4:50 PM]

You have to make the right decisions when you have those things at your disposal.

The bottom line is that the Bucks are a small market club, and frankly, not many want to go to Milwaukee. For that team, a championship is the last thing on their mind, they just want playoffs, hope to have players who will stay, and want to make some money.

They've made bad decisions, but consider some of the decisions as a GM in much of a different scenario than ours. If he was a NY GM and made those moves he would be as bad as Layden and Isiah. In Milwaukee, where you overpay for a few players because you don't believe you can get a player to stay without overpaying... the moves are still questionable, but not quite as bad in that light.

But, overall, yes, he's done a poor job. I won't kill him for the Michael Redd signing, only because that's the only guy close to a superstar who would even consider playing in Milwaukee. Mo Williams and Bobby Simmons for $100 million is terrible. I don't know what he was thinking with those.

Posted by Solace:

The bottom line is that the Bucks are a small market club, and frankly, not many want to go to Milwaukee. For that team, a championship is the last thing on their mind, they just want playoffs, hope to have players who will stay, and want to make some money.

They've made bad decisions, but consider some of the decisions as a GM in much of a different scenario than ours. If he was a NY GM and made those moves he would be as bad as Layden and Isiah. In Milwaukee, where you overpay for a few players because you don't believe you can get a player to stay without overpaying... the moves are still questionable, but not quite as bad in that light.

But, overall, yes, he's done a poor job. I won't kill him for the Michael Redd signing, only because that's the only guy close to a superstar who would even consider playing in Milwaukee. Mo Williams and Bobby Simmons for $100 million is terrible. I don't know what he was thinking with those.

I agree with your assessment of their predicament but he's made some awful moves. The Mo Williams deal just cracks me up. Harris initially offered him 5yrs $39mil and then bumped it up to $42mil once he caught wind he might want to bolt to Miami for less. Miami's offer was just over $10mil less than their offer. Miami was the only team chasing him and besides Charlotte no other team had cap space to offer him a better deal than the MLE. Classic case of baiting them. Then Mo and his agent threaten to suggest a S&T to bolt to Miami, then they up their offer another $10mil to $52mil and add another yr to the deal. Textbook bidding against yourself.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-14-2007 9:48 PM]

This thread was created by someone who is known around the board as a knicks basher.

Sometimes people feel like talking about other teams situations after spending so much time talking about Knicks.

Just because the Knicks have made bad decisions doesn't mean we have to kiss every other teams ass either and give them all the excuses in the world.

With that said I like what Philly has been doing. DalembertC, HunterPF, IggySF was a very effective frontcourt for Philly defensivly during the last 3months. They had the elements you look for in a strong defensive frontcourt. They bring in Young who is said to have great defensive potential on Yahoo scouting report. While Jason Smith might give them a little post presence. Dalembert, Hunter, Smith, Young, Iggy, Korver, Miller, Green. There is very good balance in skills in that rotation. Strong defensive frontcourt, all around future star in Iggy, pure outside shooting threat in Korver, Floor General and playmaker in Miller, spark plug instant offense in Green, inside scorer in Smith. Young can possibly develop into a good defender at SF & PF and all around forward with an inside outside game.

They should stay away from big money FAs unless its on the Lebron, Kobe or Garnett calibre. Continue to draft well and focus on the draft and find a Carlos Boozer type.

Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Being One Horrible GM


Michael Redd received a 6yr $90mil contract(One-Way)

Bobby Simmons received a 5yr $47mil contract(One Hit Wonder)

Dan Gadzurich received a 6yr $36mil contract(No-Way)

Mo Williams is receiving a 6yr $52mil contract(Overrated One-Way)


All of those players are either a One-Way Player, No-Way Player, Overrated Player, or One Hit Wonder Player.


and then here are some notable bombs IMO


July 8 2005
Named Terry Stotts head coach.

October 26 2005
Traded guard Desmond Mason, a 2006 first-round pick(Hilton Armtstrong) and cash to the New Orleans Hornets for center Jamaal Magloire. Turned Magloire into trash

Draft 2005
Selected center Andrew Bogut (1st overall pick) Probably won't be a Top 5 player from his own draft

June 30 2006
Traded guard TJ Ford and cash to the Toronto Raptors for forward Charlie Villanueva.

July 31 2006
Traded center Jamaal Magloire to the Portland Trail Blazers for guard Steve Blake, forward Brian Skinner and center Ha Seung-Jin.

January 11 2007
Traded guard Steve Blake to the Denver Nuggets for guards Earl Boykins and Julius Hodge and cash.

Draft 2007
Selected forward Yi Jianlian (6th overall pick) At least at the moment this pick isn't looking good

The first mistake.....and probably the worst one....that he made was to get rid of Terry Porter.

[Edited by - junkmein on 07-15-2007 07:01 AM]

Hence why Terry Stotts was hired but yes you could couple that together. This thread wasn't created to deviate from I SAY UGH he's the KING OF ALL KINGS of NITWITTED GM'S, but Harris is a NITWITTED PRINCE of this KINGDOM.

and Villanueva is on his way to a Tim Thomas like career (one part talent, two parts lazy, three parts injury prone).

The NBA manufactures bad GM's. You get a player signed to a big deal, he has zero motivation to play hard... you have no recourse.

Baron Davis a few years ago played some of the worst basketball I have ever seen, just dribbling out the shot clock posession after posession and what can you say to him? Nothing. You can't cut him, can't bench him, nothing.

Think Jerome James would run a couple of laps if he thought he could get cut? I think he might take a twinkie or two off.

I think the level of play in the league would go way up if GM's could void even a little of a contract when players stop being effective.

There should be a rule that only half of a players contract is guaranteed or something like that.