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7/8/2007  8:38 PM
Quick I SAY UGH get on the horn in Mike's ear and work some kind of S&T since our future cap doesn't matter.


http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/morrison_6796___article.html/bobcats_play.html

Charlotte acquired Jason Richardson (and $51 million in salary commitments) last week. This week, the Bobcats and Matt Carroll agreed in principle on a $27 million deal. And those around the Bobcats expect to re-sign Gerald Wallace very soon to a contract worth more than $60 million.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-08-2007 7:40 PM]
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7/8/2007  8:40 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Quick I SAY UGH get on the horn in Mike's ear and work some kind of S&T since our future cap doesn't matter.


http://www.gastongazette.com/sports/morrison_6796___article.html/bobcats_play.html

Charlotte acquired Jason Richardson (and $51 million in salary commitments) last week. This week, the Bobcats and Matt Carroll agreed in principle on a $27 million deal. And those around the Bobcats expect to re-sign Gerald Wallace very soon to a contract worth more than $60 million.

Yes. ASAP. Wallace is the perfect fit for our defensive challenged front line.
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7/8/2007  8:46 PM
This is going to be worst then the Ra shard Lewis signing if he gets 60 million plus.



LOL, Isiah better not pick that phone.......
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7/8/2007  8:46 PM
The Knicks should really make a major push to acquire Wallace. Jordan has a major hard-on for Crawford stemming from the Chicago pick-up games, so off Crawford + something else to get Wallace. Then, make a push to get Artest.

Our interior defense might suck donkey balls, but why does our perimeter defense also got to bend over
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7/8/2007  8:51 PM
If you're not serious about having reasonable salaries (which I think would be a mistake), then as might as well get the best players you can. Wallace would fit perfectly. I get the impression it's only Knick fans, not Isiah or Dolan, who are interested in G. Wallace. All the media reports have Isiah focusing on Artest.
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7/8/2007  8:56 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

The Knicks should really make a major push to acquire Wallace. Jordan has a major hard-on for Crawford stemming from the Chicago pick-up games, so off Crawford + something else to get Wallace. Then, make a push to get Artest.

Our interior defense might suck donkey balls, but why does our perimeter defense also got to bend over


Yeah but then that would mean accompanying Crawford will be 2 unprotected first rounders and the deal would surpass $60mil. It would probably finalize to be about a 6yr $70mil deal.


He needs to act quickly this may be too good of an opportunity to pass up.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-08-2007 7:57 PM]
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7/8/2007  9:05 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

The Knicks should really make a major push to acquire Wallace. Jordan has a major hard-on for Crawford stemming from the Chicago pick-up games, so off Crawford + something else to get Wallace. Then, make a push to get Artest.

Our interior defense might suck donkey balls, but why does our perimeter defense also got to bend over


Yeah but then that would mean accompanying Crawford will be 2 unprotected first rounders and the deal would surpass $60mil. It would probably finalize to be about a 6yr $70mil deal.


He needs to act quickly this may be too good of an opportunity to pass up.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-08-2007 7:57 PM]

they just traded for J-Rich and resigned Matt Carroll long term. why would he do Wallace for Craword?
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7/8/2007  9:15 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

The Knicks should really make a major push to acquire Wallace. Jordan has a major hard-on for Crawford stemming from the Chicago pick-up games, so off Crawford + something else to get Wallace. Then, make a push to get Artest.

Our interior defense might suck donkey balls, but why does our perimeter defense also got to bend over


Yeah but then that would mean accompanying Crawford will be 2 unprotected first rounders and the deal would surpass $60mil. It would probably finalize to be about a 6yr $70mil deal.


He needs to act quickly this may be too good of an opportunity to pass up.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 07-08-2007 7:57 PM]

they just traded for J-Rich and resigned Matt Carroll long term. why would he do Wallace for Craword?



Because he does admire Crawford's game although if a S&T were to transpire I'm not sure if Crawford would be who Jordan truly wants. Jordan would ask for Lee and I SAY UGH doesn't appear to want to involve him in any trades.
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7/8/2007  9:31 PM
I like Wallace but for $60 million, we might be better off seeing if Balkman improves his offense or Chandler can turn into the player IT presumes he can become. That being said, if the deal is 6/$60 million, that is not that bad when you consider how much guys like Hughes make.
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7/8/2007  9:35 PM
We have to let our SF's develop. I think Nichols will emerge out of the group not just because he has the potential to defend and to be the best shooter of the group, but I think he'll be the best fit with Curry, Zach, Marbs and anyone else on the court.

Maybe we should trade our expirings for a larger expiring - like Ricky Davis

This could be interesting if the C's are motivated to get rid of the cousin from Coney Island

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7/8/2007  9:41 PM
I like Wallace a lot. I think he may be a better risk than Artest but we would have to give up a lot more for him.

I still think the Bobcats need some back-court depth, so if you give Mikey a package of Nate and Jamal and take back a bad contract such as Othella's deal...Maybe something like Jamal, Nate, and Dickau or Jones for Othella and Wallace.
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7/8/2007  9:46 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

We have to let our SF's develop. I think Nichols will emerge out of the group not just because he has the potential to defend and to be the best shooter of the group, but I think he'll be the best fit with Curry, Zach, Marbs and anyone else on the court.

Maybe we should trade our expirings for a larger expiring - like Ricky Davis

This could be interesting if the C's are motivated to get rid of the cousin from Coney Island

Outgoing
Theo Ratliff
6-10 C from Wyoming
2.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.0 apg in 21.5 minutes
Sebastian Telfair
6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
6.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.3 minutes
Incoming
Jared Jeffries
6-11 SF from Indiana
4.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.8 minutes
Fred Jones
6-2 SG from Oregon
6.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 20.9 minutes
Dan Dickau
6-0 PG from Gonzaga
3.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 1.4 apg in 9.0 minutes
Randolph Morris
6-11 C from Kentucky
0.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 8.6 minutes

Joe. . . Ricky Davis would be a good guy for IT to target. He would not cost that much and would bring a ton of offense and solid defense (not great but also not terrible). He might be a short term fix to our SG problem.
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7/8/2007  9:52 PM
$60+ Million for Gerald Wallace? That's too much. Terrible move for the Bobcats, who could've had nice cap room to sign actual stars if they weren't wasting that very cap room very now.

For the Knicks it's different. They can overpay dollars-wise, since we don't respect the cap... but I wouldn't give up the farm for Gerald Wallace. Certainly, David Lee in trade is not even up for negotiation.

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7/8/2007  10:00 PM
I just think that if we're building a championship team around a post rotation of Curry, Zach and Lee, the wing players, all of three of them, have to be defenders and 3-point shooters... good 3-point shooters.

Wallace is athletic, a good defender but not an above average shooter, especially considering what we'd pay for him.

We have Q..., Nichols fits that mold, and Marbs. Collins can shoot the mid-range, he's fine with that as he develops his outside shot considering his salary.

Craw and Nate have to get better on D, Jeff and Balkman have to get better as shooters. Chandler is a wildcard.

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7/8/2007  10:01 PM
The Knicks are actually in a good spot cuz they don't HAVE to do anything, but they have some options to improve the team via trade if they get the right deal. If not I believe isiah will stand pat and not give up a lot in any deal. I've always liked Wallace. I wanted him back when he was still in Sac. The thing is that we have some prospects that may give us most of what he does and for cheap. I see no reason to make a deal for him. His brittle body is another issue that concerns me.
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7/8/2007  10:08 PM
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

We have to let our SF's develop. I think Nichols will emerge out of the group not just because he has the potential to defend and to be the best shooter of the group, but I think he'll be the best fit with Curry, Zach, Marbs and anyone else on the court.

Maybe we should trade our expirings for a larger expiring - like Ricky Davis

This could be interesting if the C's are motivated to get rid of the cousin from Coney Island

Outgoing
Theo Ratliff
6-10 C from Wyoming
2.5 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.0 apg in 21.5 minutes
Sebastian Telfair
6-0 PG from Abraham Lincoln (HS)
6.1 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 2.8 apg in 20.3 minutes
Incoming
Jared Jeffries
6-11 SF from Indiana
4.0 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.8 minutes
Fred Jones
6-2 SG from Oregon
6.5 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 20.9 minutes
Dan Dickau
6-0 PG from Gonzaga
3.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 1.4 apg in 9.0 minutes
Randolph Morris
6-11 C from Kentucky
0.8 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.2 apg in 8.6 minutes

Joe. . . Ricky Davis would be a good guy for IT to target. He would not cost that much and would bring a ton of offense and solid defense (not great but also not terrible). He might be a short term fix to our SG problem.

Eh....Ricky worries me more than anyone. At least with Artest or even a Wallace(brittle body?) we know what we are dealing with. Ricky was shipped out of Boston and Cleveland for the express purpose of keeping him away from their young players. ANd we never heard a word of what actually went on.
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7/8/2007  10:28 PM
what about J-Will?
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7/8/2007  11:16 PM
Posted by TheGame:

I like Wallace but for $60 million, we might be better off seeing if Balkman improves his offense or Chandler can turn into the player IT presumes he can become. That being said, if the deal is 6/$60 million, that is not that bad when you consider how much guys like Hughes make.


Isn't there a 5 year limit for new nba contracts?
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7/8/2007  11:17 PM
Posted by Ira:
Posted by TheGame:

I like Wallace but for $60 million, we might be better off seeing if Balkman improves his offense or Chandler can turn into the player IT presumes he can become. That being said, if the deal is 6/$60 million, that is not that bad when you consider how much guys like Hughes make.


Isn't there a 5 year limit for new nba contracts?

Its 6 if you can do a sign and trade
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7/9/2007  3:17 AM
Wallace is more of an injury risk then Q. If the Bobcats pay 5/60, that's not a good deal. Wallace is a great defender, but loses value due to the amount of games he plays.
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