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djsunyc
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6/4/2007  1:41 PM
these are some spoilers (unconfirmed of course) of what may possibly go down next week:

1. carmela and meadow die in a car bomb (which was meant for tony)

2. aj survives (the preview has a scene of aj looking in horror as a bright flash of light comes up)

3. aj rejoins tony and there's a major shootout, with paulie dying and aj eventually killing phil

another spoiler i read says that artie bucco finds out tony slept with his wife back in the day and then flips out and kills tony and then kills himself.
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6/4/2007  2:01 PM
I've been thinking for some time that Paulie was playing both sides. Wouldn't shock me to see Paulie kill Tony or at least set him up to get killed by Phil and crew.....
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6/4/2007  2:09 PM
If AJ survives the finale, I'll be extremely annoyed.

I've never wanted someone to get popped on that show as much as I do him.

For a second there last night, I thought Tony was going to do it. That would have been awesome.

After that lame botched attempt at Phil, I wanted NY to wipe out Jersey. That was just pathetic. You're going to go after a Boss with 2 FOB's from Italy who could care less? That's the best they could do? They all deserve to get popped.
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6/4/2007  2:48 PM
i took a sopranos class in h.s.
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6/4/2007  3:25 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

these are some spoilers (unconfirmed of course) of what may possibly go down next week:

1. carmela and meadow die in a car bomb (which was meant for tony)

2. aj survives (the preview has a scene of aj looking in horror as a bright flash of light comes up)

3. aj rejoins tony and there's a major shootout, with paulie dying and aj eventually killing phil

another spoiler i read says that artie bucco finds out tony slept with his wife back in the day and then flips out and kills tony and then kills himself.

1. Too Godfather like. Michal loses his first wife in car bomb and loses daughter to bullet intended for him. Maybe a tribute ending, but I doubt it.

2. Aj lives. Who cares either way.

3. Paulie I think is too loyal to Soprano, has no famlily of his own, and a few weeks ago he questioned "how will I do when its time for me to step up". Was that in reference to being plucked by the FBI as he was suseptable as he was not earning?

With Sill, Bobby and Chris all gone it would seem silly to leave it all to the new prognastocator "Phill".

Does Carmine Jr. play a roll in all of this and finally step in and take over? Does Tony survive and walk way? Walk to the FBI as there is no love for any one left? Does Janice Do in Tony thinking he was to blame for Bobby? Thus the Soprano women reign supreme above all?

Does Isiah, after wacking Larry, Lenny, and the Don survive as head of the family? Can PaulieBury run the team next year, or doe CrawFerinni get made with Mad Mardy? Can Little Eddy hold the post while Fat Lee get starter minutes? Does Channing go for Johnny Cakes? Does AJ Nate grow up? Can Little Stevie Francis stay on the books? Can BalkAtelli get Traded?

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6/5/2007  1:20 PM
another "teaser":
it's good to have an uncle as a higher up at hbo.

i won't ruin the end for anyone but let me just tell you, you will be floored at how it ends. i NEVER thought that the producers would have that go down on the show (the way it ends--very un-sopranos and instead 24 like). i was also happy that the big bang happened only halfway through the finale and they still had about 20 minutes of followup following the plot ending.

let me say i think this season has been up and down but i can guarantee nobody who has been a fan of the sopranos will be let down...at all.

it's a very "holy sh%t" ending.

big bang? 24 like? does that mean the terrorist theme hinted throughout the entire season comes into play and ny gets hit with an explosion?
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6/5/2007  1:29 PM
With the Sopranos ending can HBO pick up "The Black Donnellys"? I heard Cuban picked it up but cablevision doesn't have HDnet.
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6/7/2007  7:23 PM
Therapists become bad guys on 'Sopranos'
POSTED: 9:56 a.m. EDT, June 6, 2007


NEW YORK (AP) -- Therapists, we've long known, are among the biggest fans of "The Sopranos."

So pleased were they with the credible therapy scenes between Tony Soprano, pop culture's most famous mobster/patient, and the appealing Dr. Jennifer Melfi, played by Lorraine Bracco, that the American Psychoanalytical Association once gave the show and Bracco an award.
But professionally speaking, they could only scratch their heads at the latest developments on HBO's hit drama, which aired its penultimate episode last weekend.

Just as the life of Tony Soprano, played by James Gandolfini, seemed to be imploding with dangerous speed -- in short, just when he needed some really good therapy -- Melfi and her own therapist made some highly questionable moves.

Not only therapists were distressed. Some patients were actually furious when they showed up for appointments this week, one New York psychoanalyst said.

"You wouldn't believe the outrage I am hearing," said Dr. Arnold Richards, who'd missed the episode, but was filled in by his patients. He was talking about a serious ethical lapse by Elliot Kupferberg, played by Peter Bogdanovich, at a dinner party full of therapists. Across the crowded table, the character callously revealed -- over Melfi's protests -- the identity of her star patient.

"Mind-boggling," pronounced Richards. "I do not recall ever being told the name of a patient in treatment."

Colleagues agreed. "That dinner party was just very upsetting to me," said Dr. Joseph Annibali, a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst in McLean, Virginia. "What he did was outrageous. He's never had control of himself, and this just fits in with that."

Why did Kupferberg commit such a sin? He didn't think Melfi should be treating Tony, whom he considered a manipulative psychopath. Be that as it may, his disclosure was "a very egregious ethical violation," said Dr. Jan Van Schaik, chair of the Ethics Committee at the Wisconsin Psychoanalytic Institute.

"A patient needs to know that what gets said in the doctor's office stays there," said Van Schaik, who's never witnessed such a violation. "I've been at gatherings where people talk about patients in a more disguised form. Even that can be inappropriate. A good therapist should do the best they can to protect the anonymity of patients."

It's a shame, Van Schaik added, because "prior to Sunday's episode, 'The Sopranos' was the best portrayal in the popular media of a therapist-patient relationship." Annibali agreed: "We're so used to seeing therapists presented as incompetent hacks. Or as people who are more disturbed than their patients!"

What's been nice about Melfi, the Virginia therapist explained, is that she's a complex and caring figure -- she's not ideal, but she tries to help Tony even as she struggles with the idea of treating him.
That is, until this last episode, when she ... dumped him.

"We're making progress," Tony protested, genuinely shocked. "It's been seven years!" But Melfi had reluctantly read a study, brought to her attention by Kupferberg, claiming that therapy doesn't actually help sociopaths -- it further enables their bad behavior by sharpening their manipulative skills. Demoralized, guilt-ridden and almost speechless with hostility, Melfi literally showed Tony the door.

A tidbit that had some therapists buzzing this week: it turns out the study is a real one -- albeit hardly new -- from authors Samuel Yochelson and Stanton Samenow, psychiatrists specializing in the criminal mind. But the way the fictional Melfi shoved aside her patient was anything but real, therapists said.

"You don't just drop a patient like a hot potato, even if you conclude they aren't responding to therapy," Annibali protested. "She should have taken several months to do it."

For Richards, the development just didn't ring true. After seven years, "only NOW she figures this out? My sense is that there was some narrative purpose for (series creator David) Chase to end this relationship."

As in the fact that there's only an hour left to the entire story? That Tony's life is crashing down around him, and one by one, by death or rejection or his own murderous hand, he appears destined to lose everyone close to him?

Maybe. But Annibali said he'd heard that Bracco may be appearing in the final episode next Sunday. Which means there may still be time to reverse her professional missteps.

"My hope," Annibali said, "is that she and Tony will get together again."
But for one certified expert on both therapy and "The Sopranos," that wouldn't make sense, dramatically speaking. Around halfway through the show's run, Tony's therapy started failing, said Dr. Glen Gabbard, professor at the Baylor College of Medicine in Houston and author of "The Psychology of The Sopranos."

Perhaps it was because Chase himself went through years of therapy, and has publicly expressed ambivalence about its usefulness. In any case, at the busy psychiatry clinic where Gabbard works, the talk this week is about how Melfi should have ended things with Tony years ago.
"The therapy had to end," Gabbard said. "It was getting more and more futile.

"He's just not getting any better."

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6/10/2007  10:18 PM
that sucked..
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6/10/2007  11:54 PM
why did it suck? come on that was awesome my heart was beating so fast at the end... brilliant, just awesome.
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6/11/2007  11:17 AM
It would have been silly and out of character to have a big blowup ending. The ending as it was perfectly captured what the show was about- the family. Whatever happened to them when the screen went black- the family was together.
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6/11/2007  7:05 PM
For all of you writers, the ending was perfect.

Stop always looking for the climactic scene.
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