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6/2/2007  12:11 PM
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/46349/20070602/lakers_talk_with_nuggets_about_camby/

IM SORRY BUT WE CAN DO BETTER THAN KWAME BUM!!!!!!

Camby would help us soooo ****in much.. Isiah bring him back to NY!!!
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6/2/2007  12:15 PM
No we can't. The Nuggets want to trim payroll and Kwame has an expiring. The Knicks have 0 expirings.
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6/2/2007  12:20 PM
if the lakers got Camby and Oneal they would be championship contendors
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6/2/2007  12:31 PM
But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm
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6/2/2007  12:34 PM
Jermaine and Camby will make the lakers a contender overnight. I wonder why the Nuggets want to trade him. He has been relatively healthy and a healthy Camby is one of the best players on any team. What are the nuggets going to do with the money they save from an expiring Kwame?
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum?
i forgot about that guy. he did show some promise last season but at this he doesn't look like he will be an all star anytime soon.
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6/2/2007  12:53 PM
Bynum wont develop in time for Kobe
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6/2/2007  1:06 PM
Posted by Elite:

Bynum wont develop in time for Kobe

Bynum won't develop because of KOME. Just think how good Bynum would be by now if he wasn't playing with KOME. Most franchise caliber type talent come into the league being able to develop their without too much competition on their own roster. I'm not saying KOME should have been thrown under the bus once Bynum was drafted but you have to be very careful with that situation. I look at the Lakers almost like the Blazers were when they drafted O'neal and traded him away. It took Jermaine about 5yrs to develop because he was playing behind Rasheed and competing for time with other front court players on their team.
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6/2/2007  1:33 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Elite:

Bynum wont develop in time for Kobe

Bynum won't develop because of KOME. Just think how good Bynum would be by now if he wasn't playing with KOME. Most franchise caliber type talent come into the league being able to develop their without too much competition on their own roster. I'm not saying KOME should have been thrown under the bus once Bynum was drafted but you have to be very careful with that situation. I look at the Lakers almost like the Blazers were when they drafted O'neal and traded him away. It took Jermaine about 5yrs to develop because he was playing behind Rasheed and competing for time with other front court players on their team.

You're funny. I don't think the LA and Portland situations are similar enough to make any meaningful comparisons, but since you must, blaming the rate of Bynum's development on Kobe is like blaming JO's on Steve Smith.
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6/2/2007  1:39 PM
The Nuggets will get much more in trade than just an expiring. I don't know why everyone assumes when they see "team A made team B" an offer, that we can make an equally crappy offer and get the player, or that that team actually would get the player for that crappy offer. They won't.

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6/2/2007  1:50 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Elite:

Bynum wont develop in time for Kobe

Bynum won't develop because of KOME. Just think how good Bynum would be by now if he wasn't playing with KOME. Most franchise caliber type talent come into the league being able to develop their without too much competition on their own roster. I'm not saying KOME should have been thrown under the bus once Bynum was drafted but you have to be very careful with that situation. I look at the Lakers almost like the Blazers were when they drafted O'neal and traded him away. It took Jermaine about 5yrs to develop because he was playing behind Rasheed and competing for time with other front court players on their team.

You're funny. I don't think the LA and Portland situations are similar enough to make any meaningful comparisons, but since you must, blaming the rate of Bynum's development on Kobe is like blaming JO's on Steve Smith.



I'm not really blaming KOME it's clearly his team but Bynum's development process is being stunted with KOME there.

It's going to be funny hearing how the Lakers gave up on him and the Kid dominates somewhere else.
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6/2/2007  1:55 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Elite:

Bynum wont develop in time for Kobe

Bynum won't develop because of KOME. Just think how good Bynum would be by now if he wasn't playing with KOME. Most franchise caliber type talent come into the league being able to develop their without too much competition on their own roster. I'm not saying KOME should have been thrown under the bus once Bynum was drafted but you have to be very careful with that situation. I look at the Lakers almost like the Blazers were when they drafted O'neal and traded him away. It took Jermaine about 5yrs to develop because he was playing behind Rasheed and competing for time with other front court players on their team.

You're funny. I don't think the LA and Portland situations are similar enough to make any meaningful comparisons, but since you must, blaming the rate of Bynum's development on Kobe is like blaming JO's on Steve Smith.



I'm not really blaming KOME it's clearly his team but Bynum's development process is being stunted with KOME there.

It's going to be funny hearing how the Lakers gave up on him and the Kid dominates somewhere else.


The objective from the Lakers standpoint is that their team dominates, not Bynum. It really doesn't pay to have a top 3 player if they can't compete, and that is a mistake LA made, not Kobe.
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6/2/2007  2:00 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm

Yes, shame on the 19 yr old Bynum.

How many years has Curry been in the league? How many all star games has he played in? If he's supposed to be the Knicks savior, why do they need O'Neal or Camby? And why do we need to wait 2-3 years to see if they can sign a big time free agent? Hmmmm

BTW, at 19, Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Curry will ever be. If and when his offense comes, he's going to be the type of player that Isiah pretends he has a chance to acquire. But for a team looking to get the most out of Kobe's prime, why not look to acquire O'Neal or Camby?

Any other stupid questions?
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6/2/2007  2:00 PM
I heard the trade was Brown and their first round pick for Camby. Nene would have to comeback even better than he was at the end of the season and Martin would have to get back to 90% of what he was before I would say this trade would help the Nuggets. Iverson needs to win now. Losing Camby would really hurt that team.
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6/2/2007  2:12 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm

Yes, shame on the 19 yr old Bynum.

How many years has Curry been in the league? How many all star games has he played in? If he's supposed to be the Knicks savior, why do they need O'Neal or Camby? And why do we need to wait 2-3 years to see if they can sign a big time free agent? Hmmmm

BTW, at 19, Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Curry will ever be. If and when his offense comes, he's going to be the type of player that Isiah pretends he has a chance to acquire. But for a team looking to get the most out of Kobe's prime, why not look to acquire O'Neal or Camby?

Any other stupid questions?

Ignoramus, I am not speaking of age. I am talking to those who said he'd be an allstar in 3 years. This is his 3rd season coming up. Got it?

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6/2/2007  2:15 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm

Yes, shame on the 19 yr old Bynum.

How many years has Curry been in the league? How many all star games has he played in? If he's supposed to be the Knicks savior, why do they need O'Neal or Camby? And why do we need to wait 2-3 years to see if they can sign a big time free agent? Hmmmm

BTW, at 19, Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Curry will ever be. If and when his offense comes, he's going to be the type of player that Isiah pretends he has a chance to acquire. But for a team looking to get the most out of Kobe's prime, why not look to acquire O'Neal or Camby?

Any other stupid questions?

Ignoramus, I am not speaking of age. I am talking to those who said he'd be an allstar in 3 years. This is his 3rd season coming up. Got it?

And who said that? Liar.
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6/2/2007  2:28 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm

Did you see some of the things that Bynum did last year while in his 2nd year in the league? It's pretty evident the guy is going to be all-star sooner rather than later, it's just too bad that Kobe doesn't have the patience to help him progress at the proper pace.
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6/2/2007  2:31 PM
How is Camby going to be a difference maker? I still think the Lakers need more to get past the Suns and especially the Spurs. They should look in Philly direction and try to acquire Miller and Dalembert. They would have to give up Odom, Radmanovic and Farmar. Draft Byars and that would be a better team then they had. They could still trade Brown for Camby and future 1st round pick.

Miller
Bryant
Byars
Dalembert
(Brown or Camby)/Bynum


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6/2/2007  2:33 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm

Yes, shame on the 19 yr old Bynum.

How many years has Curry been in the league? How many all star games has he played in? If he's supposed to be the Knicks savior, why do they need O'Neal or Camby? And why do we need to wait 2-3 years to see if they can sign a big time free agent? Hmmmm

BTW, at 19, Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Curry will ever be. If and when his offense comes, he's going to be the type of player that Isiah pretends he has a chance to acquire. But for a team looking to get the most out of Kobe's prime, why not look to acquire O'Neal or Camby?

Any other stupid questions?

Isles- you also forgot to add that Bynum is a better passer already too.

Why don't we offer Curry for Bynum & Kwame?
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6/2/2007  2:41 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm

Yes, shame on the 19 yr old Bynum.

How many years has Curry been in the league? How many all star games has he played in? If he's supposed to be the Knicks savior, why do they need O'Neal or Camby? And why do we need to wait 2-3 years to see if they can sign a big time free agent? Hmmmm

BTW, at 19, Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Curry will ever be. If and when his offense comes, he's going to be the type of player that Isiah pretends he has a chance to acquire. But for a team looking to get the most out of Kobe's prime, why not look to acquire O'Neal or Camby?

Any other stupid questions?

Isles- you also forgot to add that Bynum is a better passer already too.

Why don't we offer Curry for Bynum & Kwame?

Damn, if Bynum is that good already, tell me again why Kobe is going ape**** out there.
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6/2/2007  2:48 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by franco12:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:

But what about andrew bynum? Many said he would be an allstar in about 3 years. This will be his 3rd season coming up. He is apparently their savior! Why would they need O'Neal or Camby? Hmmmm

Yes, shame on the 19 yr old Bynum.

How many years has Curry been in the league? How many all star games has he played in? If he's supposed to be the Knicks savior, why do they need O'Neal or Camby? And why do we need to wait 2-3 years to see if they can sign a big time free agent? Hmmmm

BTW, at 19, Bynum is already a better rebounder and shot blocker than Curry will ever be. If and when his offense comes, he's going to be the type of player that Isiah pretends he has a chance to acquire. But for a team looking to get the most out of Kobe's prime, why not look to acquire O'Neal or Camby?

Any other stupid questions?

Isles- you also forgot to add that Bynum is a better passer already too.

Why don't we offer Curry for Bynum & Kwame?

Damn, if Bynum is that good already, tell me again why Kobe is going ape**** out there.

Because he's still very young and needs a few years to develop.

Kobe is going ape**** out there because he doesn't care about the long term, he wants short term success. Also because some Laker insider put the Shaq thing on him when apparently it was Buss all along. He also saw them trade away an all star in Caron Butler for big stiff Kwame and probably doesn't have much faith in Mitch Kupchak.

In all honesty, Kobe going ape**** probably has ZERO to do with Bynum.
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