Posted by BlueSeats:

Any year he doesn't fire a coach can be considered going the distance.

Posted by nixluva:

Don't you think that the timing is right for a more patient approach to making any moves? The guy has added a load of young talent and the next moves we make will be critical for this team's success in the next 5 years. So he's only doing the right thing by taking a long look at all the available options.

Can we at least STOP all this crap about him not doing anything in the last FOUR YEARS? GEEZ! How can you count the 1st year and a half when it was said that it woud take ANY GM about 3-4 years to do anything with the team? DId we all just forget what he started with now cuz it's more convenient to bash him and include all the years he's been here? I honestly don't get that. The last 2 years he's started to do a better job and this team at least has some good things going for it now. Sure the record has been bad and that is fairly held against him, but let's not kid ourselves and forget how tough a job this really was.

The difference now is that he's at least gotten to a point where with a good move this team can jump a couple of levels. We have youth for a good run. Things aren't as bad as so many want to keep painting this to be. It's sad to see post after post not even trying to look for ways this team can improve, but simply BASHING away and being pessimistic.

Posted by djsunyc:

2 questions:

1. is there a player on the roster today better than stephon marbury was at 26 when we acquired him?

2. can isiah thomas get a player today better than stephon marbury was at 26 when we acquired him?

Posted by islesfan:

At this point your unwavering "optimism" can only be explained as a gimmick. It absolutely has to be, because there's no way that any rational person can think the way you do, without being paid to do so.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by islesfan:

At this point your unwavering "optimism" can only be explained as a gimmick. It absolutely has to be, because there's no way that any rational person can think the way you do, without being paid to do so.

It's no more of a gimmick than your constant refrain of doom and gloom. What is your particular point when it comes to only looking at the negative as if there is nothing positive about the team? I may have an optimistic view, but I also see that there's problems with the team and that's the reason we need to keep working to try and improve the roster from within and from outside. What exactly is your take? That there's nothing that can be done by Isiah to improve the team and make it a winner? Your solution is what exactly? Tear the team down and start over which would take what another 3-5 years. You don't have any more of a sound plan than anyone else. You just love to talk CRAP and make yourself seem like your standing on the high ground cuz you can point out the obvious and make jokes about the teams misfortunes.

You bash Isiah for changing his focus and yet that's exactly what MANY other teams who went on to be successful have done!!! You don't stick with something if it's clearly not going to work. Just for the record, he really only has had 2 major plans that he's tried to develop. The 1st being the team with Steph, H2O and KT at the core for the 1st year and a half and then this new scheme with Curry in the middle, the last 2 years. You and your fellow haters like to exaggerate things to make it seem like he's tried lots of different shceme's and that's not true.

There are no guarantees in this league unless you have a Jordan, Olajuwon, Duncan or Shaq. Outside of that all teams are just doing the best they can. Some get it right and others don't. Some THINK they've got it and still end up short of their goals. ie Dallas and Phx. We've got a decent group of players and who knows maybe we really are just a good player away. In this league 1 player can make a big difference if he's the right player.

If you haven't noticed, I've been pretty damn accurate with the "doom and gloom". In fact, things have been even worse than I've predicted them to be.

You on the other hand just keeps on buying whatever new plan Isiah is selling, despite things continually going from bad to worse during his tenure. Isiah has had a new plan every year he's been here. Don't tell me that it's been some sort of natural progression. Isiah contradicts himself so much it's hard to keep track of them all.

Here's my plan. Get rid of that loser Isiah and put someone else in place that actually has a clue.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by islesfan:

If you haven't noticed, I've been pretty damn accurate with the "doom and gloom". In fact, things have been even worse than I've predicted them to be.

You on the other hand just keeps on buying whatever new plan Isiah is selling, despite things continually going from bad to worse during his tenure. Isiah has had a new plan every year he's been here. Don't tell me that it's been some sort of natural progression. Isiah contradicts himself so much it's hard to keep track of them all.

Here's my plan. Get rid of that loser Isiah and put someone else in place that actually has a clue.

You're merely stating the obvious. We all know that team wasn't going to be great when we started down the CURRENT path 2 years ago. ANYONE could've taken a stab at guessing things wouldn't work out and stood a good chance of hitting that one. Since at best anyone could hope for was a team that was somewhere around .500. It's really not about that. What is more important is what this teams actual chances are for improving. The DIRECTION of the team was more important than the number of wins at this point. When you're trying to develop a team with more young players, that's going to require patience as they develop. With that in mind I fail to see your point.

The idea was to try and get younger and 2 years ago we started down that path. Now there were some bad things that happened along the way, but we've still managed to add some good young talent. I find it funny how some of us are ready to write these guys off as not being good enough when we don't have any of the draft picks having played 3 full seasons yet. We don't yet know what any of them will ultimately be. We can see that they do have talent tho. If we can add to this mix and fill our needs this team should be good for a nice 4-6 year run. I guess that in your mind that can't happen. It's a virtual impossibility that we could put things together and get to the point of being a contender.

With this group of overpaid underachievers, young role players and pathetic management?

No, it can't happen.

"If we can add to this mix and fill our needs this team should be good for a nice 4-6 year run."

That's just more BS Isiah used car salesperson speak. Completely unspecific and overly optimistic at the same time. Any non successful team can say it but only totally gullible people believe and repeat it.