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BRIGGS
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5/23/2007  5:23 PM
Guard--look at what happened when the guards were done? we were the worst team in the league--we are DESPERATE for guard depth
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5/23/2007  6:36 PM
Briggs, what happened?
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5/23/2007  6:55 PM
outside shooting-

when Marbury went down, Collins stepped in and I think ran the team better and played stronger defense

We lack, even when healthy, outside shooters

if we are going with Curry, we need shooters to help him out and for him to help others score.
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5/23/2007  8:03 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Guard--look at what happened when the guards were done? we were the worst team in the league--we are DESPERATE for guard depth
guards? How many versatile, two-way PF/Cs do we have? This is crazy
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5/23/2007  8:34 PM
As I suspect many here feel, the Knicks would do well to draft a consistent shooter from 20 ft. out or look to sign someone with the low-level or mid-level exception like Matt Carrol, Jason Kapono, Sasha Pavlovic, Eddie House.
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5/24/2007  1:18 AM
The knicks are better when they are playing Lee or Balkman at the 3, so that means you have to have a lights out shooter at the 2.

If it could be a 6-6 dude that Marbs could pick and roll with that would help too.
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5/24/2007  3:03 AM
If anything the knicks have awesome guard depth. Collins and Francis played well together down the stretch. They were just as good as marbs and craw. Francis messes that up cuz he refuses to play anything less than a 40 minute starter.

Lee went down and the knicks fell apart. Frye is the weak link. Knicks need a guy that can at the very least spot start. Frye was useless. He was getting the minutes and he just was a statue. Guys here have talked about isiah not using him right, but he was still getting the minutes with malik the only player on the bench that could play the 4. Knicks desperately need to deepen the 4 spot.
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5/24/2007  12:44 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

If anything the knicks have awesome guard depth. Collins and Francis played well together down the stretch. They were just as good as marbs and craw. Francis messes that up cuz he refuses to play anything less than a 40 minute starter.

Lee went down and the knicks fell apart. Frye is the weak link. Knicks need a guy that can at the very least spot start. Frye was useless. He was getting the minutes and he just was a statue. Guys here have talked about isiah not using him right, but he was still getting the minutes with malik the only player on the bench that could play the 4. Knicks desperately need to deepen the 4 spot.

sorry to disagree, but having 4 flawed players who play in the backcourt to me isn't depth.

We don't have a true shooting guard.

And our 'true' pg is going to be a second year player in Collins.

Marbury is old, can't shoot from outside, and only started to get team play.

Francis wants out.

Crawford will score 50 one night and then shoot 3 for 20 the next five games straight

Nate is a midget side show.

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5/24/2007  12:50 PM
we need a high % outside scorer, anyone who can move the ball and a shot blocker.
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5/24/2007  12:57 PM
Our Guards are a weak link because we turn the ball over WAY to much. With guards that can control there own TOs as well as create easy shots for Curry so he doesn't have to hold the ball for long and turn it over would be huge for this team. We can't go on season after season turning the ball over the way we have. But there is no way to turn over Marbury, Francis, Crawford, Collins, Nate all in one offseason. So next best thing would be to have a pure shooting guard with excellent shooting touch.
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5/24/2007  1:50 PM
We are weak at the 1,2,3 Those are the positions the Knicks need to replace.

At the 1 you have Marbury, Francis, Collins, and nay Nate. Marbury even if you like his style of play the guy isn't getting younger not to mention his knees are getting more and more worn down. Francis well he's certaintely not the worst player but the guy is a poison for a team thats basically in rebuilding mode. Collins could be solid but at this point I don't think he's anything more than a back-up. Nate he's a complete joke takes absolutely nothing seriously plays erratically and does very little passing or playing D.

At the 2 you have basically the guys from above plus Crawford.

Crawford the guy is incredibly stupid in terms of the plays he makes on the court. The word consistency does not exist in his lexicon. And his defense (I use that word very loosely) all the athleticism and quickness he displays at times on offense are completely non existent on the defensive end.

At the 3 you have Jefferies LOL, Balkman, and Q. Q going into last year I thought he could be a major contributor but his back keeps him out of the lineup too much for him to be considered a regular starter.

Balkman still has a great deal of development. All the natural essentials he defintely has but the rest basic fundamentals are still greatly lacking from his game. If he spends this summer getting serious about addressing his defiencies they maybe but until if/or when that happens I wouldn't consider him a viable option especially being one of the most competitive positions in the league.
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5/24/2007  4:22 PM
Knicks need shotblocking, perimeter and frontcourt defenders, and a pure shooter. It can also be argued that we need a coach.
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5/24/2007  4:39 PM
15 NBA players and nobody can shoot the ball!!!???
Can it be a fluke??? This is conspiracy!!!
I was thinking that this is what NBA players must do for granted. Shoot the ball well...
I was delusional. Stupid me...
Probably this is the most difficult skill to practice...
You need to take a bunch of balls and run around shooting. Yaa. Boring stuff.
It is much better to sell shoes, do charities, help the community, shot commercials, perfect you dunking skills, hang up with girls, drive in custom made cars, and many other cool activities...




[Edited by - arkrud on 05-24-2007 4:39 PM]
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5/24/2007  8:50 PM
Knicks need someone who can score and help stop the opposing them from scoring than the Knicks score.
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5/24/2007  8:56 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Knicks need someone who can score and help stop the opposing them from scoring than the Knicks score.

Don't drink and drive man...
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5/24/2007  9:12 PM
You guys can't complain without mentioning channing. David lee goes down and the knicks crumble. Aside from curry and lee who else is there?

Yeah the knicks need a guy that can shoot at the 3 and 2 but they also need a guy that can contribute like a man behind or in front of David lee.

Yeah marbs is old, francis is a selfish bastard and craw is too streaky. Don't forget that channing Frye is too gay.
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5/24/2007  9:39 PM
Posted by arkrud:
Posted by Pharzeone:

Knicks need someone who can score and help stop the opposing them from scoring than the Knicks score.

Don't drink and drive man...

I was just responding to what the Knicks need to win more games. Score more than the other team.

[Edited by - pharzeone on 24-05-2007 9:40 PM]
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5/24/2007  9:57 PM
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5/24/2007  10:04 PM
We've got Guards, but could use another one with size and a sniper shooting %. I think we have an equal need for a PF that can reb and help defend. A long and athletic guy that can cover a lot of ground. We have PF's, but I look at the group and we don't have a long and athletic guy that is quick enough to help defend and block shots. I love Lee, but I think we need another guy that can give us a more forceful and intimidating presence. I look at Morris as a guy that can back up Curry for a few minutes a night and still allow us to run the same offense, cuz he can post up very well. The funny thing is that we're gonna have to move either Frye or Jared, cuz we can't keep both. I actually think Frye can still develop into a useful player. If Isiah could get another pick, i'd love to take a SG and a PF like S. Williams. Those are the two areas of weakness for this team.
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5/24/2007  10:21 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Our Guards are a weak link because we turn the ball over WAY to much. With guards that can control there own TOs as well as create easy shots for Curry so he doesn't have to hold the ball for long and turn it over would be huge for this team. We can't go on season after season turning the ball over the way we have. But there is no way to turn over Marbury, Francis, Crawford, Collins, Nate all in one offseason. So next best thing would be to have a pure shooting guard with excellent shooting touch.

This is the key to our season: turnovers. We beat ourselves far too often with bad guard play and then throw in Curry's tendency to turn the ball over and you have a really bad situation. We need guards who can get the ball to Curry in a position to score.

The second need is shooters. With Curry drawing double and triple teams, someone has to be open and we need that player to hit the shot.
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