Posted by falcindor:

Chaney has done well this season.

I think Chaney is getting the shaft. Being a black coach must be hard. But its really rough when you know you are getting paid less than 1/2 what Van Gundy was making. That shows how much NY care about you.

Van Gundy had some winnig seasons before he got a big contract. I think he got the contract after their 1999-2000 run. Even before that he had some good winning seasons. I think if Chaney next year does well and the next his next contract will be right up there with JVG.

Posted by necrom33:

Non Chaney is a bad coach, black man or not. It's not a race issue, the man has been a substandard coach his whole career. NY has supplied him with excuse after excuse for a coach who came in with a career 'winning' percentage of .411 and has DROPPED.

Well, at least NY is not wasting the career of a REAL coach. IF and when NY gets some more talent, then a real coach can be brought in to lead us. In the meantime, the caretaker just keeps cashing his checks for nothing.

Oh, and for anybody who wants to answer how well Non did 'with this group' I'll put to you that yes he didn't do that badly, and that another REAL coach would've done even better.

I disagree there. Don did a great job, and more importantly, he's earned this team's respect. I think the Knicks overachieved this year, cause let's face it, they easily could have lost 55-60 games. Sure a few other coaches could have done a better job, but that doesn't make his effort any less admirable.

He's gotten through to the team, so let's see what he can do with Dice before we write him off.

Come on Falcindor, Don Chaney is a rich man who has a guarnteed 6mm more or so coming to him over the next 3 years. How can you compare one mans salary when their winning % are on a different plains? I happen to give Chaney credit. I think he is a good coach. I think he did a job that would qualify as a B this year. I think he did much better than the majority of coaches and was fairly compensated for it.

I've been following Non since his days in Houston since he won (undeservedly, IMO) the CoTY award. The thing is that the guy apparently is truly a "sweetheart", and as such, gets a free pass in the media. But the bottom line, whether you like the guy or not, is that he is a LOSER. This is validated by his winning percentage (i think it's .403 now).

People misinterpret me and think that I'm saying that Non is not a good coach FOR THE KNICKS. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that Non is a bad coach, PERIOD. If someone told me to name the coaches that are better than him out of today's coaches, I'd answer that the list of coaches who are worse would probably be a lot shorter.

Come three years from now, I'll be telling people that Non never took this team anywhere and they'll be telling me that 'what had happened' and 'circumstances' and all sorts of other things, but the bottom line is that Non will have lost, just like everywhere else he's been.

One last stat (I'll grant this: I'm not 100% sure of this, but I'm pretty sure): 11 years as a HEAD COACH, 2 playoff visits, 2 seasons with winning percentage. 12 years if you count this one with NY.

The fact remains that Chaney is a substandard coach with a track record of losing. Nothing he did here changes that; as a matter of fact he's lost MORE than he usually does.

Based on what I've seen from Non throughout his career, I'm seriously inclined to think this team overachieved IN SPITE of Non Chaney, not because of him. The look of cluelessness on the sidelines, poor substitution patterns, HORRIBLE play-calling off of time-outs...AAAARGGHHH...

This man sat on the sidelines as an assistant coach or not coaching at all for over 8 seasons while Head Coaching jobs were given to former players with no experience, college coaches with no NBA experience or assistant coaches with no Head Coaching experience. Yet Chaney, a former Head Coach and CoTY award, couldn't land a gig. If JVG hadn't quit mid-season, Chaney would probably STILL be an assistant, not sitting on the big chair.

Dolan and LayDUMB have had their PR machine working over time to hype this guy up, but please don't let it fool you. This will be Chaney's last gig for some time whenever he, thankfully, gets canned (cuz he's not walking away, he has to know nobody is going to come knocking down his door! ).

Regardless, I'm a Knicks fan, so I'm stuck watching this fool for the next three seasons. Ah, well...

If Chaney didnt get the blame, Layden has to take it.

What the excuse for Layden. No backup plan.

Let me state that NY's biggest problem is not Chaney, I understand that. It starts all the way up with Dolan and LayDUMB.

I also understand and, to a certain extent, agree with the 'why get a great coach in here?' mentality. There isn't a coach alive that could lead this group to a ring, which is SUPPOSEDLY what this is all about, anyway.

I was just stating that Chaney is a bad coach. Always has been, always will be. A trip to the playoffs next season will not justify him as a 'good coach'.

Regardless, he's here. I'm not a big fan of Allan (I call him Allan Housless ), but I root for him since he wears a Knicks uni. Since he's our coach for the foreseeable future, I guess I'll do the same for Chaney... sheesh.

Posted by OasisBU:

I am going to take this one step further. Why does everyone kiss JVG's A$$ so hard? He is a quitter. Everyone bashes Riley for leaving and going to Miami. When Riley was here he was the man, when JVG was first appointed NY coach nobody wanted him here. Now I do agree he was a good coach for a while in NY and I did start to like him...but he walked out on this team 10 games into the season. You should have a little more respect for your team, the sport, and your profession. That was an absolutely UNPROFESSIONAL move on his part yet he gets off as being a hero for deciding to walk away when things got tough. He quit, plane and simple.

Sorry I had to throw that in, it has been on my mind lately.

Actually, he quit 19 games into the season. He left with a 10-9 record, which was the last time a Head Coach had NY above .500. Chaney coached NY to a win the next game as an assistant, was named Head Coach after that, and it's been downhill ever since....

I'm not defending his quitting, but I wonder what went on that we DON'T know about. How come a coach with his record couldn't get a contract extension, yet Non Chaney has gotten 3(?) in the last three seasons?

My belief is that when talking about lack of professionalism, a REAL HARD look has to be taken at the top of the Knicks food chain. I gotta say I've NEVER seen such incompetence in an owner/GM. These guys make me wish we were run by the Clippers' Sterling and Baylor!

necrom33, nice post....you have proved nothing.
Chaney has guys playing better than they have in the past, and Allan "Housless" is now a top 10 scorer in the NBA.

What did you think the Knicks record would be when Dice went down for the season?

As for that once a loser always a loser crap Don is highly regarded and respected around the NBa by his peers.

If you want to rip his track record you could do the same for Joe Torre who was always a loser. Oh wait, now he's won 4 of 7 WS with the Yankees roster. I wonder if that has anything to do with his success.

Some coaches are good fits, others arent. Nelson was bed here, but he's turned around a Dal franchise that was a joke for years.

Chaney has his players playing well, and many of them overachieving. They play hard.