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playa2
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5/10/2007  10:07 AM
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http://blogs.suntimes.com/mitchell/2006/10/black_holocaust_survivors.html

Little information remains about the numbers of Black Germans held in the
camps or killed under the Nazi regime. Some victims of the Nazi
sterilization project and Black survivors of the Holocaust are still alive
and telling their story in films such as "Black Survivors of the Nazi
Holocaust", but they must also speak out for justice, not just history.

Unlike Jews (in Israel and in Germany), Black Germans receive no war
reparations because their German citizenship was revoked (even though they
were German-born) . The only pension they get is from those of us who are
willing to tell the world their stories and continue their battle for
recognition and compensation.


So much is coming out lately, for yrs these things have been hidden.

Taken from a blog:

Why Be A Victim

I tend to vent through you,and walk away.
A coward,far from it. American life sucked in the worse of ways.
My dad taught me that common sense is among the greatest things in the world.
Yet it is of the most sorely lacking in American culture.

Closure is the problem in the U.S,closure and denial.
I question why so many Jews always seem to write when you do an artical on reparations or other such matters.
Yet anytime one brings up Nelson Mandela everyone seems to shut up.

Mr. Mandela bought closure to South African apartide by demanding those that took part in crimes confess and no charges would be brought against them.
Confess to where you dumped the bodies,confess to the families that you pilaged against,CONFESS!!
He also demanded that the South African police be accountable!!

Yet in America, we celebrate the fallen and stong men and women while the culprits of the crimes are still alive and well!
Why is it that the lady that was the cause of Emitt Tills death has not been hounded and forced to tell the story.
Yet we speak of him yearly as if it has been in many generations past.
She was alive last I heard and living without questions or forced comments!
It is as if america wants her to die so they are not further ashamed by the present, not the past!
Should she have peace, would any other war criminal have peace because of age!
She like most others are the reason America is soooo far behind in reality when it comes to humanity.
Right up there with pre Mandela South Africa, which America sponsord by the way.
So why would a Jewish person watch so gaurdedly your column? I say they can't be Jews.
Jews come in all colors( Although in America we think it was just Sammy Davis) and only Hollywood could make one believe they are all white when the Pyramid Walls itself are entirely(pre Arab occupation) Black peoples.One of the first things a crazy person is asked to do is read the Picture, damn, any kid can see THAT even after 10,000 or so years of the sun!!

Nooo, no Jewish person would challenge American racism against blacks. It has to be the clan in in disguise, AGAIN!
Any person that claims to be Jewish and does such should have to prove his heritage.
Any black that allows such, should not allow themselves to be victims of psychological warfare.
As long as Blacks expect to be treated fairly by those that profit from the status quo, forget it, your asking too much.
Even the poorest of white men in America once told me that he has it all just because he is "White", in America. (I was the one bying beers mind you).so maybe he was right....*smile*

But when one decides to fight, YES, fight...Slap, whatever it takes to be heard on equal grounds...Because I think the U.S is too far gone to listen to anything other than violence against injustice. Is it a crime to fight against injustice...no.
Why not slap the cops they have felt so comfortable calling......... feel uncomfortable commiting crimes against our humanity.

Slap...why not put the fool that planted the sock(and many a more you know) in prison or take charge and Slap him down.
Why not make the government acountable for the crimes against humanity in our own country.
Or the people that profit from these crimes feel what force is like to be free when you continue to deny and disguise to further frustrate matters.

I chose to not be a victim...

One Man.










[Edited by - playa2 on 10-05-2007 10:14]
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5/10/2007  11:48 AM
I believe holocaust studies should include all of Hitler’s victims to expose the insanity of racism and educate students that attempts to create a "Master Race" are not just wrong but wholly evil.

The white media will forever mislead and misinform the general public .I knew there were german blacks but the reality of the atrocities commited against them and their brave fight to overcome should be mandatory reading for students.The sad history of racism against blacks in the U.S is a blot on american history this is just another example of a coverup of the real history of life as a black person in the world.
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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5/10/2007  3:12 PM
There were 12 million victims, only half Jews, 6 million. Many gypsies for example. I'm sure there were some black victims as well. Why you are railing against the Jews for about 3 paragraphs I don't understand. The reprations paid to the Jews are a joke by the way, it is mostly a symbolic thing. But I guess you are jelous of even that.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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5/10/2007  3:23 PM
Judaism and Jewish culture in not related to race or nationality.
This is the unity of mind.
Jewish culture is based on the idiom that all people are equal and have equal right for happiness.
Isn't it the same as US Constitution and all civilizations are claiming?
But do they follow the path. Jews do.
Yes we do have villains and criminals but they are out of Jewish culture by being what they are.
Is this same all over?
Our biggest preference is the well being of people, the better future for each new generation, care for children, elderly, advance in culture, science, spirituality.
You would say this what all nations and countries declare. This is true
But we actually do this. We never stop at declaration.
It's not a surprise that constructive thinking and rejecting violence and abuse give us an opportunity to advance in different areas of human life.
Jews was abused, deprived, pushed all over the world but we are not focusing on any type of retaliation or hater. We know the nations who did this already punished themselves and some disappeared.
What goes around comes around.




"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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5/10/2007  3:43 PM
Posted by simrud:

There were 12 million victims, only half Jews, 6 million. Many gypsies for example. I'm sure there were some black victims as well. Why you are railing against the Jews for about 3 paragraphs I don't understand. The reprations paid to the Jews are a joke by the way, it is mostly a symbolic thing. But I guess you are jelous of even that.

Sometimes I read what playa posts and wonder if I clicked the wrong message board. The Jews were killed in the greatest number of anyone in the Holocaust, so they get the most attention, naturally. There's no conspiracy.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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5/10/2007  10:09 PM
Posted by simrud:

There were 12 million victims, only half Jews, 6 million. Many gypsies for example. I'm sure there were some black victims as well. Why you are railing against the Jews for about 3 paragraphs I don't understand. The reprations paid to the Jews are a joke by the way, it is mostly a symbolic thing. But I guess you are jelous of even that.

Simrud ,Jewish historian Max Dimont points this out in his book
that non-jews were wiped out in higher proportions than jews: 7 to 5!
In fact, when the Nazis were defeated, enough zyklon B was found to kill 8 million. Their plans called for the extermination of 5 million a year. At best, there were only 4 million jews left !

One documentary telling us to
"Always Remember" is "Black Survivors of the Holocaust" (1997). Outside the
U.S., the film is entitled "Hitler's Forgotten Victims" (Afro-Wisdom
Productions) . It codifies another dimension to the "Never Forget "
Holocaust story--our dimension.

Did you know that in the 1920's, there were 24,000 Blacks living in
Germany?

Neither did I.

Here's how it happened, and how many of them were
eventually caught unawares by the events of the Holocaust.

Like most West European nations, Germany established colonies in Africa in
the la te 1800's in what later became Togo, Cameroon, Namibia, and
Tanzania. German genetic experiments began there, most notably involving
prisoners taken from the 1904 Heroro Massacre that left 60,000 Africans
dead, following a 4-year revolt against German
colonization. After the shellacking Germany received in World War I, it was
stripped of its African colonies in 1918.

As a spoil of war, the French were allowed to occupy Germany in the
Rhineland--a bitter piece of real estate that has gone back and, forth
between the two nations for centuries. The French willfully deployed their
own colonized African soldiers as the occupying
force. Germans viewed this as the final insult of World War I, and, soon
thereafter, 92% of them voted in the Nazi party.

Hundreds of the African Rhineland-based soldiers intermarried with German
women and raised their children as Black Germans. In Mein Kampf, Hitler
wrote about his plans for these "Rhineland Bastards". When he came to
power, one of his first directives was aimed at
these mixed-race children. Underscoring Hitler's obsession with racial
purity, by 1937, every identified mixed-race child in the Rhineland had
been forcibly sterilized, in order to prevent
further "race polluting", as Hitler termed it.

Hans Hauck, a Black Holocaust survivor and a victim of Hitler's mandatory
sterilization program, explained in the film "Hitler's Forgotten Victims"
that, when he was forced to undergo sterilization as a teenager, he was
given no anesthetic. Once he received his
sterilization certificate, he was "free to go", so long as he agreed to
have no sexual relations whatsoever with Germans.

Although most Black Germans attempted to escape their fatherland, heading
for France where people like Josephine Baker were steadily aiding and
supporting the French Underground, many still encountered problems
elsewhere. Nations shut their doors to Germans, including the Black ones.

Some Black Germans were able to eke out a living during Hitler's reign of
terror by performing in Vaudeville shows, but many Blacks, steadfast in
their belief that they were German first, Black second, opted to remain in
Germany. Some fought with the Nazis (a few even became Lutwaffe pilots)!
Unfortunately, many Black Germans were arrested, charged with treason, and
shipped in cattle cars to concentration camps. Often these trains were so
packed with people and (equipped with no bathroom facilities or food),
that, after the four-day journey, box car doors were opened to piles of the
dead and dying.

Once inside the concentration camps, Blacks were given the worst jobs
conceivable. Some Black American soldiers, who were captured and held as
prisoners of war, recounted that, while they were being starved and forced
into dangerous labor (violating the Geneva
Convention), they were still better off than Black German concentration
camp detainees, who were forced to do the unthinkable-man the crematoriums
and work in labs where genetic experiments were being conducted. As a final
sacrifice, these Blacks were killed
every three months so that they would never be able to reveal the inner
workings of the "Final Solution".

In every story of Black oppression, no matter how we were enslaved,
shackled, or beaten, we always found a way to survive and to rescue others.
As a case in point, consider Johnny Voste, a Belgian resistance fighter who
was arrested in 1942 for alleged sabotage and
then shipped to Dachau. One of his jobs was stacking vitamin crates.
Risking his own life, he distributed hundreds of vitamins to camp
detainees, which saved the lives of many who were starving, weak, and
ill--conditions exacerbated by extreme vitamin deficiencies. His motto was
"No, you can't have my life; I will fight for it."

According to Essex University's Delroy Constantine- Simms, there were Black
Germans who resisted Nazi Germany, such as Lari Gilges, who founded the
Northwest Rann--an organization of entertainers that fought the Nazis in
his home town of Dusseldorf--and who was murdered by the SS in 1933, the
year that Hitler came into power.

Little information remains about the numbers of Black Germans held in the
camps or killed under the Nazi regime. Some victims of the Nazi
sterilization project and Black survivors of the Holocaust are still alive
and telling their story in films such as "Black Survivors of the Nazi
Holocaust", but they must also speak out for justice, not just history.

Unlike Jews (in Israel and in Germany), Black Germans receive no war
reparations because their German citizenship was revoked (even though they
were German-born) . The only pension they get is from those of us who are
willing to tell the world their stories and continue their battle for
recognition and compensation.

After the war, scores of Blacks who had somehow managed to survive the Nazi
regime, were rounded up and tried as war criminals. Talk about the final
insult! There are thousands of Black Holocaust stories, from the triangle
trade, to slavery in America, to the gas
ovens in Germany.

We often shy away from hearing about our historical past because so much of
it is painful; however, we are in this struggle together for rights,
dignity, and, yes, reparations for wrongs done to us through the centuries.
We need to always remember so that we can take steps
to ensure that these atrocities never happen again.

For further information, read: Destined to Witness: Growing Up Black in
Nazi Germany, by Hans J. Massaquoi.



Half of the Holocaust story is rarely told, because it does not serve the purposes of the Zionists.





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5/11/2007  2:37 PM
Oh, you finally get to your point, all this just to take a swipoe at "zionists", kill yourself
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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5/13/2007  12:15 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by simrud:

There were 12 million victims, only half Jews, 6 million. Many gypsies for example. I'm sure there were some black victims as well. Why you are railing against the Jews for about 3 paragraphs I don't understand. The reprations paid to the Jews are a joke by the way, it is mostly a symbolic thing. But I guess you are jelous of even that.

Sometimes I read what playa posts and wonder if I clicked the wrong message board. The Jews were killed in the greatest number of anyone in the Holocaust, so they get the most attention, naturally. There's no conspiracy.

The American Indian can be very much descibed as having of gone through a huge holocaust. There were concentration camps here everywhere. This is one of the biggest misconceptions known to man on earth. For instance, the blankets that were handed out by the millions (by our own Goverment), to the millions here, they were riddled with deseases. Most people in the world don't realize that the majority of the American Indian popullations died of not only from famin, but desease as well. It wasn't a great war with the Europeans that wiped them out, but desease. It is estimated that anywhere from 50 to 150 million Indigenous peoples died because of European interferance here on these lands, including Canada and pretty much the whole southwest, including what is known today as Mexico. The story is a very complex one, since you had all kinds of Nations of Indigenous people here, with different cultures and languages, if wasn't just one kind of people. You remember the public television story, narrated by Kevin Costner? The name if you remember was '500 Nations'. There were well over 500 Nations anywhere from the very bottom of South America, to the very edges of the North pole. They also lived in what is known as todays Carribean. All of these peoples went through basically the same process of desease and famin. It isn't hard to beleive that a people who lived on these lands for up to about 20,000 years would have a popullation of about 150 million. There was' a holocaust here, and our Goverments know it happened. It's a little known fact and I think it should be addressed when the subject of holocaust is brought up.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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5/13/2007  4:33 PM
Interesting fact, 4949 and definitely should be recognized, but I do consider it a bit of a tangent, since those are different events. The Holocaust refers an event that had nothing to do with the native americans. But, of course you're right, it should be recognized. There's been a lot of wrong done in the world against many many groups.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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5/13/2007  6:35 PM
Amen to that one.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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