Jews have been compensated, Japanese Americans have been compensated because they were imprisoned in America during WWII. Native Americans are still being compensated. And so should African Americans.

If you don't remember anything else about Black/White relations; Remember this; White people today are an extension of the Slavemasters, and the Slavemasters mentality was passed down from generation to generation. That's why many White people still have some of the Slavemasters same way of thinking, although some of the actions has refined itself some, partly due to the civil rights movement. It is hard to change over 4,000 years of taught behavior and history. And Black people today are an extension of the Slaves, and some of that Slave mentality has been passed down from generation to generation, along with the psychological damage that is the trickle down effect from the inhumanity and brutality that the slaves endured. And it is also hard to change or "get over" 400 years of that horrible history, especially when much of the Slavemasters mentality is still spewing today. Black people are the real victims here, so the real change has to start with the ones that started this horrible history in the first place. Do you feel me? That's like if a big bully kept beating up a smaller kid everyday. You just can't tell the small kid to not be mad or "get over it" unless the big bully changes and totally stop doing what he's been doing .

But a change on this issue is easier said than done. The only way that that can be accomplished is to erase the results of history, by de-programming and then re-programming everybodys minds. And quite frankly, I don't see that happening. (The beds have already been made!)




Slavery Reparations





Official City of Chicago Document No. PR2000-20. This Resolution was first proposed by Alderman Dorothy Tillman of the 3rd Ward in March 2000 and then approved by a Special Committee composed of members of the Human Relations and Finance Committees of the City of Chicago.

RESOLUTION

Whereas, More than 30 million Black African Americans are direct descendants of slaves brought to the shores of America almost 400 years ago; and

Whereas, It is estimated that 80 to 100 million Africans died from starvation, disease, execution or other brutal treatment while being transported to the Americas and other regions of the globe during centuries of a horrible Black holocaust; and

Whereas, Slave labor was the primary source for clearing, cultivating, planting and harvesting the land, processing the products, and all other duties necessary for the economic enrichment of slave owners and their families; and

Whereas, The use of free slave labor is the major cause for the rise of the United States as the strongest, wealthiest nation in the world, and

Whereas, Free slave labor, championed by the United States Government, allowed slave owners and their families to accumulate great wealth that was bequeathed to their descendants, while the slaves and their families had only the products of poverty to consign to their descendants; and

Whereas, Slaves were considered only three-fifths of a person in the United States Constitution and were deprived of pursuing any of the basic rights and privileges afforded other citizens; and

Whereas, Emancipation, followed by 100 years of legal segregation supported by laws that continued to deny freed slaves and their families the same basic rights as former slave holders, and

Whereas, The cruel and inhuman treatment and the denial of opportunity to Black people caused extreme, lasting social and psychological damage to the descendants of slaves that continue to impede their social, economic and educational progress; and

Whereas, The brutality and trauma suffered by prisoners in World War Two described as the Helsenki Syndrome was a microcosm of the post slavery trauma suffered by descendants of American slaves, passed on by culture, language and emotions; and

Whereas, The inhumanity of slavery followed by 100 years of government sponsored discrimination against Black people also resulted in extreme psychological damage to the descendants of slave owners that continue to fuel racial division and hostilities; and

Whereas, There will never be racial healing until America decides to face the criminal debauchery that people enriched themselves by committing wrongful acts against

Posted by playa2:

Jews have been compensated

wrong, i havent been compensated for anything...keep dreaming though.

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Posted by Solace:

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ok, now I have to ask, why is this on a sports board?

This is off topic thread, Solace maybe this isn't your topic for discussion

Who's stopping them ?

Who stopped the Black Panther Party ?

Who stopped the blackwallstreet down in tulsa oklahoma where blacks owned their own airplanes hospitals grociers ,banks etc...

[Although throughout history Blacks have not been economically independent, there was a short time period in which the African American economy flourished. This was a time when segregation was the law and thus Blacks were forced to develop an independent economy under which they could survive as well as thrive. "The Greenwood District" in Tulsa, Oklahoma also known as "The Black Wall Street" is a perfect example of how African Americans successfully established an economic structure independent of their White counterparts.

This community flourished during the segregation period of the 1920's. The people in Greenwood relied almost exclusively on their families. Most families had five or more children and Greenwood made it mandatory for children within their community to be educated. Regardless of finances, every child attended school, which were all owned and run from within the community. Large families provided enough labor to internally fuel the community's businesses and Black professionals used their capital to open training schools, and to own infrastructure businesses such as the busing system.

Segregation came at a time of harsh feelings between Africans and Europeans in America. Often because Blacks were not allowed to use White resources, they had to supply their own. In the Supreme Court case of Plessy V. Ferguson, Blacks in America were forced to live under legal segregation due to the Supreme Court ruling that separate but equal facilities were acceptable. This is one of the greatest opportunities former slaves could have been given, in hindsight. Segregation could have been the foundation for the economic and social advancement of Blacks in America if it wasn't for the many racially motivated hate crimes that often destroyed Black communities. It forced Blacks to rely and work with one another as opposed to relying and working for those who did not care about their communities. Segregation in America is seldom viewed as a tool for economic advancement, but a reexamination of the positive affects of segregation on Black America is necessary.

The African Americans in Tulsa supported the idea of nepotism. If someone were in a position of power they would hire and help their friends and relatives, which lowered unemployment in the community. Another pillar in the foundation of the "Black Wall Street's" infrastructure was the belief in ownership of land and businesses. For example, when the state of Oklahoma had only two airports in the 1920's, there were six privately owned jets in Greenwood. Furthermore, currency sometimes took a year to filter through the community because the people who owned the grocery stores, saloons, and various other businesses would use the same money to buy goods and services from others in the community. So the same dollars were continuously passed from Black hand to Black hand. This is an excellent example of how an affluent African American community directly invested into their own livelihood. Contrasting, in the present day it only takes fifteen minutes for a dollar to leave a black community.

The existence of this community, however, evoked racism and envy in the hearts of Whites in Tulsa. The morning of June 1st, after the alleged rape of a White woman, leaders of the KKK instigated a riot in Greenwood. Other Whites such as local authorities assisted in the burning and massacre of the Greenwood district. It is said that this is unofficially the worst riot to ever occur on United States soil. The numbers of people who died that day was between 1,500 and 3,000. There in no way to know for sure how many died, since the authorities wittingly buried them in mass graves.

People respond differently to change, and independence is a strong notion to want to achieve. The affects of mass affluent and independent Black communities would have on the rest of the country are uncertain. The history of Greenwood has proven the possibility of success. Since the Civil War, Blacks have been the wards of this nation and will be treated unfairly until they can become independent of the European American's social, economic, and political machines. Independence is always preceded by a struggle, but the freedom at the end of the tunnel is always worth enduring that struggle.

The ideas of a " Black Wall Street" and segregation have long been forgotten. Black communities in America underestimate the value of loyalty to their community. It is because of the struggles of Black leaders in the past, Africans in America have advantages that they have never had before. Unfortunately, these newly found advantages are not being used to develop strength, pride, and respect within Black communities; instead it is used to further fund and contribute to the lifestyles of those who employ and supply African Americans.


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Many are afraid to come together knowing retaliation of some sorts would eventually ruin them from the powers that be.

I don't understand why people can't express their shame about ancestors behavior and have dialogue with others.

Unless you like the advantages it permitted you to have up until this day then I know why.

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Posted by playa2:

I don't understand why people can't express their shame about ancestors behavior and have dialogue with others.

Unless you like the advantages it permitted you to have up until this day then I know why.

Because slavery has existed in society long before the "400 years" of African-American slavery.
Because I don't have any shame about the behavior of people i don't control, and never knew.
Because my ancestors were not the white slavemen you describe.
Because i'm an american citizen that was born somewhere else, not in Europe.
Because my parents came here barely speaking English and built a life because of the value they provide to society.
Because no one owes me anything, i can go out and acheive everything. Not waiting on a promise or a dream to happen and save me.

One thing Jamaica recently instituted, in order to make more black millionaires, was to institute a national lottery. A dollar and a dream, baby. It is creating wealthy black families over there. Would be interesting to study what happens to these winners as they are almost all black people whose ancestors were oppressed and who are now being awarded massive sums of money. There's an interesting doctoral thesis for somebody right there.


[Edited by - kam77 on 05-10-2007 10:22 AM]

playa:
1) People don't talk about Mandela because they don't know much about Mandela. what you are suggesting is totally untrue.
2) You are looking to pick a fight where there isn't one. Everyone here is in agreement with you! People have been treated poorly throughout history. You waste time asking for reparations. It causes more problems.

Have you heard of what Idi Amin did to Asians in Africa? Or the British slave trade in Trinidad and Tobago? Exactly what you are saying happened to the African American community.

I sympathize with the plight of all that are wronged. I find it offensive however (not you, just people in general) people claim to have a monopoly of suffering. Why is it that only the people that have been forcefully displaced from their country that should be compensated? What about those in Iraq? What about those in Mexico and Central America that got over run by American Capitalism? What about Venezuela that now has a communist regime to make up for big business? Why not compensate those guys?

I hope nobody thinks i'm making this personal, I just want this truth to come out.

Silverfuel Indians here upstate already is starting to run all of WNY.

They have their Casinos up here along with numerous gas stations/CIGARETTES with clothing stores and grocery stores and resturants attached. They have purchased property NUMEROUS BUILDINGS in downtown Niagara falls NY.Even bought out Pizza hut and shut the RESTURANT down AND STILL BUYING MORE LAND.

Indians own the Largest and Tallest Hotel in Town.

You say I don't have right thinking? I think you are misinformed.

Atty General Spitzer is still trying to make the indians pay taxes on gas/cigarettes....Indians are making money hand over fist upstate.