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PresIke
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5/5/2007  4:58 PM
Hey eveyone, I'd really appreciate it if people could take this brief survey about attitudes on U.S. immmigration. I'd appreciate it if you would take the survey ONLY if you are an American citizen born in the United States. The survey is confidential and anonymous so your identity will not be tracked.

Here's a link to the survey:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=286903795493
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5/5/2007  6:12 PM
Tell you what. I can't take this survey, because it doesn't really say anything 'for me'. I like to think of my life as more than a statistic. People who were not born here? That's a tough one. There's a good chance that you are a decendant of immigrants yourself? I would like to ask you this question. Do you feel that you, possibly a decendant of immigrants, possibly 'illegal' immigrants, have a right to ask these questions of another 'human being'? On the subject what the survey describes as 'illegal immigrants', how is that possible? If you look at the origins of this countriies pre-Columbian popullations, you would see that the entire Southwest areas are the original 'homelands' of what is now politically called Mexican peoples. When I hear of Mexicans crossing over illegally' I think to myself 'they are coming home'. It's instinctive. Most of them don't even know why they come over to what is now the United States. I just felt that before anyone answered any questions on this survey, they should first ask the questions as to why are there 'illegal immigrants' crossing over to this country. Not too many people understand this.
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5/5/2007  7:26 PM
4949 - don't participate if you don't want to. You pulled the same act with my survey. You seem incapable of understanding research and a desire to learn what the consensus is on a given subject matter. Have some respect for the work of others. Nobody likes a dog peeing on their leg.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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5/5/2007  7:55 PM
Thanks for the response. I can understand and respect your interest in not wishing to participate, and actually appreciate your willingness to explain why.

Most of the questions, including the one where the word "illegally" is used, comes from another survey/study on attitudes towards immigration to the U.S. I should be clear that the questions do not mean to represent my own position on immigration or how one defines who is an "illegal" immigrant or not.

The primary goal is to see what are the driving forces for attitudes from those Americans born in the United States. This population was selected because studies have found that one who is already an immigrant will most likely be more supportive of immigrants, which would skew the data if we want to learn why those born here may support or oppose immigration (or particular aspects of it).

I also appreciate your comments about the language of the survey.
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4949
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5/5/2007  10:38 PM
Posted by PresIke:

Thanks for the response. I can understand and respect your interest in not wishing to participate, and actually appreciate your willingness to explain why.

Most of the questions, including the one where the word "illegally" is used, comes from another survey/study on attitudes towards immigration to the U.S. I should be clear that the questions do not mean to represent my own position on immigration or how one defines who is an "illegal" immigrant or not.

The primary goal is to see what are the driving forces for attitudes from those Americans born in the United States. This population was selected because studies have found that one who is already an immigrant will most likely be more supportive of immigrants, which would skew the data if we want to learn why those born here may support or oppose immigration (or particular aspects of it).

I also appreciate your comments about the language of the survey.

I consider you very intelligent by what you just said. It's very interesting witnessing the contrast of responses (just prior to yours) and realizing the extreme differences people have on the subject. I apologize if I said anything offensive in any way in my response, for I do find it difficult to participate in these kinds of surveys. But thank you anyway.
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5/5/2007  10:39 PM
Kamster, you are a good man.
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5/8/2007  12:52 AM
Sorry, I cannot participate
I am 10 years in US and I am a US Citizen
You do not have the spat for me in the survey
I get to US as refuge and start working after 6 month.
I learned English before coming to US and get to middle class income in 2-3 years.
It took me about 10 years to get the immigration going and 5 years to get citizenship
I cannot understand why people should struggle to get in US legally and illegal immigrants should get it right away. This doesn't make sense to me.
I strongly believe that any person should work hard to prosper and any free stuff will never produce anything good in us. However I have no problem with people coming illegally to US as they cannot do the job I do - they will need to get education and experience and I will be long retired then. LOL
You will hear same thing from almost any legal immigrant from Europe, India, China, and a lot of other developed countries. There is no competition and no problem for us.
I strongly believe that people like me always were and will always be a sole of this country as our gole is to make the life better for our children and everybody else.


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4949
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5/8/2007  11:45 PM
Yeah, making life better for you and your family is really becoming the only important thing around here in this country. Pretty much what it usually comes down to. Learning English first was your biggest advantage. Good job.
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5/9/2007  7:06 AM
I just took the survey and wondered why the questions were worded that way ?
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5/9/2007  8:37 AM
PresIke, living in the tri-state area, its hard to find people that are not somehow closely related to immigrants. IMO, thats very similar to being an immigrant. If you are closely related to someone that is an immigrant, you are generally going to feel the same way about this stuff.

Also, your survey seems to be rigged. It seems like you are looking for particular response. Every single question in your survey is controversial with a negative connotation to it. Your intentions might be well but the survey is not balanced. I would mix it up with some questions like "do you think immigrants are exploited" etc.

Out of interest, did you compose the survey? who is the survey for? is it a social experiment or will you use the data in a study of some sort? Are you getting people to participate from the NY metro area?

Since its obvious which way I would vote, I stayed out of it. I would absolutely love it if you could share the results with us. Thanks and hope this post doesnt annoy you in anyway.
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5/9/2007  9:39 AM
'SECRETS OF THE INVASION'
Why America's government invites rampant illegal immigration
Posted: May 1, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


It's widely regarded as America's biggest problem: Between 12 and 20 million aliens – including large numbers of criminals, gang members and even terrorists – have entered this nation illegally, with countless more streaming across our scandalously unguarded borders daily.

The issue polarizes the nation, robs citizens of jobs, bleeds taxpayers, threatens America's national security and dangerously balkanizes the country into unassimilated ethnic groups with little loyalty or love for America's founding values. Indeed, the de facto invasion is rapidly transforming America into a totally different country than the one past generations have known and loved.

And yet – most Americans have almost no idea what is really going on, or why it is happening.

While news reports depict demonstrations and debates, and while politicians promise "comprehensive border security programs," no real answers ever seem to emerge.

But there are answers. Truthful answers. Shocking answers.

In its groundbreaking May edition, WND's acclaimed monthly Whistleblower magazine reveals the astounding hidden agendas, plans and people behind America's immigration nightmare.

Titled "ALIEN NATION," the issue is subtitled "SECRETS OF THE INVASION: Why government invites rampant illegal immigration." Indeed, it reveals pivotal secrets very few Americans know. For example:


Did you know that the powerfully influential Council on Foreign Relations – often described as a “shadow government" – issued a comprehensive report last year laying out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter"?
Roughly translated: In the next few years, according to the 59-page report titled "Building a North American Community," the U.S. must be integrated with the socialism, corruption, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada. As Phyllis Schlafly reveals in this issue of Whistleblower: "This CFR document asserts that President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin 'committed their governments' to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas, on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the 'Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America' and assigned 'working groups' to fill in the details. It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American Summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet 'vigilantes' on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona."

The CFR report – important excerpts of which are published in Whistleblower – also suggests North American elitists begin getting together regularly, and presumably secretly, "to buttress North American relationships, along the lines of the Bilderberg or Wehrkunde conferences, organized to support transatlantic relations." The Bilderberg and Wehrkunde conferences are highly secret conclaves of the powerful. For decades, there have been suspicions that such meetings were used for plotting the course of world events and especially the centralization of global decision-making.


Did you know that radical immigrant groups – including the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA) and the National Council of La Raza (La Raza) – not only share a revolutionary agenda of conquering America's southwest, but they also share common funding sources, notably the Ford and Rockefeller foundations?
''California is going to be a Hispanic state," said Mario Obeldo, former head of MALDEF. "Anyone who does not like it should leave." And MEChA's goal is even more radical: an independent ''Aztlan,'' the collective name this organization gives to the seven states of the U.S. Southwest – Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas and Utah. So why would the Rockefeller and Ford foundations support such groups? Joseph Farah tells the story in this issue of Whistleblower.

Why have America's politicians – of both major parties – allowed the illegal alien invasion of this nation to continue for the last 30 years unabated? With al-Qaida and allied terrorists promising to annihilate major U.S. cities with nuclear weapons, with some big-city hospital emergency rooms near closure due to the crush of so many illegals, with the rapid spread throughout the U.S. of MS-13, the super-violent illegal alien gang – with all this and more, why do U.S. officials choose to ignore the laws of the land and the will of the people to pursue, instead, policies of open borders and lax immigration enforcement?

The answers to all this and much more are in Whistleblower's "ALIEN NATION" issue.

Is there hope? Or is America lost to a demographic invasion destined to annihilate its traditional Judeo-Christian culture, and to the ever-growing likelihood that nuclear-armed jihadists will cross our porous borders and wreak unthinkable destruction here?

There most definitely is hope, according to this issue of Whistleblower. Although most politicians of both major political parties have long since abdicated their responsibility for securing America's borders and dealing effectively with the millions already here illegally, there are a few exceptions – most notably Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo.

May's Whistleblower includes an exclusive sneak preview of Tancredo's forthcoming blockbuster book, "In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America’s Border and Security." In an extended excerpt, Whistleblower presents Tencredo's expert and inspired analysis of exactly how to solve the nation's most vexing problem.
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arkrud
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5/9/2007  12:33 PM
Let’s think of it comely.
Which job illegal immigrants can do for leaving aside criminal activities?
Seasonal agriculture, landscaping, work in restrains, small shops, etc.
These are the jobs which most of American citizens will not do. These are the jobs which cannot be paid legally by owners as they will go bankrupt if they will pay minimal wage, taxes, social security, etc.
Can anybody survive in US without working? I guess there are better chances in Mexico or Canada.

So problem really is to provide legal way for foreign work power work for less that minimal wage and right for certain businesses to be exempt from taxes and benefit fees.
Unfortunately the people who are actively making the politics in US are not concerned with these problems because majority of tax payers cannot see the illegal immigrants competing for their jobs.







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