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Ira
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Say we have the opportunity of getting one very good player in the off-season. That player can be either a highly skilled passing point guard, a very good and consisten 3 point shooting swing man, or a very strong defender in the low post. Which would you choose? Assume that the player is average in all other aspects of his game and is 25 years old.
Passing Point Guard
3 Point Shooting Swing Man
Low Post Defender
Other - Please specify
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Bippity10
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5/4/2007  1:58 PM
I think passing point guard is not a good title. It's okay to have a PG that can score. Isiah did, Magic did etc. What we need is a PG that can run the offense. That's why I voted for other.

To be honest though, best player available that fits any of these needs is a good thing. Two way player that could pass, shoot and defend would be ideal so that we aren't constantly looking for role players to do the jobs our "stars" can't do.
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Solace
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5/4/2007  2:08 PM
Biggest need is a solid core. You can't build a sensitive infrastructure on inferior parts. We need a star... otherwise we can't be the tallest building.

Honestly, though, I'm just happy the season is over. They were a disaster on the court, almost unwatchable. If not for the blue and orange uniforms, I would've thought I was watching the Atlanta Hawks.

[Edited by - Solace on May 04 2007 2:24 PM]
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5/4/2007  2:29 PM
I agree about getting a star, but that's unrealistic and defense is so damn important.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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5/4/2007  2:32 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

I agree about getting a star, but that's unrealistic and defense is so damn important.

Unrealistic, yes. But that's highly due to Isiah's method of "rebuilding".

Anyway, if we're sticking with the current squad and our goal is to slip into the playoffs as an eighth seed, than our main needs are:

1) a shooter - zone defenses killed us
2) a defender to make up for Curry & Frye's lame ass attempts at caring on that end of the court.
3) a cleric to remove the Knicks-only curse of injuries.
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5/4/2007  2:38 PM
We dont' really need a star. Just the appearence of one and the fans belief that we have one.

Isiah goes .500 and the tix can get raised.

Make the playoffs.

THen the next year we win 48 games and go two in the playoffs!

Expectaions are raised! Fans buy more tixs! Viewership is up!

Year after its the same, but profits are even higher!

Buy then Isiah in his 3 year of new deal and gets extended!

Any banners yet? Don't matter, thats not why we here.

Nets move to new building and go .500 but are rebuilding.

Guess who gets a banner first?
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5/4/2007  2:38 PM
We dont' really need a star. Just the appearence of one and the fans belief that we have one.

Isiah goes .500 and the tix can get raised.

Make the playoffs.

THen the next year we win 48 games and go two in the playoffs!

Expectaions are raised! Fans buy more tixs! Viewership is up!

Year after its the same, but profits are even higher!

Buy then Isiah in his 3 year of new deal and gets extended!

Any banners yet? Don't matter, thats not why we here.

Nets move to new building and go .500 but are rebuilding.

Guess who gets a banner first?
Masterplan
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5/4/2007  2:40 PM
i picked "low post defender" because i think it's the most immediate need. a shotblocker especially would have an impact even if it's a rookie playing 15 mpg. on the other hand, we're a lot more crowded on the wings and backcourt so IMO we have around 2 years to fill out those positions.
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5/4/2007  2:42 PM
What we need 1st and foremost is to see Curry improve.

Now, you don't need "stars" to win. Cmon Solace. Look at Utah.

What we need is VETERAN LEADERSHIP. There's a difference.


As for general needs, ya we need tougher and longer defenders, and better shooters.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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5/4/2007  2:52 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

What we need 1st and foremost is to see Curry improve.

Now, you don't need "stars" to win. Cmon Solace. Look at Utah.

What we need is VETERAN LEADERSHIP. There's a difference.


As for general needs, ya we need tougher and longer defenders, and better shooters.

Completely disagree on Utah. Kirilenko is a star, even if he's been much maligned this season. Without him, Utah loses the series 4-1. I also hate to admit it, but Boozer and Okur are among the tops at their positions also. Deron Williams is great too. The point about Utah is not every 'star' is known to be a star immediately.

The Knicks have no balance. There's a lot of changes that need to happen for a plan like the Knicks to work. Until then, we're the Atlayork Knickerhawks.
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5/4/2007  9:16 PM
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5/5/2007  1:46 PM
Posted by Solace:

Biggest need is a solid core. You can't build a sensitive infrastructure on inferior parts. We need a star... otherwise we can't be the tallest building.

Honestly, though, I'm just happy the season is over. They were a disaster on the court, almost unwatchable. If not for the blue and orange uniforms, I would've thought I was watching the Atlanta Hawks.

[Edited by - Solace on May 04 2007 2:24 PM]


I don't think we need a star necessarily, we just need 6-8 solid players that work well together. Pistons won a championship without any stars, but with 5 solid two-way players that knew how to play together. That's what I would like this team to develop into.

Most pressing need is a PF that can block shots and shut down his man. I think this is the most pressing need now because I am hopeful that Q can come back and that Collins and Balkman can develop jumpshots, which will reduce the need for us to add a 3pt SG.

[Edited by - thegame on 05-05-2007 1:49 PM]
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5/5/2007  1:58 PM
Stars only win when they have a solid supporting cast. Lest we forget all the so called stars that haven't won JACK SQUAT due to having inferior teams around them. I voted for a 3 pt shooter cuz at the spot we'll be picking I think that's where the most value will be. I like Collins and I think he'll be a solid player for us. i'd rather give him a bigger shot next year and with another weapon to pass to. With Collins in there Steph was able to concentrate on Scoring, which he did quite well, even on bad wheels. I can only imagine how we'll look with all of our guys back plus another 3pt specialist.

YES we could use a defensive PF, but we'll have to see what is available rather than use the pick for that need. Many times guys fall thru the cracks and maybe we'll catch a break. I'm also curious to see how Morris plays. Will he be more physical than Frye? I'm not expecting him to be the answer to all our problems, but he may be a useful alternative.
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5/5/2007  6:40 PM
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5/5/2007  6:57 PM
They need a new owner, new coach, new team, and in some cases, new fans.
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5/5/2007  7:02 PM
I say a consistant 3 point shooter. If Eddy can get single coverage, or atleast some slack from the defense, he is dominant down low. A 3 point shooter will keep the defense honest. Although none of this really matters unless the big man can learn to pass it to the outside.
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5/5/2007  9:30 PM
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5/6/2007  12:44 AM
Posted by MaTT4281:

I say a consistant 3 point shooter. If Eddy can get single coverage, or atleast some slack from the defense, he is dominant down low. A 3 point shooter will keep the defense honest. Although none of this really matters unless the big man can learn to pass it to the outside.

I have a feeling you're gonna get your wish. Don't forget that Curry is likely to add a face up game and this is what will open things up so that he can see defenders coming and that in addition of another shooter and solid PG play with Mardy I think this team is gonna make a big step up next year. Adding a PF who can play a more rugged game inside will really help. I don't know if Isiah will look to add another pick or a FA, but I'm hoping that Morris can develop and play with confidence. From what i've seen of him in college he looks like a more solid interior player than any of the PF's we have.
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5/6/2007  2:04 AM
when you say low post defender do you mean a solid on the ball post defender a-la kurt thomas style, or do you mean a low post dog who drifts and blocks shots a-la camby? cause either one we could use, so I voted for that. honestly though we really have needs everywhere; consistent shooting has been a problem, we need a PG who can take care of the ball because we were last in turnovers, and we gave up so many damn layups that we need a shot blocker. each need is pretty much equal, it would probably be easier to get a low post defender through free agency or a trade, people seem to be saying we can draft a shooter, and as far as turnovers go we can always develop mardy I guess. so yea there are holes everywere in this team but Defense and Turnovers take priority in my opinion.
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5/6/2007  2:18 AM
a shotblocker or a shooter would both be huge compliments to curry's game (ie back to the basket scoring).
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5/6/2007  3:01 AM
Posted by nixluva:

Stars only win when they have a solid supporting cast. Lest we forget all the so called stars that haven't won JACK SQUAT due to having inferior teams around them. I voted for a 3 pt shooter cuz at the spot we'll be picking I think that's where the most value will be. I like Collins and I think he'll be a solid player for us. i'd rather give him a bigger shot next year and with another weapon to pass to. With Collins in there Steph was able to concentrate on Scoring, which he did quite well, even on bad wheels. I can only imagine how we'll look with all of our guys back plus another 3pt specialist.

YES we could use a defensive PF, but we'll have to see what is available rather than use the pick for that need. Many times guys fall thru the cracks and maybe we'll catch a break. I'm also curious to see how Morris plays. Will he be more physical than Frye? I'm not expecting him to be the answer to all our problems, but he may be a useful alternative.

Stars only win with a good supporting cast... not necessarily, but yes, I'll indulge this, fine. What do role players win without a star, though? So if we can agree you need BOTH stars and role players, can we also agree that it's easier to get role players than stars? If we agree with that, then we can concur that the entire team is built wrong, we need to start over and get a star FIRST.

[Edited by - Solace on May 06 2007 04:12 AM]
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