during the bulls postgame press conference, a reporter asked skiles about the fouls on hinrich and if he was expecting more problems for him in miami. his response was that he didn't have problems with the officials or the calls (except for one that could've went either way) but he doesn't complain about the officials or blames them. and "i don't want my players thinking that way."

that's changing the culture.

isiah at some point not only blamed officials but the fans. and his players echo that sentiment.

i guess isiah is changing the culture here too...just a little differently i guess.

Accountability

vs

No Accountability

Oh please...When you win it's all good...Skiles change the culture..He is hated by most players that play for him..Just ask Curry...and Chandler..

[Edited by - holfresh on 04-24-2007 11:33 PM]

Posted by holfresh:

Oh please...When you win it's all good...Skiles change the culture..He is hated by most players that play for him..Just ask Curry...and Chandler..

[Edited by - holfresh on 04-24-2007 11:33 PM]

you are really relying on 2 kids who were drafted out of high school who have earning NOTHING in their respective careers to judge a guy? I don't really like Skiles and think he is not so good with big men, but really, Curry and Chandler?

Posted by Panos:

Posted by martin:

Posted by holfresh:

Oh please...When you win it's all good...Skiles change the culture..He is hated by most players that play for him..Just ask Curry...and Chandler..

[Edited by - holfresh on 04-24-2007 11:33 PM]

you are really relying on 2 kids who were drafted out of high school who have earning NOTHING in their respective careers to judge a guy? I don't really like Skiles and think he is not so good with big men, but really, Curry and Chandler?

Exactly, Curry didn't like him probably because Skiles got on his case for not being in shape and not working hard enough. Big wonder!

panos - i think it went something like this:

reporter: what can eddy do differently to get more rebounds?

skiles: jump

Eddy is a fat dump of **** that needs to be catered too, and forcefed and kills any flow to an offense.....

Isiah: Fans, Officials, Marbury, League has something against Eddy because of me, We are injured! I think the season would have been different


He really has all the attributes of a loser, if not for his playing career, and the team responded, but making public comments about the fans, the injuries and Eddy not making the Allstar team......

Culture is everything and its sad where the knicks are, Dolan included this year was a mulligan? are you ****ing kidding

Posted by jimimou:

Posted by Panos:

Posted by martin:

Posted by holfresh:

Oh please...When you win it's all good...Skiles change the culture..He is hated by most players that play for him..Just ask Curry...and Chandler..

[Edited by - holfresh on 04-24-2007 11:33 PM]

you are really relying on 2 kids who were drafted out of high school who have earning NOTHING in their respective careers to judge a guy? I don't really like Skiles and think he is not so good with big men, but really, Curry and Chandler?

Exactly, Curry didn't like him probably because Skiles got on his case for not being in shape and not working hard enough. Big wonder!

panos - i think it went something like this:

reporter: what can eddy do differently to get more rebounds?

skiles: jump

Friggin hilarious. Guys like Eddie don't play well for coaches that tell them the truth.

My guess is that Skiles saw an athletic, 300 lb behemoth averaging 5 rebounds a game and had a problem with it. Curry who has a Nixluva type attitude, felt he needed more time to build up and develop and mature to a point where he can average 7 rebounds a game, while Skiles probably feels like most of us not named Nixluva, that Curry could average 10 rebounds a game tomorrow if he applied himself and raised his standard. Skiles probably let him know about this on a regular basis. Curry hated it and instead of looking at Skiles and realizing they were on the same team and that Skiles wanted him to be a better player. He instead decided that Skiles was out to get him. A lot of high school and young college kids do this so it's understandable.

[Edited by - bippity10 on 25-04-2007 2:38 PM]

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by holfresh:

Oh please...When you win it's all good...Skiles change the culture..He is hated by most players that play for him..Just ask Curry...and Chandler..

[Edited by - holfresh on 04-24-2007 11:33 PM]

Its as simple as that when you win its all good.

I have to give Skiles credit, he makes his way work, and he wins. Acquiring disiplined players from strongly coached college programs definatly falls in line to what he does. Players like Lee & Collins are the players that we have who would fit and excell in that culture easily.

So how will Lee and Collins alike do sitting in Knicks culture? They will stink too or start looking to get out?

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by holfresh:

Oh please...When you win it's all good...Skiles change the culture..He is hated by most players that play for him..Just ask Curry...and Chandler..

[Edited by - holfresh on 04-24-2007 11:33 PM]

Its as simple as that when you win its all good.

I have to give Skiles credit, he makes his way work, and he wins. Acquiring disiplined players from strongly coached college programs definatly falls in line to what he does. Players like Lee & Collins are the players that we have who would fit and excell in that culture easily.

I think Paxton acquire the players and yes when you win it's all good...When Detroit won, LB was all good, when they lost he was gone...As long as Detroit wins, Dumars can ride out the bumps of selecting Darko number two...When the Lakers won, Kobe and Shaq "love fest" was all good...When they lost, it was broken up...As long as Skiles and the Bulls win, his abrasiveness will be tolerated, when they start losing, let see how quickly it comes to an end...

[Edited by - holfresh on 04-25-2007 6:21 PM]

Posted by djsunyc:

during the bulls postgame press conference, a reporter asked skiles about the fouls on hinrich and if he was expecting more problems for him in miami. his response was that he didn't have problems with the officials or the calls (except for one that could've went either way) but he doesn't complain about the officials or blames them. and "i don't want my players thinking that way."

that's changing the culture.

isiah at some point not only blamed officials but the fans. and his players echo that sentiment.

i guess isiah is changing the culture here too...just a little differently i guess.

Phil Jackson and Pat Riley are the biggest winners/whinners this league has seen. It goes both ways...

Oh please...When you win it's all good...Skiles change the culture..He is hated by most players that play for him..Just ask Curry...and Chandler..

The object is not to make best friends with your players, lower expectations, and be happy b/c players "try hard" in blowouts. The object is to win basketball games.