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Has anyone ever' been right?
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4949
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4/24/2007  11:05 PM
Of all of the boards and the posters I have seen in the last three years, I have never seen any one of your trades scenarios, or draft picks ever come true. Have any of you's ever gotten one right? I mean of all the players we have right now, including the GM-coach, did any of you pick them to be a Knick?

I see all of this stuff on k-mart and Artest and many, many others, and we never get any of them. I know it's fun' to talk and fantasize about, but has any of your arguments, your pushing for a certain move ever come true? Now this question does not include official pre-talk of moves that were either made eventually or gone by the way side.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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4/24/2007  11:30 PM
I was right about Isiah from the very beginning.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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4/24/2007  11:35 PM
No. No one has ever been right. About anything.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 04-24-2007 23:35]
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4/24/2007  11:36 PM
I was talking about positive stuff, but that's a good start. As a matter of fact, I remembe many people being not too happy about Jerome coming here either, and you guys were right on the money. A few were even right about Jeffries being a mistake also, now that I think of it. And Malik? Yeah, him to.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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4/24/2007  11:43 PM
That Malik trade was atrocious, but not as atroucious as the Taylor trade...

We gave UP a pick just to have him grace our presence.


James signing - horrible.

Jefferies signing - underwhelming.

Crawford trade - not thrilled about it.

Curry trade?

Self-explanatory.


As the Trump WOULD say........."YA FIRED"
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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4/25/2007  11:56 AM
Recently I was right about the following:

JJ-As obvious as he-ll

Stevie-More obvious than JJ

Jalen-Not a bad player, just not sure what the thought process was behind the trade

Team Dynamic-early bickering, struggling with minutes, guys not complimenting each other.

Front office-7 years ago I said that in the coming years we would see plenty of scapegoating, fingerpointing, coach firings. When we brought in losing players I said fans would still somehow be shocked and frustrated that the team lost games.

Isiah and his minions-That Isiah would eventually be forced to do the things the haters had been begging him to do 3 years ago. The minions would talk about how brilliant Isiah was for doing it 3 years later.

LB-The match with that roster was going to be a train wreck. Warned against Phoenix EAst for months and was either ignored, or called a hater. I told you so!!!!

Allanfan20-Would still be my biotch 5 years later.

I was wrong about the following:

JJ2-I did not think he'd have a great overall impact on the team. Thought that was more Isiah hype. I did think he'd help us develop a defensive identity. 100% wrong on that one.

Frye-Never thought he'd be a star, but thought he'd have an impact this year. There is still time I guess.

LB-Thought he'd tear the team down and build it back up. Not tear it down and then tear it down more and then be canned

Stephon-Thought he'd be gone after the LB signing.

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4/25/2007  12:25 PM
Rights:

Francis and Marbury would never work.

Balkman would rise above expectations.

Isiah trying to overcoddle his players wont work, with the guys we have.

Q would be a great leader.

Bip is 90 years old and STILL displays egocentrism.

Francis is a bad basketball player.

We'll never be a good defensive team with the players we have. And so far, I've been right about needing to tear the whole thing down.

Dolan needs to go.

The Curry hype has been overrated to an extreme.

WRONGS:

Frye would take a step closer to becoming a 20/8 player and would show much improved defense.

Collins would see absolutely no light of day despite anything. I would have been right had it not been for injuries though.

Crawford would start playing like an all star.

Isiah would LOVE Nate.

Marbury and Francis would be gone.

[Edited by - Allanfan20 on 25-04-2007 12:27 PM]
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4/25/2007  12:42 PM
I was right about JVG lasting effect on this franchise when he bum rushed the coaching position being ewings flunky that brought in Laydumb and all the bogus transaction up until now . VanGundy had to hire pat ewing for a few seasons as an assistant just to pay him back
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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4/25/2007  1:35 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Rights:


Bip is 90 years old and STILL displays egocentrism.


[Edited by - Allanfan20 on 25-04-2007 12:27 PM]

The Bip finds this statement to be 100% false. But then again the Bip doesn't really care what you or anyone else thinks.
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4/25/2007  1:54 PM
We need to start bookmarking some of these posts after some of these moves and trades. Everyone is right and everyone is wrong on this board from time to time but there are some that need to be remembered.

My favorite group is the "we are going to win 41-46 games this year" group that is now telling everyone that there expectations are too high and that everyone needs to be patient.

Another group is the "we have the best depth in the league" group that now blames injuries for the record.

The other group is the one that called me a hater for asking the summer question "would Stevie and Marbs work?" but are now screaming the tune of "trade Stevie".

Another group is the one that said I was a hater during the summer for saying that major factors like chemistry, an unbalanced roster and inevitable injuries would keep us from winning 41-45 games. But are now saying these are the reasons we didn't win as if they were the first to think of this idea. I love the group that is 1,2 and 3 years behind.



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4/25/2007  2:00 PM
There's one undeniable rule of thumb. The more wrong a person's been the bigger fan they claim themselves to be.

I don't know who's been right most on this board, but if you want to know who's been wrong most follow the most sanctimonious fans.

[Edited by - blueseats on 04-25-2007 2:03 PM]
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4/25/2007  2:03 PM
Right
-Crawford, Francis, Jefferies, Frye, Taylor, Rose, James, every isiah trade, Isiah, Dolan, etc. Balkman needed more minutes, Eddy Curry

Wrong
-Harsh critic of Balkman seleciton at the time, Collins
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4/25/2007  6:17 PM
I am right about us needing Artest
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4/25/2007  6:21 PM
A few had guessed the Sprewell for Van Horn trade that eventually happened... but the guess was a few months pre-mature.

Other than that, I think every other Layden trade was a complete and utter shock and Isiah's trades have been dumb as hell. The only other one I think a decent number of people guessed was the Knicks sending an expiring to the Raps for Jalen + a #1. Except, most people guessed it would be Penny to the Raps, but we used AD instead.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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4/25/2007  6:27 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Rights:

Francis and Marbury would never work.

Balkman would rise above expectations.

Isiah trying to overcoddle his players wont work, with the guys we have.

Q would be a great leader.

Bip is 90 years old and STILL displays egocentrism.

Francis is a bad basketball player.

We'll never be a good defensive team with the players we have. And so far, I've been right about needing to tear the whole thing down.

Dolan needs to go.

The Curry hype has been overrated to an extreme.

WRONGS:

Frye would take a step closer to becoming a 20/8 player and would show much improved defense.

Collins would see absolutely no light of day despite anything. I would have been right had it not been for injuries though.

Crawford would start playing like an all star.

Isiah would LOVE Nate.

Marbury and Francis would be gone.

[Edited by - Allanfan20 on 25-04-2007 12:27 PM]
My list is actually much shorter.
Right: Everything
Wrong: Nothing
Has anyone ever' been right?

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