I liked the prgress the Knicks made and I realize that the KNicks have a few good piecies that they can work around. Curry, Lee and Crawford are good players and should be kept. Marbury is untradeable so we need not worry about him as he has showed that he can be a team type of player. Fyre is a nice player but to inconsistent and probably will never be an impact defensive player that I envisioned him to be. With the energence of Lee it looks like Frye can be traded for the right price. I suggest a trade of Frye, Jefferies and Nate for Artest. This would solidify the sf position as Q-Rich is unreliable with his back. The next move should be to rid the team of malcontents and Francis fits that bill. Nuggests are looking to move Kenyon Martin for anything right about now and Francis for Martin would make sense as the Knicks need to make team with some attitude and toughness. Yes I know Kenyon is coming off Knee surgery and its the micro fracture variety but the one thing Kenyon hasn't been doing lately is playing on it which means chances are good that he has healed up properly.

I really like what Lee brought to the team this year good hustle and interior play on the offensive side but lets face it he couldn't hit the broad side of the barn with his jumper. And his defense left a lot to be desired, Thats where Kmart steps in he is a defensive presence as he is known to block a few shots and play tight dee on the opposing pfs. With Artest and Kmart playing along side Curry it will make Curry that much more tougher and aggressive as those two players are known for their aggressiveness. With that said imagine a team of young players along with vets that are aggressive. Lineup:

Artest/Balkman/Q-Rich sf
Kmart/Lee/Balkman pf
Curry/Morris/JJ c
Crawford/Q-Rich/Artest sg
Marbury/Collins/Crawford pg

Anyway you look at it the Knicks have young players playing a key role which we all want to see and you have Veteran players that can take them under and give them the edge they need to take it to the next level that Isiah keeps talking about. We all have to be senseable and know that some of the Young player although they have shown some signs of being good player need to be brought along slowly no need to rush them. This would be a great team and would challenge for a Championship come next year there is no doubt in my mind.

While I understand you reasoning based on the skills of the players you want to bring in, I don't think we have to take any more chances with players coming off surgery or with guys that have mental issues like Artest. Why risk that? If we make those moves and it blows up there's no fixing that. It's those kinds of moves that isiah is already getting blasted for making. If we stay the course with the young guys in 2 years we'll have cap space and we can make better decisions at that time. This way allows us more freedom and with FAR less risk.

I would welcome the idea of having k-mart and artest if the knicks could subtract the players you mentioned. Thing about it, those moves would have to be perfect as nixluva eluded to. Chances are they come to NY and k-mart breaks his leg again and artest gets arrested or does something off the chain that gets him suspended.

Ah baby, k-mart and artest would fit so well with this group. The risk is just too great. Just imagine that group with the way isiah wants curry to post while the rest move the ball and make plays that would just be sick. Instant playoffs and the knicks could beat anyone that's in the playoffs this year with that line-up.

Sigh.

I would say OK on the one condition that there are provisions-separately-that if KMart breaks his leg or Artest does his crap and they can't play or fulfill the contracts the Knicks get unconditional first round picks.

KMart and Artest should be a priority

...for all mental health professionals!

Posted by bitty41:

Two head cases who think they are better than they are sounds perfect for this team. Hey wait the do they have huge long-term contracts with trade kickers and are on the downside of their career. If they are it sounds like a match made in heaven.

So now I feel like Ricky retardo cuz I couldn't wait to try them out on playstation.

FYI? K-mart and artest fill in the blanks well on the video game knicks.

Posted by Bonn1997:

I thought K-Mart was dead

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 04-22-2007 3:35 PM]

he resurected himself as vmart

or allowing isiah thomas to make any trades for that matter

Posted by K22:

Kenyon Martin? In a NYK jersey? Hell no.

Haven't we already learned our lesson about trading for broken-down Denver power forwards?

Wasn't Camby a broken down pf too. I mean he rearely played the entire season and was always getting him self hurt for long periods of time. Kmart is so ideal for the Knicks he has been hurt but players have recovered from micro fracture alright, look at the players that have recovered well from the surgery, Amare, Randolf, JKidd, Webber seems to be alright and playing well. The thing with Kmart is that he isn't playing and probably healed up better than most of the players I mentioned. Only one that didn't recover well from the surgery is Allan Houston because he rushed back. Whats the worst that could happen if the KNicks get KMart he hurts himself and Lee has to start and Malik Rose will become the backup with Balkman filling in. No that much lost in the scheme of things.But imagine if he is say 90% of what he was that would make a highly useful player.

Kmart had his second microfracture surgery. I don't believe that there is another player in the nba who has had this surgery done twice. He will never be what he was. He also benefitted tremendously from playing with Kidd and I think the Nuggets thought that they could duplicate his success with Andre Miller. You are talking about a guy who has had more major reconstructive surgery on his knees than McDyess. He also has a huge contract and has been a malcontent at times. Kmart is a player who relies on athleticism, intimidation, and a pass first point guard to be successful. He was intimidating because of his athleticism and dirty play, not his size. I don't think Isiah even entertains the thought of acquiring him unless he can dump Francis, James and bring back a first round pick. I still would love to have Artest as a Knick and I still cannot believe the Knicks passed on him for Weiss. However, Thomas coached him and I think he knows that he either can't handle him or the level of his emotional disturbance is so extreme that he is not worth what he brings to the court.

Only way I would take Kmart is for Q and JJ2. Those are the two wrost contracts on this team right now and the only two I would give up. And Artest is Certified Crazy. We don't have the in team structure to contain Nate, why should we go after king Unstable????