Lee is my favorite player and one of the reasons why I watch the knicks. Some of his skills are undeniable such as his ambidextrous finishing skills and his smart bb iq.

However, you have to wonder if his rpm(rebounds per minute) aren't influenced by two very important factors. [Before I get into it I have noticed that he isn't that great of a rebounder against some starters like rasheed wallace that are lenthier than him. He has played a lot of time this season against back-ups.]

1)Eddy Curry is a horrible rebounder. He played 35 mpg this season and only gets rebounds that bounce to him. When lee and Q went out he experienced no increase or decrease in rebounds(obviously because he only gets the rebounds that bounce to him). At the same time, a guy like Lee is clearly benefitting from playing with a guy that doesn't move to get rebounds and plays close to the basket on offense and defense(that is he is in the best position to get a rebound.)

2)We are a poor fg% team from the field. I'm not talking about the easy baskets that our good guard penetration supplies to curry, lee, etc. I'm talking about our outside shooting. Jamal Crawford shot like what 40% this season and I am pretty sure that marbury was pretty poor from outside too. Even Q takes it down low occasionally and gets an easy basket, and his percentage is pretty low too. This creates a lot of opportunities for offensive rebounds(due to poor outside shooting), which lee is very good at getting.

So if we sell lee when his value is high is it that bad? Just a thought and I was curious what you guys thought?

Lee is more than just a rebounder though. He represents the Knicks very well. He is a very smart and intangible player. Since he was also drafted by us I would like him to stay with the Knicks and be knick grown talent and part of a knicks championship team in the future.

There is nothing more satisfing that watching players drafted by your team formed together winning games.

if Lee is traded, there will be riots in the streets

I don't know if playing with Curry is a factor or not, but I can tell you that Lee's rebounding numbers are not artificially inflated due to more rebounding opportunities. In fact, if you take rebounding opportunities into account, Lee is tied with Tyson Chandler for tops in the league.

Lee is also second in the entire NBA in true shooting %, a stat which combines 2 pointers, 3 pointers, and free throws to get an overall sense of how efficiently a player scores. (Nash is first.)

So we're talking about a player with multiple elite level skills here. No way you trade Lee unless someone makes an outlandish offer.

I'd only trade Lee for a Top 6-8 Pick in this year's lottery (Noah/Wright/Horford), or for an All-Star that fits a niche.

for sh ts and giggles...would you trade lee in a package for marion?

Posted by highfivesucka:

if Lee is traded, there will be riots in the streets

True as that is, Isiah get caught up in alot more than performance when filling out the line-up. He has given Nate AND Channing, and guys who don't deserve chances(Jefferies) have been treated with more respect than Lee.

I really would love to keep Lee here, but I don't see him hear long term. At least not with Isiah here.

P.S. This has NOTHING to do with him being white.

I don't want Lee traded, but we won 23 and then 33 games so noone should be off limits. The trouble is that with him or Balkman as a PF we are looking for a SF that can be a shotblocker. Aren't too many of those out there.

Noah is Anderson Verajeo.

Posted by TheGame:

I see no reason to trade Lee. I would try to package Frye and our pick and move up into the 10-12 range and have an outside shot at Brewer or Conley.

[Edited by - thegame on 04-23-2007 1:03 PM]

I think a move like this would go far to quiet down the herd. Personally I would move Nate before I'd move Channing though.