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4/17/2007  1:44 PM
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The NBA suspended referee Joey Crawford indefinitely on Tuesday after he ejected Tim Duncan on Sunday in the Spurs' game against the Mavericks.

Crawford's suspension will at least cover the rest of the regular season and the playoffs.

"Joey Crawford's handling of this situation failed to meet the standards of professionalism and game management we expect of NBA referees," NBA commissioner David Stern said. "Especially in light of similar prior acts by this official, a significant suspension is warranted. Although Joey is consistently rated as one of our top referees, he must be held accountable for his actions on the floor, and we will have further discussions with him following the season to be sure he understands his responsibilities."

Crawford hit Duncan with two technical fouls just 1:16 apart late in the third quarter of San Antonio's 91-86 loss to the Dallas Mavericks on Sunday. The second came while he was laughing on the bench and meant an automatic ejection, just the second of his nine-year career.

"He looked at me and said, 'Do you want to fight? Do you want to fight?"' Duncan said. "If he wants to fight, we can fight. I don't have any problem with him, but we can do it if he wants to. I have no reason why in the middle of a game he would yell at me, 'Do you want to fight?"'

The Spurs sorely missed their top player down the stretch, failing to score a basket over the last 6:32 while allowing a 9-0 run to end the game. The loss ended their hopes of catching Phoenix for the No. 2 seed and home-court advantage if they meet in the second round.

While this was a thrilling game between Western Conference powers, the story of the day turned out to be Duncan vs. Crawford.

"He came into the game with a personal vendetta against me," said Duncan, who had 16 points, seven rebounds, six assists and two blocks in his limited action. "It had to be because I didn't do anything the entire game. I said three words to him and the three words were, 'I got fouled' on a shot. ... That's all I said to him the entire game."

Crawford disagreed, saying that "he was complaining the whole game."

"And then he went over to the bench and he was over there doing the same stuff behind our back," Crawford said. "I hit him with one (technical) and he kept going over there, and I look over there and he's still complaining. So I threw him out."

Crawford spoke to a pool reporter before Duncan spoke to the media. Asked about Duncan not thinking he deserved to be tossed, Crawford said: "That's his opinion. He said nothing when he was walking off the court and he called me a piece of [expletive]. Is that nothing?"

There is common sense in this world after all.

[Edited by - K22 on 04-17-2007 1:45 PM]
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4/17/2007  1:47 PM
hahaha lmao Now he can giggle at the paychecks he will not be recieving
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4/17/2007  1:50 PM
I feel no pity for this asswipe, how many games did he screw us over the years
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4/17/2007  1:50 PM
The Spurs are going to have some really bad calls made against them during the playoffs.

Cuban must be loving this.
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4/17/2007  2:03 PM
about time! some of the nba refs are a joke!
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4/17/2007  2:05 PM
Posted by islesfan:

The Spurs are going to have some really bad calls made against them during the playoffs.

Cuban must be loving this.

Why would you assume that Crawford is beloved by all officials. And you assume that they don't have any sort of professional integrity. Way for Stern to step up to this issue. Though I wonder how much it had to do with the fact that it was Tim Duncan and not Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.
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4/17/2007  2:10 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:

The Spurs are going to have some really bad calls made against them during the playoffs.

Cuban must be loving this.

Why would you assume that Crawford is beloved by all officials. And you assume that they don't have any sort of professional integrity. Way for Stern to step up to this issue. Though I wonder how much it had to do with the fact that it was Tim Duncan and not Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.

It would probably have been handled differently. Rasheed and Ron would not have gotten the benefit of the doubt in this situation like Duncan. But that's life. Reputation is always a factor.
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4/17/2007  2:12 PM
Crawford has been awful for a long time.


I remember he ejected some player i want to say Payton a couple yrs ago and the player said;


"He isn't capable of doing his job anymore, he's out of his league"
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4/17/2007  2:27 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:

The Spurs are going to have some really bad calls made against them during the playoffs.

Cuban must be loving this.

Why would you assume that Crawford is beloved by all officials. And you assume that they don't have any sort of professional integrity. Way for Stern to step up to this issue. Though I wonder how much it had to do with the fact that it was Tim Duncan and not Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.

I didn't say all. And I think it's very plausible that some officials wouldn't be happy with this precedent and will start calling games involving the Spurs very closely. With Duncan not getting the benefit of the doubt the way he has in the past.

Why don't you think that that's plausible?
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4/17/2007  2:50 PM
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4/17/2007  3:11 PM
"We are not getting any satisfaction out of this. Crawford is always one of our highest rated officials. We just did what we had to do." -Stern
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4/17/2007  3:24 PM
I'm sorry but the guy looks like a freak and now, apparently is acting like one. Maybe *early retirement* and dont come to any NBA arenas any time soon is in order?
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4/17/2007  3:24 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:

The Spurs are going to have some really bad calls made against them during the playoffs.

Cuban must be loving this.

Why would you assume that Crawford is beloved by all officials. And you assume that they don't have any sort of professional integrity. Way for Stern to step up to this issue. Though I wonder how much it had to do with the fact that it was Tim Duncan and not Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.

I didn't say all. And I think it's very plausible that some officials wouldn't be happy with this precedent and will start calling games involving the Spurs very closely. With Duncan not getting the benefit of the doubt the way he has in the past.

Why don't you think that that's plausible?

"No b.s., Joe’s just a real, real guy, as genuine as they come," says NBA ref Bob Delaney. Duke Callahan, another NBA official, says, "Joe’s Joe, you know? And I love him for it," a sentiment echoed by NBA ref Mark Wunderlich, when he says, "Joe’s an a–hole, but I love him."

"I am an a–hole," insists a smiling Crawford.

Although you could probably find a couple coaches or players to agree with that, his fellow officials have a lot of affection for the man. One in particular, Joe took a shine to. When Steve Javie entered the league 18 years ago, Crawford saw something familiar in the fiery rookie with the NFL officiating father.

(These quotes are from 2004)

[Edited by - mythfaze on 04-17-2007 3:27 PM]

[Edited by - mythfaze on 04-17-2007 3:28 PM]
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4/17/2007  3:54 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:

The Spurs are going to have some really bad calls made against them during the playoffs.

Cuban must be loving this.

Why would you assume that Crawford is beloved by all officials. And you assume that they don't have any sort of professional integrity. Way for Stern to step up to this issue. Though I wonder how much it had to do with the fact that it was Tim Duncan and not Rasheed Wallace or Ron Artest.

I didn't say all. And I think it's very plausible that some officials wouldn't be happy with this precedent and will start calling games involving the Spurs very closely. With Duncan not getting the benefit of the doubt the way he has in the past.

Why don't you think that that's plausible?

You said "are". I am not nitpicking here but you stated as such. It is plausible and as a NBA fan I wouldn't like to think that way. I don't care for Crawford or Javey because it looks as though they wear their feelings on their sleeves when they officiate games. But to think that officials will now make bias calls one way or the other based on the suspension of a fellow ref is not a pretty picture.
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4/17/2007  4:02 PM
BTW, one of the weirdest ejections I ever saw was a January 1995 Knick game. Patrick Ewing was ejected from a Nets game (I think he got into it with DC). Derrick Harper was at the foul line shooting free throws about 30 secs later. Somehow he picked up a T before his first free throw attempt while on the line and picked up the second right after he made the shot. He was ejected. Does anyone remember that game? That was just strange and I recall Marv Albert just as surprised and shocked. Harper's face was priceless.
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4/17/2007  4:13 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

BTW, one of the weirdest ejections I ever saw was a January 1995 Knick game. Patrick Ewing was ejected from a Nets game (I think he got into it with DC). Derrick Harper was at the foul line shooting free throws about 30 secs later. Somehow he picked up a T before his first free throw attempt while on the line and picked up the second right after he made the shot. He was ejected. Does anyone remember that game? That was just strange and I recall Marv Albert just as surprised and shocked. Harper's face was priceless.

It was actually in April 95. I found it on a history of NBA fines. And the player was Mahorn not DC that Ewing got into with.

4/4/95
The NBA fined Rick Mahorn (NJ) $7,000 and Patrick Ewing (NY) $3,500 for
their altercation in Sunday's NY-NJ game. Derek Harper (NY) was also
fined $5,000 for comments made to the refs after being ejected (while
he was at the free throw line).
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4/17/2007  4:52 PM
About time the NBA did something about insane referees with mental issues. Nice move.
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4/17/2007  11:49 PM
I remember Reggie MIller once saying on TNT that officials get fined by the NBA just like the players for making mistakes all the time, you just never hear about it in the press. very interesting about this though, I was watching that game and thought Crawford was insane for tossing Duncan.
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4/18/2007  1:00 AM
From Marc Stein's blog on ESPN

Kudos to my colleague Chris Sheridan. He called it. Sheridan wrote in the immediate aftermath of Sunday's scenes in Dallas that referee Joey Crawford would be suspended for the rest of the season. I certainly expected the league to suspend him and even make the punishment public this time, as opposed to the usual Cone of Silence lowered over any dose of ref discipline, but I honestly didn't anticipate such a punitive step. I get the sense that the Spurs and Tim Duncan didn't expect it, either.

But now?

Informed sources say Crawford's NBA career is likely over.

The terms of his indefinite suspension call for Crawford, a 31-year veteran who has refereed 38 NBA Finals games, to meet with league officials at season's end to assess his future.

But Crawford made it clear to NBA executive vice president Stu Jackson on Tuesday that he would eject Duncan again if the circumstances were the same.

Crawford likewise informed superiors (including NBA commissioner David Stern) and fellow referees via e-mail Tuesday that "if my employer does not think that was acceptable, I have a problem" reffing in the future. Crawford has maintained from the start that Duncan deserved two technicals for what he deemed to be disrespecting the game by "laughing [at] and mocking the officials."

Crawford also blasted fellow referee Dick Bavetta in the e-mail obtained by ESPN.com, hinting at divisions among referees between those who do and don't support Bavetta and writing that maybe Bavetta will wind up as the crew chief in Game 7 of the NBA "which is a travesty in itself you even being in the finals."

Stern, in an appearance on Tuesday's "Pardon The Interruption" on ESPN, acknowledged Crawford's discontent, telling co-hosts Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon: "In fairness, I would say that [Crawford] doesn't think he did anything wrong and probably doesn't wish to work in the NBA any more."

Crawford's father (Shag Crawford) and brother (Jerry Crawford) were/are longtime baseball umpires. No referee in the NBA is more put off by being shown up than Joey Crawford. But that has always been the knock on an official that the NBA, in its press release to announce the suspension, felt compelled to remind us "is consistently rated as one of our top referees." More than a few times in his three decades with a whistle, obviously, Crawford's calls and game management have overshadowed the actual game.

The league does and will always have big problems with that approach, as it stressed to Crawford in a heated meeting after the 2003 playoffs. That's when Crawford ejected then-Mavs coach Don Nelson from a Western Conference finals game in San Antonio for refusing Crawford's order to return to the bench and standing defiantly at midcourt. Crawford was sternly warned that any repeat offenses would be dealt with severely.

Stern obviously wasn't kidding.

The Commish gave referees license to call more technical fouls this season, in the league's ongoing attempt to improve its image, but clearly doesn't equate anything that happened after Duncan's first technical Sunday with being tougher on the players. Hitting Duncan with a second T for laughter on the bench? Inviting him to fight, whether it was a literal or figurative invitation? On PTI, Stern said: "Joey knows our view on, shall I say, his loss of control. You just can't keep doing that."

Crawford, meanwhile, seemed to be saying goodbye in his message to bosses and colleagues, writing: "Please do not be sad for me [as] I have had a great run and a great career and NOBODY will ever take that from me."

He also likened his situation to longtime ref Jake O'Donnell, who was barred by the league from working the 1995 NBA Finals after refusing to shake hands with Houston's Clyde Drexler before a '95 playoff game and later ejecting Drexler. O'Donnell never refereed in the league again.

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What a douchebag Crawford is.

Good riddance.
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4/18/2007  11:56 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by islesfan:

The Spurs are going to have some really bad calls made against them during the playoffs.

Cuban must be loving this.

Why would you assume that Crawford is beloved by all officials. And you assume that they don't have any sort of professional integrity.

Maybe for the same reason that Duncan felt a need to say this today:

Spurs star Tim Duncan said he hopes he and his teammates "get a fair shake" from officials in the wake of NBA referee Joey Crawford's suspension.

"I didn't do anything to invoke the reaction that he gave to me and what he did, so I had nothing to do with that," Duncan said after practice Wednesday. "So hopefully they take that into consideration and we get a fair shake from everybody."
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