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3/24/2003  9:43 AM
From LA Times (Mark Heisler):

A More Abroad-Minded Draft
In our annual salute to the NCAA tournament, here's a mock draft of everyone, although, after last season's horrors, we're no longer going younger than 18.

The top six are no scoop, because everyone is in general agreement, but after that everyone is on their own.

This will be a big draft for international players, a record six of whom were first-round picks last spring. The colleges have been picked clean of big men and the pros are leery of 6-foot-8 widebodies such as Mississippi State's Mario Austin and Georgetown's Mike Sweetney. As a general manager said, "With those guys, it's pick your poison."

Without early entry, of course, Tyson Chandler, Eddy Curry, Amare Stoudemire, Jonathan Bender, Eddie Griffin, DeSagana Diop, Steven Hunter, Zach Randolph, Drew Gooden, Chris Wilcox, Jared Jeffries, Chris Borchardt, Carlos Boozer, Jamal Sampson and D'Angelo Collins would be in college and it would be a different story.

Even with general managers now going abroad personally, after years of trusting local bird dogs, it's hard to project foreign players, who typically make big moves on the pre-draft circuit.

In other words, I probably didn't get it right this year either, but it gave me something to do. Thanks to the six pro guys who helped me.

1. LeBron James, 6-7, 231, St. Vincent-St. Mary High, Akron, Ohio. His senior year was off the hook (kid talk), but he's no hype. Athleticism, skills, a grown man's body and poise make him the most advanced prep ever.

2. Darko Milicic, 7-0, 245, Hemofarm Vrsac, Serbia and Montenegro. Young, skilled, needs a year or two, but has a big upside.

3. Emeka Okafor, 6-9, 240, sophomore, Connecticut. Game-changing shot blocker (4.7 a game) who's coming on offense (7.9 as a freshman to 15.5). Says he'll stay for his junior year, after which he'd be the top pick in the draft.

4. Carmelo Anthony, 6-8, 220, freshman, Syracuse. If freshmen got player-of-the-year consideration, he'd be it. Scores (23 a game), rebounds (10, a lot in college, especially for a small forward) and handles the ball. Could become Glenn Robinson or better.

5. Chris Bosh, 6-10, 210, freshman, Georgia Tech. Doesn't have pro body, but he's already a standout with the one he has.

6. Chris Kaman, 7-0, 255, junior, Central Michigan. We haven't seen a late bloomer like this in a while. Think: a faster Zydrunas Ilgauskas.

7. T.J. Ford, 5-10, 165, sophomore, Texas. Mind-blower. The pros scorn tiny point guards who can't shoot but flat-out, to a man, love him. Think of a playmaker version of Allen Iverson. Says a general manager: "There are very few personalities who impact winning and losing like T.J."

8. Mikael Pietrus 6-7, 201, Pau Orthez, France. Rangy, do-everything wing player.

9. Pavel Podkolzin, 7-4, 300, Varese, Italy. Old enough to make himself eligible for the draft, although he hasn't said he will. Very young (just turned 18), very large prospect.

10. Kirk Hinrich, 6-3, 190, senior, Kansas. Efficient point guard who shot 42% on three-pointers.

11. Travis Outlaw, 6-9, 195, Starkville (Miss.) High. Major athlete, thought to be coming out.

12. Dwyane Wade, 6-4, 210, junior, Marquette. Came from off the radar screen. Athlete who does everything except shoot (30% on three-pointers), although that's worrisome for a shooting guard.

13. Luke Ridnour, 6-2, 175, junior, Oregon. Size and strength are concerns. Admirers see a coach's-son version of Jason Williams, with swagger, good fundamentals and range (46% on three-pointers over his last 12 games).

14. Reece Gaines, 6-6, 205, senior, Louisville. Move to the point set up Cardinals' season, and Coach Rick Pitino loves him. Pros are split between those who agree and those who think he's just a nice player.

15. Jarvis Hayes, 6-7, 230, junior, Georgia. Shot 42% on three-pointers. Limited ballhandler, which is a problem, because he'll probably be a guard.

16. Nick Collison, 6-9, 255, senior, Kansas. Limited but had great season. All-around game and, unlike your laid-back, Raef LaFrentz-type Jayhawk, throws himself all over the court.

17. Brian Cook, 6-10, 240, senior, Illinois. Toughness is a question after three deferential seasons and breakout senior year. Legit size and skills.

18. Boris Diaw, 6-6, 200, Pau Orthez, France. That's some backcourt because the other guard, Pietrus, is projected as a first-rounder too. Diaw is supposed to be a Jason Richardson-level athlete.

19. Anderson Varejao, 6-10, 230, FC Barcelona. Young Brazilian power forward. Opinions vary on skill level. Says a European scout: "When he works out, he's going to stun people."

20. Kendrick Perkins, 6-10, 285, Beaumont (Texas) Ozen High. Pros are flocking to next week's McDonald's All-Star game to see how all the "Baby Shaqs" compare.

21. Josh Howard, 6-6, 203, senior, Wake Forest. Made a big move as a senior.

22. Zarko Cabarkapa, 6-11, 220, Buducnost, Serbia and Montenegro. Compared to Denver's Nikoloz Tskitishvili, last season's No. 5 pick who wasn't ready.

23. Wayne Simien, 6-9, 255, sophomore, Kansas. Despite all his injuries, a general manager says: "He's a major talent. If he came out, you'd have to check him out, but if he was OK, he'd go in the first round."

24. Ronny Turiaf, 6-9, 228, sophomore, Gonzaga. Played in France with Tony Parker, regarded as comer in his own right.

25. Sofoklis Schortsianitis, 6-9, 253, Iraklis Salonica, Greece. He was "the Greek Baby Shaq," until scouts saw he wasn't 6-11. Now they want to know if he's 6-9.

26. David West, 6-9, 232, senior, Xavier. Sentimental favorite who stayed and was productive. Will play at the next level, just not as productively.

27. Ricky Paulding, 6-5, 212, junior, Missouri. Big, athletic guard who broke out last spring, had so-so season and went off again in this tournament.

28. Chris Thomas, 6-1, 180, sophomore, Notre Dame. Averaged 19 during the season, 22 in the first two games of tournament.

29. J.J. Redick, 6-4, 200, freshman, Duke. This is fast company for a spot-up shooter, but what a shooter! One scout compares him to '60s hoop icon Rick Mount.
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3/24/2003  9:45 AM
From Chicago Tribune (Sam Smith):

Best of a sparse draft lot

The first two rounds of the NCAA tournament are over: Do you know where your NBA scouts are? Most likely back home for a few days muttering things like, "I went to Spokane for that?"

This may be a great time for college basketball, but it's not a good time for NBA bird dogs. About the only thing they're sniffing out is bad prospects. The general consensus around the NBA is this may be one of the thinnest and weakest drafts in history, the colleges having been picked clean of underclassmen in recent years.

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The result is the No. 1 overall pick for the second consecutive year will not be from a U.S. college. It is almost certain to be Ohio high school sensation LeBron James. Some scouts say it's possible—though not likely—a team could go for Yugoslavian 7-footer Darko Milicic. He figures to go second, followed by Syracuse freshman Carmelo Anthony, if he decides to leave school.

After that, some scouts say, it's a plummet to mostly second-round-level talent. Though there's always a surprise, like high school player Amare Stoudemire last year, most NBA executives doubt there's any NBA-quality starters in the rest of the lottery and that some picked in the lottery might not have more talent than second-rounders from recent drafts.

The result could be a rush to draft international players who could remain overseas and not count against a team's salary cap and luxury tax. More teams than usual also will be looking to trade lottery picks.

So here's an early projection of the first round of the draft based on interviews with several NBA executives. The assumption here is that all players are available for the draft, even though several of these names are expected to remain in college or overseas.
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3/24/2003  9:46 AM
1. LeBron James, 6-7, 240, small forward, Ohio schoolboy. Could be an All-Star as a rookie. A great talent who will be perhaps the most publicized player to come into the NBA since Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

2. Darko Milicic, 7-0, 245, center/power forward, Yugoslavia. The 17-year-old, as a big man, isn't quite as ready as James. But he's tough, can shoot with range, can run the floor and can handle the ball—sort of a tough Toni Kukoc.

3. Carmelo Anthony, 6-8, 220, small forward, Syracuse. Has been compared with Tracy McGrady and Paul Pierce. A tough player who can score and a good post-up player. Not a super jumper but an excellent rebounder. Not the greatest shooter from long range. He could be a prototype pro small forward who can score in the NBA immediately.

4. Chris Bosh, 6-10, 215, power forward, Georgia Tech. The name Antonio McDyess comes to mind with some scouts, though Bosh is awfully thin. He has great shooting range for a big man. A freshman, like Anthony, he's athletic and has a clever inside game, but scouts wonder whether he's strong enough to do it in the NBA.

5. Emeka Okafor, 6-9, 245, power forward, Connecticut. A defensive big man, but not quite Alonzo Mourning. A rebounder and shot blocker who doesn't have much of an offensive game. But a tough guy with an NBA body who probably projects out as a Theo Ratliff type.

6. Anderson Varejao, 6-10, 235, power forward, Brazil. An agile, creative, scoring big man. Scouts like his long arms and ability to both rebound and run the floor like a small man.

7. Jarvis Hayes, 6-6, 220, shooting guard, Georgia. Big, strong guard likened at times to Mitch Richmond. Not quite the shooter, but more athletic. But there are questions about his ball-handling.

8. Dwyane Wade, 6-4, 210, shooting guard, Marquette. A little small at shooting guard, but scouts like his attitude and fearlessness. One likened him to Sidney Moncrief, someone who doesn't do anything great but does a little of everything well.

9. Mickael Pietrus, 6-6, 210, shooting guard, France. A Ray Allen-type shooting guard. Has good shooting range and is not afraid to go to the basket and defend. Quick development of Gordan Giricek, who wasn't rated as highly, has increased interest.

10. Nick Collison, 6-10, 250, power forward, Kansas. Described by some as a "plow horse." But in a good way. Determined big man. He's not a great athlete, but tough and a good shooter. Will be good off someone's bench playing a role.

11. T.J. Ford, 5-10, 165, point guard, Texas. Has a chance thanks to Earl Boykins. Ford isn't a great shooter and is small. But he's exceedingly quick, a good passer and tough, and with Boykins' impact in Golden State, there may be a move back to smaller guards.

12. Kirk Hinrich, 6-3, 180, point guard, Kansas. Smart point guard with deceptive quickness. A solid shooter and ball-handler who could grow into a John Stockton type.

13. Brian Cook, 6-10, 240, power forward, Illinois. Versatile big man who may be able to take advantage of zone rules and shoot from the outside in the pros. Senior has come a long way with mature game, but toughness a question.

14. Sofoklis Schortsianitis, 6-9, 255, power forward, Greece. Billed as Baby Shaq, but more a Baby Eddy Curry, which may not be too bad. Strong with an NBA body, but raw. The concern is he may be closer to 6-8.

15. Luke Ridnour, 6-2, 175, point guard, Oregon. Plays with a daring and swagger that reminds some of the style of Jason Kidd, if not the talent. Good passer and ball-handler.

16. David West, 6-8, 235, power forward, Xavier. A little undersized, but a versatile all-round big man who is an excellent midrange shooter.

17. Chris Kaman, 7-0, 255, center, Central Michigan. He's a 7-footer who can shoot, but there are questions about his toughness. Best observation of year from Kent State coach Jim Christian, who said if Kaman were from Slovenia, NBA scouts would be calling him a top-five pick.

18. Boris Diaw, 6-9, 215, small forward, France. An excellent athlete and good defensive player who has been slowed by injuries. Could be a Toni Kukoc-like matchup problem with ability to play shooting guard.

19. Josh Howard, 6-7, 205, small forward, Wake Forest. Multitalented player who has been the surprise of the Atlantic Coast Conference. A good competitor who can shoot and defend. Brings comparisons to Shane Battier with ability to do a little of everything.

20. Mo Williams, 6-1, 185 point guard, Alabama. Creative, mature point guard who's an exciting ball-handler. Not a great shooter or super athlete, but teams like his leadership potential.

21. Mario Austin, 6-8, 260, power forward, Mississippi. Good inside player, though scouts wonder about his size despite his long arms. So the name Elton Brand comes up.

22. Reece Gaines, 6-6, 205, shooting guard, Louisville. A good combo guard who may not be the ideal point guard but is big enough for shooting guard with decent range.

23. Zarko Cabarkapa, 6-11, 230, power forward, Yugoslavia. One of those European big guys a team will take a chance on hoping he'll stay in Europe and develop. Long arms with the ability to handle the ball in the open court.

24. Dee Brown, 6-0, 175, point guard, Illinois. Super-quick guard can shoot and run a team. Reminds of Allen Iverson because of his high school quarterback experience, but can't score like Iverson.

25. Rick Rickert, 6-10, 210, power forward, Minnesota. A good outside shooter with questions about his ability to stand up to NBA power forwards and hold post position.

26. Aleksandar Pavlovic, 6-7, 210, small forward, Yugoslavia. Athletic swingman who slashes to the basket. A good ball-handler with decent shooting range. Another player to hide overseas for a few years.

27. Mike Sweetney, 6-8, 260, power forward, Georgetown. A smallish power forward who draws the dreaded "tweener" label. But he's tough and relentless.

28. Josh Childress, 6-8, 205, small forward, Stanford. A good rebounder for his size. He can handle the ball well enough to be a point forward and has a good shot.

29. Kendrick Perkins, 6-10, 260, Texas schoolboy. Someone hopes they'll find another Amare Stoudemire. He's a powerful player who attacks the boards, supposedly a poor man's Moses Malone.
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3/24/2003  1:54 PM
this isn't looking good... i guess all we have to do is find one good pick.

I say we draft Perkins/ Greek Baby Shaq (if he's 6'9")/ Outlaw (depending on how he does at McD's) with our top 10 pick.

With our 2 second rounders, we pluck two international talents and let them sit.
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3/24/2003  4:26 PM
This is how the top 15 should go in terms of talent excluding high school players.

1. Lebron James
2 Darko Milicic
3. Emeka Okafor
4. TJ Ford
5. Carmelo Anthony
6. Chris Kaman
7. Chris Bosh
8. Mike Sweetney
9. David West
10.Reece Gaines
11.Ben Gordon
12 Nick Collison
13 Dwayne Wade
14 Jarvis Hayes
15 Kirk Hinrich
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3/24/2003  4:36 PM
i don't know why everyone is sweating Okafor. the guy is 6'8", PF, who blocks shots. He's not going to play center in the pros, he's built like a toothpick, sure he grabs rebounds, but he's not the next coming of NENE or Amare. Please. With the big deal everyone is making over Okafor, it's just clear that College basketball has NO big men anymore.
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3/25/2003  12:09 AM
Okafor is officially listed as 6-9 1/4 252 on the Uconn website. Okafor is a monster in the way Ben wallace dominates yet he has an offensive game. Its also listed on the site that he is the strongest player on the team with a bench pres in excess of 400 pounds. thats pretty good even for a big guy like that--i remember when oakley boasted he lifted 365
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3/25/2003  9:16 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Okafor is officially listed as 6-9 1/4 252 on the Uconn website. Okafor is a monster in the way Ben wallace dominates yet he has an offensive game. Its also listed on the site that he is the strongest player on the team with a bench pres in excess of 400 pounds. thats pretty good even for a big guy like that--i remember when oakley boasted he lifted 365
it's great that he can bench 400+, so can JR Bremer, the Celt's PG. i'm still wary of Okafor, he's still rail thin looking. and his offensive game isn't all that, he scores pretty much off of put backs. I'm not trying to knock Okafor, because he's a great athlete and academician, but I don't think he's going to enjoy the same success in the NBA. He's been compared to a theo ratliff, but the thing is, Ratliff is a big guy, I believe 6'11" and much wider than Okafor. The two inch difference might not sound like alot, but it really is in the NBA. It makes a difference between whether someone can successfully hold down the NBA Center spot, or just remain an undersized PF masquerading as a center (who still can be successful).
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3/25/2003  7:50 PM
Looking at Okefar - March Madness - looked thin then took a look at the arms and shoulders = looks strong there. Also - he is starting to really dominate inside. Had some offensive moves and not just off the putbacks.
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3/26/2003  1:53 PM
Caseloads... keep watching him. He's got really soft strong hands, a huge wingspan, and has that shot-blocking anticipation you don't teach... The Ben Wallace comparison is excellent. This guy will contribute on the defensive end right away while he fills out and develops the offensive game. He's a power foreward and doesn't project well to the true center role... true... but there are few better at weak side defense and shot-blocking outside the NBA. I'd take him in a second... he'd be an excellent first off the bench big man right away.
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Posted by BRIGGS:

This is how the top 15 should go in terms of talent excluding high school players.

1. Lebron James
2 Darko Milicic
3. Emeka Okafor
4. TJ Ford
5. Carmelo Anthony
6. Chris Kaman
7. Chris Bosh
8. Mike Sweetney
9. David West
10.Reece Gaines
11.Ben Gordon
12 Nick Collison
13 Dwayne Wade
14 Jarvis Hayes
15 Kirk Hinrich


After watching the McD game-I would shove Charlie Villenueva and James Lang on to the list. Charlie at a 6-10 showed true explosion and jaw-dropping athletic ability and agility from the SF position. Once he puts on 25 more pounds and devlops a solid J he could be a 20 point scorer and solid rebounder from the 3 in the nBA. That may take 2 or 3 years of development but you would probably be talking a 1-2 pick in the draft by then. I would compare him to Sean Marion. He could easily play some back up right away. It's a pick based on talent potential so it' someone you are planning on developing. With the way the Knicks dont play rookies and the fact that Sprewell's contract is up in 2 years-it wouldnt be a bad selction at all. James Lang-showed some real good skill. Quick hands and feet and ran the floor real well despite being somewhere in the 310-320 range. I think he has to prove to NBA personell that he will go down 20-30 pounds and stay there. Obviously he has fluctuated in weight quite aggresively which brings Oliver Miller to mind. You know once he signs that contract-he could explode to 350 and then you have a problem. If he could get his weight down to 275 and stay there-there is no doubt he could start center and be effective. These guys are obviously the risk/reward pick. If Skita was picked 5 in the talent layden draft last year-Villanueva nd lang will go top 15. I thought Outlaw was a bit skinny and could use some college. Villanueva appeared to be 25 pounds heavier than Outlaw and poccessed a bigger frame with a couple of inches.
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3/28/2003  9:15 PM
La Times dude is an idiot for comparing Carmelo to Glenn Robinson. Carmelo loves to play the game, has enthusiasm, rebounds, knows how to pass and is infinitely better at taking it to the rack than Big puppy.
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