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Identified foreign objects: Underaged arrive from overseas

March 18, 2003 Print it


There was a time when players from abroad would enter the NBA with a bit more hair on their chins than the fresh-faced youngsters who hit the scene after a year or two of college, if not sooner.

That is changing, as we'll witness in June, when the draft will feature two players, Darko Milicic and Sofoklis Schortsianitis, just days past their 18th birthdays.

"The way we scout and draft players in this country, we're beginning to do that overseas," Pistons VP of basketball operations John Hammond says. "Eventually, the ages get younger and younger."

Last year's draft had six first-round picks from overseas. This year: "There will be anywhere from eight to 11 players in Europe going in the first round," says agent Marc Cornstein, who represents a bumper crop of foreign youngsters, including Milicic. "And there could be more next year."

Two years ago, four of the first eight picks were used on high school big men. That has left the college game with a dearth of size, and that's where the best young Europeans will fill the gap.

To help you tell Darko from Zarko, we'll go through some basic introductions.

SPELL IT: Darko Milicic

Say it: DAR-ko MILL-ih-chik.

Basics: 7-0, 250 pounds, turns 18 on June 20, SF/PF/C. A Yugoslavian playing for Hemofarm in his home country.

Of note: Fifty credentials were given to NBA personnel types two weeks ago when Milicic's team faced a Greek powerhouse. He responded with 23 points, 19 rebounds and four blocks. He's thin and young but is the kind of European shooting guard in a center's body who is changing the game. The only question: What position will he play?

Draft speak: The consolation prize for the runner-up of the LeBron James lottery, with an outside chance to go No. 1 overall.

SPELL IT: Anderson Varejao

Say it: AN-der-son vah-RAY-ho

Basics: 6-9 pounds, 229, 20, PF. From Brazil, playing for FC Barcelona in Spain.

Of note: He's a big-time energy player, with the coolest hair in pro basketball outside of Ben Wallace. Rebounds like a madman and has a decent shot, good nose for the ball, smarts, strength and shot-blocking ability. He's still filling out his body.

Draft speak: A top 10 pick.

SPELL IT: Boris Diaw

Say it: BOR-iss DEE-ow

Basics: 6-8, 205, 20, SF. Plays for Pau Orthez in his home country of France.

Of note: Issa Diaw was a Senegalese high jump champ, and Elisabeth Riffiod was one of the best female basketball players in France -- their son Boris is, naturally, an incredible athlete. He's a good defender, can play the point and is unselfish almost to a fault -- think Richard Jefferson meets Scottie Pippen.

Draft speak: Will dazzle execs in workouts and land in the lottery.

SPELL IT: Mickael Pietrus

Say it: MY-kel PEET-russ

Basics: 6-5, 205 pounds, 21, SG. A Parisian who teams with Diaw for Pau Orthez.

Of note: Defense is his game, and he'd better improve offensively. He has athleticism and slashing ability, but his jumper needs work.

Draft speak: A late lottery or mid-first round pick.

SPELL IT: Sofoklis Schortsianitis

Say it: SOF-fik-klees skor-tih-NEE-tees

Basics: 6-9, 260 pounds, turns 18 on June 22, PF. Born in Greece, plays for Iraklis.

Of note: Former NBA player Tony Farmer dubbed him "Baby Shaq," though one scout says Schortsianitis is "more like a Gary Trent-type." But Schortsianitis has an incredible body and a variety of post moves. He will need a couple of years.

Draft speak: Could go between 15 and 20, if not higher.

SPELL IT: Zarko Cabarkapa

Say it: ZAR-ko cha-bar-KAH-pah

Basics: 7-0, 225 pounds, turns 22 in May, SF. Plays for Buducnost in his home country of Yugoslavia.

Of note: Big and versatile, in the Lamar Odom mold. Very skilled, a good passer. Should be among the most NBA-ready of the foreign draftees. A huge wingspan (nearly 7-2) helps him on defense.

Draft speak: Will go in the late teens or early 20s.

SPELL IT: Aleksandar Pavlovic

Say it: al-eck-SAN-dar PAHV-loh-vich

Basics: 6-7, 210 pounds, 19, SG. A Serbian who plays for Buducnost in Yugoslavia.

Of note: He's a great shooter, with form as smooth as Peja Stojakovic's. But he "plays like an American," one scout says. That means he can slash to the basket, score in the lane and, of course, dunk.

Draft speak: Will go in the late teens or early 20s.

SPELL IT: Slavko Vranes

Say it: SLAHV-ko VRAH-nish

Basics: 7-6, 300 pounds, 20, C. A reserve for -- you guessed it -- Buducnost in his home country.

Of note: He's very raw. A contractual issue forced him to sit out last year, impeding his development. He's huge, though, and his lack of development means he is a 7-6 blank slate for a patient team to mold.

Draft speak: A late first-round pick.

SPELL IT: Zoran Planinic

Say it: ZOR-an PLAH-nih-nik

Basics: 6-7, 195, 20, PG/SG. Playing for Cibona in his home country of Croatia.

Of note: Planinic opened eyes last year when, as a 19-year-old Croatian playing in a Serbian gym (against Partizan), he scored 28 points despite being hit by fans' batteries and coins. He's a solid all-around player with good size for a point guard.

Draft speak: Will go in the 20s.

SPELL IT: Carlos Delfino

Say it: CAR-lows del-FEE-noh

Basics: 6-7, 195 pounds, 20, SG. An Argentine playing for Fortitudo Bologna in Italy.

Of note: Emanuel Ginobili was another Argentine who played in Italy, but one scout points out, "In talent, Delfino is not Ginobili." Delfino's jumper is spotty, but he's a good defender, has explosiveness on offense and a good feel for the game.

Draft speak: On the fringe of the first round.
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3/19/2003  1:43 PM
Varejao and Diaw are interesting. Combine one of them with Josh Howard or David Harrison and we have some good prospects in the pipeline. Howard would contribute immediately.... especially if we trade Spree in the off-season.
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3/20/2003  9:25 AM
Hi guys,

I'm French and I just wanted to let you know that I think that Mickael Pietrus has a huge potential and could become a very good play in the NBA. He's no doubt the future leader of our national team...

Moreover, he's a brother: Florent Pietrus. He's older and may have less talent that Mickael, but they're doing some amazing things in Pau Orthez!
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3/20/2003  10:47 AM
Posted by rain:

Varejao and Diaw are interesting. Combine one of them with Josh Howard or David Harrison and we have some good prospects in the pipeline. Howard would contribute immediately.... especially if we trade Spree in the off-season.

I say don't make any major trades. let this team just run it's course. if it's "course" is the lotto for the next 4 years, then so be it. but in the meantime, we'll stock up on a few good picks, salaries will start coming off the cap, and by the time darko and lebron and whomever else is a free agent after the 06-07 season, we can sign them outright. that's what we need to do, be able to just sign guys outright. I'd rather that then just trying to make trades... no one is going to give us an all-star straight up for our junk (but they would for our lottery draft picks), and the Kiki of Denver knew that Dyess was 1) going to leave via free agency, 2) injured with a chance of reinjury. Basically - let's just let this ride and go from there.
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3/20/2003  1:06 PM
I kind of agree with Case - let the star go nova, and then you'll have a fresh slate...
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3/20/2003  1:40 PM
Some of those players will be around at 31 which makes the McDyess deal even better.
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3/20/2003  2:00 PM
Posted by falcindor:

Some of those players will be around at 31 which makes the McDyess deal even better.
totally. I say we draft foreigners this year in the first and second round. let them develop some more overseas, bring them over when they are ready.
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3/20/2003  6:45 PM
I can see the Knicks signing a foreign players in the 2nd round because its not likely we have 3 open roster spots, we will probably have 2.
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Posted by falcindor:

I can see the Knicks signing a foreign players in the 2nd round because its not likely we have 3 open roster spots, we will probably have 2.
i see them signing 2 foreign players, because we'll only have room for one player, who will be our 1st round lottery guy, and remember we have to clear room for milos.
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3/21/2003  5:53 AM
We we will probably trade our pick unless we can get a top 3 pick. Knicks really need a SF with height that can run the break.
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3/21/2003  7:21 AM
Posted by falcindor:

We we will probably trade our pick unless we can get a top 3 pick. Knicks really need a SF with height that can run the break.
if only nailon would play some D
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3/21/2003  7:31 AM
Nailonis a ball hog which doesnt help him.
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3/22/2003  5:33 PM
Posted by falcindor:

We we will probably trade our pick unless we can get a top 3 pick. Knicks really need a SF with height that can run the break.
Travis Outlaw?
go knicks!
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3/23/2003  12:51 AM
Outside of Milicic, i like the sound of both Varejao and Schortsianitis. We have a realistic shot at either or both as well. Both could help, though baby shaq might be better for our team. I think it all depends on how big he really is. I've seen him listed from 6-9, 250 to 6-11, 285. I think it all depends on when the profile was issued because he's probably grown some. If he turns out to be around 6-10 or more he would be very good for our team because he can probably play some good minutes at center. We could also look into drafting Slavko Vranes with one of our second round picks if we still have both. He's a good player to keep stored away for awhile.
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3/23/2003  8:09 AM
Whateve that kids name is hes no baby Shaq. He will never be a Shaq. The only reason hes being considered so high is because some dumb scout compared him to a young shaq. Hes a bust. Hes gonna be the Shaq as much as Harold Minor was baby Jordan. Well other scouts called him the next Gary Trent. Hes alot like "Tractor Trailer".
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3/23/2003  11:42 AM
Posted by falcindor:

Whateve that kids name is hes no baby Shaq. He will never be a Shaq. The only reason hes being considered so high is because some dumb scout compared him to a young shaq. Hes a bust. Hes gonna be the Shaq as much as Harold Minor was baby Jordan. Well other scouts called him the next Gary Trent. Hes alot like "Tractor Trailer".
Is there any foundation for that predication?!?
And please no "Nobody can be compared to Shaq because he's such a beast!"-reply. Im sure everybody is aware of that!!! Its only a comparison of playing-style!!!!
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3/23/2003  4:14 PM
Posted by falcindor:

Whateve that kids name is hes no baby Shaq. He will never be a Shaq. The only reason hes being considered so high is because some dumb scout compared him to a young shaq. Hes a bust. Hes gonna be the Shaq as much as Harold Minor was baby Jordan. Well other scouts called him the next Gary Trent. Hes alot like "Tractor Trailer".
Can someone please tell me what ever happened to harold miner? I've been wanting to find that out forever.
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