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djsunyc
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4/9/2007  10:03 AM
eddy's best months were january and february

36 mins, 22.1 pts, 63 fg% (12.6 fga), 6.6 rebs, 0.8 asts
37 mins, 20.3 pts, 64 fg% (11.8 fga), 7.5 rebs, 1.1 asts

the knicks were 13-13 during that stretch.

shooting percentages of our other players that month:

marbury: 47 fg% (his best month), 39 fg% (his worst month - and hasn't cracked 42% since)
jamal: 42 fg%, 41 fg% (pretty much on par for his career)
quentin: 42 fg%, 39 fg% (same with quentin)

so, is making curry the focal point of the offense making it easier for our perimeter players?

considering marbury, jamal, and quentin are our 3 main perimeter players, and veterans, why are their shooting percentages so low? is that a function of the offense they're in or is it b/c they're just not good shooters?

it looks like curry is the focal point of the team. if that's the case, then we seriously have to upgrade the perimeter positions b/c those shooting percentages are just poor.
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oohah
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4/9/2007  10:26 AM
Maybe if Curry adds a ten foot jumper, Frye can get some love in the post so he isn't playing like a shooting guard.

oohah

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4/9/2007  10:31 AM
precisely why our greatest weakness at this point is outside shooting- not at the 4 spot.

Crawford needs to go to the bench & we need a major upgrade to the 2 or 3 in terms of outside shooter.
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4/9/2007  10:47 AM
I would say 1-2-3-4-5
But realistically 2-3-4 as 1 (Marbs) and 5 (Eddy) will not go anywhere
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4/9/2007  11:21 AM
To me it's the 2 and 3 that need some help. If Isiah can upgrade those spots, I think we'll get enough out of the 1 with the guys we have. Steph, Mardy and Jamal are more than enough to make basic passes and penetrate. Draft a SF and sign a FA SG to round out the group.

We also have to acknowledge that this was Curry's 1st time being the FOCAL point of the offense and he still has a lot to learn. His passing 1st of all has to get better. I actually think he has gotten a tad better already. Rounding out his game by adding a short jumper and better shooting from the line would be the other things.

Isiah's got some tough decisions to make this year.

Curry and Lee are locks to stay
Balkman and Collins should be also
Steph isn't going anywhere, Q cuz of his back is staying.

So what does he do with the other guys? If he makes a trade like the one suggested for Lewis, then that clears up a few spots for him to refine the team. I know he'd be scared to do it, but it may be the BEST thing he did. Frye, Jamal and Nate are some of his favorite guys, but we can't get better unless we move someone and those guys are likely candidates.
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4/9/2007  11:35 AM
NIIXLUVA, this is what your boy Zeke says about Crawford...I am pretty sure he is NOT getting traded...Nate and Frye is another story.

"I wish we had a cardboard cutout of him that we could just place out on the floor because I know they would guard that,” Thomas said. “When you see him, it kind of reminds you of what you’re missing. You long for him.”
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4/9/2007  11:36 AM
Curry has done well for most of the year, but it has become clear over the past month that he needs help. Ever since Crawford and David Lee went down, Curry has suffered the most. Defenses have collapsed more on him because they have been less concerned about a perimeter threat -- despite Marbury's recent surge to prominence -- or about keeping David Lee off the boards.

That has liberated weakside defenders to come over and harass Curry, whose numbers have dropped since his teammates went down. Before Crawford was injured, Curry was averaging 19.7 points per game, but in the 20 games since then his averaged fell two points to a more modest 17.7 going into last night's game against the Bucks. Similarly, his shooting percentage also dropped from 59 percent to 57.8.

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4/9/2007  11:59 AM
That has liberated weakside defenders to come over and harass Curry, whose numbers have dropped since his teammates went down. Before Crawford was injured, Curry was averaging 19.7 points per game, but in the 20 games since then his averaged fell two points to a more modest 17.7 going into last night's game against the Bucks. Similarly, his shooting percentage also dropped from 59 percent to 57.8.

One basket and 1.2 percentage points seem to me to be a very modest decline, whether or not you want to attribute that to absence of Crawford.

Personally I think Curry was just guarded better.

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arkrud
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4/9/2007  12:09 PM
Posted by oohah:
That has liberated weakside defenders to come over and harass Curry, whose numbers have dropped since his teammates went down. Before Crawford was injured, Curry was averaging 19.7 points per game, but in the 20 games since then his averaged fell two points to a more modest 17.7 going into last night's game against the Bucks. Similarly, his shooting percentage also dropped from 59 percent to 57.8.

One basket and 1.2 percentage points seem to me to be a very modest decline, whether or not you want to attribute that to absence of Crawford.

Personally I think Curry was just guarded better.

oohah

Do you mean he was guarded better by... Bucks, Sixers, etc?
Comon man lets talk about it after Detroit game. They have somebody to guard big man.
If Eddy will be good regardless I will change my opinion a lot, othervise...
In general with overal NBA tendences to put defense in the past like boring stuff Eddy can be pretty good asset.
As sad as it is... it's life.






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nixluva
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4/9/2007  12:10 PM
I believe that Curry will do quite well even if we trade Jamal. He's not the only guy that can get him the ball. We just need to add another solid passer. Mardy has developed a bit of chemistry with Curry already. The funny thing is that Malik is the best passer to Curry after Mardy.
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4/9/2007  12:41 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I believe that Curry will do quite well even if we trade Jamal. He's not the only guy that can get him the ball. We just need to add another solid passer. Mardy has developed a bit of chemistry with Curry already. The funny thing is that Malik is the best passer to Curry after Mardy.

I think Curry took a shot at Marbs too. He said that Rose is use to passing it to a big guy like Tim Duncan. He says he is no Tim Duncan though he is a big. Subtle but spoke volumes IMO.
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4/9/2007  1:19 PM
We need a new starting 1, 2, 3, and 5. In other words, we need a new TEAM.
oohah
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4/9/2007  1:21 PM
Do you mean he was guarded better by... Bucks, Sixers, etc?

What I mean is 1.2 points and one basket is a very small statistical difference, so we shouldn't even be talking about what it is "due to".
Comon man lets talk about it after Detroit game. They have somebody to guard big man.

He's already done it to Ben Wallace, Dwight Howard, Shaq and Alonzo and a host of other big men, so I don't think these last few games should form your opinion, just look at the entire season. The only guy who really shut down Curry was Ming.
If Eddy will be good regardless I will change my opinion a lot, othervise...
In general with overal NBA tendences to put defense in the past like boring stuff Eddy can be pretty good asset.
As sad as it is... it's life.

Curry is a good player. He has a lot to improve on but he is already pretty good.

oohah

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4/9/2007  2:29 PM
it would be cool if we had our starting 1-2-3 off of the injured list, but them's the breaks

Balkman and Collins getting these minutes will be a blessing in 07-08. A healthy Q with these guys will be a lethal combination. Not really so far off from what Toronto and Chicago put on the floor.
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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