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arkrud
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4/7/2007  9:36 AM
The main impression I get from last night:
This team is MUCH better WITHOUT Stephan and Eddy!!!
Even depleated like now and even without players we can get from trading them.
Clear the space Isiah!!! People will call you a genious.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Bonn1997
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4/7/2007  11:12 AM
The team is much better without Eddy on both ends of the court. We've seen that all season and all of his career actually. As for Marbury, right now I think the team needs him. But if we're rebuilding we're better off with a younger guard.
McK1
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4/7/2007  11:45 AM
neither are going anywhere.

need to draft a guard like Roy for the team to play off

this Almond kid may be answer or maybe Marcus Williams if he slips



the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
SupremeCommander
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4/7/2007  11:52 AM
This si definitely not just one game... it's season after season of failure finally creeping past the smoke and mirrors. This team is garbage, this organization is garbage and my father and I are considering relinquishing the season tickets we've had since 1991. Hard to justify the expense anymore, even though I LOVE basketball and the Knicks. Having said that, I do despise Isiah and would love to plant kiddy porn on his computer and I'd strangle Dolan if given the opportunity. I hope Stephon Marbury's giant head explodes as does Eddy Curry's fragile heart.

Basically, I want a fresh start in the worst way. I wish this was NBA Live 2002 and I could undo the past four or five insanely crappy, worthless seasons.
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
nixluva
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4/7/2007  12:08 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

This si definitely not just one game... it's season after season of failure finally creeping past the smoke and mirrors. This team is garbage, this organization is garbage and my father and I are considering relinquishing the season tickets we've had since 1991. Hard to justify the expense anymore, even though I LOVE basketball and the Knicks. Having said that, I do despise Isiah and would love to plant kiddy porn on his computer and I'd strangle Dolan if given the opportunity. I hope Stephon Marbury's giant head explodes as does Eddy Curry's fragile heart.

Basically, I want a fresh start in the worst way. I wish this was NBA Live 2002 and I could undo the past four or five insanely crappy, worthless seasons.

I know it can be frustrating, but to be honest, this team wasn't gonna be great this year even if everything went perfectly. I don't understand then why it's so hard on fans when they can clearly see that just about everything went wrong in terms of games lost due to suspensions and injuries.

I actually think we still learned a lot about the talent on this team. If we got blown out every night then i'd be depressed. We can play with anyone, including the top teams, but it's the "little things" as Isiah put it, that have killed this team. I'm hopeful that some of these young players will learn and improve. How about how well Balkman and Collins have been this year. How about how well Lee played until he got hurt. Despite Curry's fault's he took a big step in the right direction this year. Let's hope they all go into the summer with even more hunger to improve. I was happy about the pick up of R. Morris as well.

I hate all this losing, but at least I can see that we have some players that will be able to help as we go along. This isn't some old team that has zero upside. This is a MOSTLY young team with guys that will likely get better. I'm anxious to see what Isiah does this summer as well.

TrueBlue
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4/7/2007  12:20 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

This si definitely not just one game... it's season after season of failure finally creeping past the smoke and mirrors. This team is garbage, this organization is garbage and my father and I are considering relinquishing the season tickets we've had since 1991. Hard to justify the expense anymore, even though I LOVE basketball and the Knicks. Having said that, I do despise Isiah and would love to plant kiddy porn on his computer and I'd strangle Dolan if given the opportunity. I hope Stephon Marbury's giant head explodes as does Eddy Curry's fragile heart.

Basically, I want a fresh start in the worst way. I wish this was NBA Live 2002 and I could undo the past four or five insanely crappy, worthless seasons.

I know it can be frustrating, but to be honest, this team wasn't gonna be great this year even if everything went perfectly. I don't understand then why it's so hard on fans when they can clearly see that just about everything went wrong in terms of games lost due to suspensions and injuries.

I actually think we still learned a lot about the talent on this team. If we got blown out every night then i'd be depressed. We can play with anyone, including the top teams, but it's the "little things" as Isiah put it, that have killed this team. I'm hopeful that some of these young players will learn and improve. How about how well Balkman and Collins have been this year. How about how well Lee played until he got hurt. Despite Curry's fault's he took a big step in the right direction this year. Let's hope they all go into the summer with even more hunger to improve. I was happy about the pick up of R. Morris as well.

I hate all this losing, but at least I can see that we have some players that will be able to help as we go along. This isn't some old team that has zero upside. This is a MOSTLY young team with guys that will likely get better. I'm anxious to see what Isiah does this summer as well.



OMG you said this team was gonna win 45,46 games if everything went well. The Suspensions was self inflicted no one to blame but themselves and the coach.
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
SupremeCommander
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4/7/2007  12:22 PM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

This si definitely not just one game... it's season after season of failure finally creeping past the smoke and mirrors. This team is garbage, this organization is garbage and my father and I are considering relinquishing the season tickets we've had since 1991. Hard to justify the expense anymore, even though I LOVE basketball and the Knicks. Having said that, I do despise Isiah and would love to plant kiddy porn on his computer and I'd strangle Dolan if given the opportunity. I hope Stephon Marbury's giant head explodes as does Eddy Curry's fragile heart.

Basically, I want a fresh start in the worst way. I wish this was NBA Live 2002 and I could undo the past four or five insanely crappy, worthless seasons.

I know it can be frustrating, but to be honest, this team wasn't gonna be great this year even if everything went perfectly. I don't understand then why it's so hard on fans when they can clearly see that just about everything went wrong in terms of games lost due to suspensions and injuries.

I actually think we still learned a lot about the talent on this team. If we got blown out every night then i'd be depressed. We can play with anyone, including the top teams, but it's the "little things" as Isiah put it, that have killed this team. I'm hopeful that some of these young players will learn and improve. How about how well Balkman and Collins have been this year. How about how well Lee played until he got hurt. Despite Curry's fault's he took a big step in the right direction this year. Let's hope they all go into the summer with even more hunger to improve. I was happy about the pick up of R. Morris as well.

I hate all this losing, but at least I can see that we have some players that will be able to help as we go along. This isn't some old team that has zero upside. This is a MOSTLY young team with guys that will likely get better. I'm anxious to see what Isiah does this summer as well.

I appreciate the optimism, for I have none. Sure Balkman and Collins developed, but it's not like they look like they'll be superstars. Lee was really the only player I got excited about this season, but even then he may be a flash in the pan... the good typical "good stats, bad team" guy. He doesn't play a lick of defense or have a jumper... hell, the entire team is lacking a jumper.

Then, when you look at how poorly this team has performed when they have the luxury of playing the crap in the Atlantic Division, it really makes me sick. It's not like the Knicks are fighting for the division crown against the Spurs or Suns or Mavericks or even Detroit or Chicago. They play a bunch of crap for the division and have some piss poor record I don't want to look up right now, because then I'll really lose it.

I'll start feeling optimistic when the whole thing gets blown up.
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
nyk4ever
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4/7/2007  12:28 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:

I appreciate the optimism, for I have none. Sure Balkman and Collins developed, but it's not like they look like they'll be superstars. Lee was really the only player I got excited about this season, but even then he may be a flash in the pan... the good typical "good stats, bad team" guy. He doesn't play a lick of defense or have a jumper... hell, the entire team is lacking a jumper.

Then, when you look at how poorly this team has performed when they have the luxury of playing the crap in the Atlantic Division, it really makes me sick. It's not like the Knicks are fighting for the division crown against the Spurs or Suns or Mavericks or even Detroit or Chicago. They play a bunch of crap for the division and have some piss poor record I don't want to look up right now, because then I'll really lose it.

I'll start feeling optimistic when the whole thing gets blown up.

Great post Commander, I agree on all aspects.
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
arkrud
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4/7/2007  12:34 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

This si definitely not just one game... it's season after season of failure finally creeping past the smoke and mirrors. This team is garbage, this organization is garbage and my father and I are considering relinquishing the season tickets we've had since 1991. Hard to justify the expense anymore, even though I LOVE basketball and the Knicks. Having said that, I do despise Isiah and would love to plant kiddy porn on his computer and I'd strangle Dolan if given the opportunity. I hope Stephon Marbury's giant head explodes as does Eddy Curry's fragile heart.

Basically, I want a fresh start in the worst way. I wish this was NBA Live 2002 and I could undo the past four or five insanely crappy, worthless seasons.

I know it can be frustrating, but to be honest, this team wasn't gonna be great this year even if everything went perfectly. I don't understand then why it's so hard on fans when they can clearly see that just about everything went wrong in terms of games lost due to suspensions and injuries.

I actually think we still learned a lot about the talent on this team. If we got blown out every night then i'd be depressed. We can play with anyone, including the top teams, but it's the "little things" as Isiah put it, that have killed this team. I'm hopeful that some of these young players will learn and improve. How about how well Balkman and Collins have been this year. How about how well Lee played until he got hurt. Despite Curry's fault's he took a big step in the right direction this year. Let's hope they all go into the summer with even more hunger to improve. I was happy about the pick up of R. Morris as well.

I hate all this losing, but at least I can see that we have some players that will be able to help as we go along. This isn't some old team that has zero upside. This is a MOSTLY young team with guys that will likely get better. I'm anxious to see what Isiah does this summer as well.

I appreciate the optimism, for I have none. Sure Balkman and Collins developed, but it's not like they look like they'll be superstars. Lee was really the only player I got excited about this season, but even then he may be a flash in the pan... the good typical "good stats, bad team" guy. He doesn't play a lick of defense or have a jumper... hell, the entire team is lacking a jumper.

Then, when you look at how poorly this team has performed when they have the luxury of playing the crap in the Atlantic Division, it really makes me sick. It's not like the Knicks are fighting for the division crown against the Spurs or Suns or Mavericks or even Detroit or Chicago. They play a bunch of crap for the division and have some piss poor record I don't want to look up right now, because then I'll really lose it.

I'll start feeling optimistic when the whole thing gets blown up.

Pure truth man.
In this country bankroupsy is always an optin
And failure to keep fan base is real sign of the bankroupsy for sport organization.
If Mr. Dolan want to continue with this business he needs to admit failure, bring new leadersheep, and use 2 years to bring the roster to the point when we can start from scratch
NY is a big market and it will be no problem to bring talant and dedicated people.
They a waiting on the sidelines of the Garden ready to roll. And everybody know this.
The Rabgers 2 years turnaround shows how fast the rebuilding can go in NY
I have no doubt that you will be the first to get you season tickets back as soon as we will see the light.












[Edited by - arkrud on 04-07-2007 12:34 PM]
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
Bonn1997
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4/7/2007  12:37 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

I appreciate the optimism, for I have none. Sure Balkman and Collins developed, but it's not like they look like they'll be superstars. Lee was really the only player I got excited about this season, but even then he may be a flash in the pan... the good typical "good stats, bad team" guy. He doesn't play a lick of defense or have a jumper... hell, the entire team is lacking a jumper.

Then, when you look at how poorly this team has performed when they have the luxury of playing the crap in the Atlantic Division, it really makes me sick. It's not like the Knicks are fighting for the division crown against the Spurs or Suns or Mavericks or even Detroit or Chicago. They play a bunch of crap for the division and have some piss poor record I don't want to look up right now, because then I'll really lose it.

I'll start feeling optimistic when the whole thing gets blown up.

Great post Commander, I agree on all aspects.
Yeah, that was a fantastic post!
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4/7/2007  8:10 PM
Hmm, yeah we can play with the best of them yet lose to the worst. yeah, our team has a player who could be the league MVP if he puts his mind to it and gets some ppl around him that can help him. Yeah its the little things that kill us (besides Jeffries, his whole presence sucks) No we should not work things out and look to take over the weak ass Atlantic, we should just fold, trade Eddie away and become the 76ers.
Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
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4/7/2007  8:28 PM
Are you guys kidding me, or maybe your just over looking little things like ft shooting, turnovers, and no passion in the first half of games.

The injuries and no jumpshooters were not why we are loosing, thats small compared to giving up 20 points a night off of TOs
And missing 10 to 13 FTs a night and loosing by less then 5 points in almost all of out last 10 losses.

This is simply a young team who essentially has to play mistake free basketball becuase of injuries.
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