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nixluva
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4/6/2007  10:40 PM
Nice RealGM article

http://knicks.realgm.com/articles/3/20070404/learning_on_the_fly/

Learning On The Fly
Authored by Moritz Wollert - 4th April, 2007 - 8:44 pm

It was just a few weeks ago when Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins looked to ready to give everyone a summary of their rookie season. Weeks before the end of their first NBA year with the New York Knicks everything looked clear for them. After getting a few minutes here and there, Balkman considerably more than Collins, the two first year players weren't part of the regular Knicks rotation. With the team being in the middle of a tight Eastern Conference playoff race, it seemed that this wouldn't change until the end of the season. But then injuries and fate forced Knicks coach Isiah Thomas to look a little further on his bench and the two rookies answered the call.

Renaldo Balkman has left a good impression in his first year as a pro. Even when his minutes have been inconsistent, he has always found ways to provide a spark off the bench and help his team in one way or the other. Regarded as a defensive specialist by many, he also opened eyes with his outstanding play in the open court, which has earned him quite a few mentions in NBA highlight videos this season. His weaknesses in the halfcourt though, which are highlighted by his suspect outside shot and shaky handle, didn't fit in well with the Knicks original gameplan - pounding the ball inside to emerging center Eddy Curry and developing their attack from there.

Same can be said for Collins, as he has also struggled with his outside shot for most of his rookie campaign. He even saw much less minutes than Balkman since the New York backcourt was crowded by well known names as Stephon Marbury, Steve Francis or Jamal Crawford. Temple alumni Collins did his best though to impress coaches, teammates and fans and he relied on something which was a constant emphasis during his college career under former Owls coach John Chaney: Tough, physical and hard nosed defense. Standing 6-6 tall, Collins bothered opponents with his long arms and his ability to defend three positions. But his outstanding work on the defensive end didn't earn him minutes until the Knicks lost up to a handful of players to injuries.

The long list of late season injuries for the Knickerbockers includes backcourt performers Jamal Crawford (ankle stress fracture), Quentin Richardson (chronic back problems) and Steve Francis (knee and foot problems). All of a sudden the Knicks once crowded backcourt was down to team leader Stephon Marbury and second-year player Nate Robinson. Isiah Thomas was forced to use his rookies more from that point on.

The Knicks' record has gone down since they were hit by the injuries (4-9 since both Richardson and Crawford have been out together) but the play of the two rookies certainly hasn't been a reason for that. In fact, both Collins and Balkman have responding superbly to their increased minutes and they are showing everyone why Isiah Thomas made them first round picks in last year's NBA Draft.

Balkman cracked the regular rotation after Quentin Richardson re-injured his back in Atlanta. The former South Carolina Gamecock responded with 8.0 points per game (63 .7 FG%), 6.2 rebounds per game and 1.23 steals per game in 23.85 minutes per contest. It was quite a jump for Balkman who barely averaged 14 minutes before March.

Mardy Collins became part of the Knicks regular team after Steve Francis went down with an ankle injury. In his last five games, Collins is averaging 28.4 minutes per game, 7.0 points per game, 3.6 rebounds per game, 3.0 assists per game and 1.4 steals per game. Not that impressive of numbers, some people might think but considering this is the first extended action both players are getting in the NBA, their improvement is remarkable.

But numbers aren't even telling the whole story about the latest development of both players. It's not their stats or even their points that stand out, it's their all around game and their defense. On a team that has struggled for years now to become a capable defensive squad, both Collins and Balkman stand out with their overall awareness on defense, their nose for the ball and for their outstanding positioning defensively. Terms like these seemed like rocket science for some of their teammates in recent years, yet for Balkman and Collins who both gained a lot of experience throughout their college careers it seems like business as usual on the court.

Even though Balkman has become a highlight reel of his own lately, it's the simple and little plays that truly tell the story about him and his fellow rookie. Both won't have trouble to double at the right time, both know when to close in on their opponent, both are long and athletic enough to defend multiple positions. On offense they also manage to help their team lately despite their obvious shortcomings. Both can feed the post with ease, both can move without the ball and both are disciplined.

All these things will be vital for a team like the Knicks, that has become an example for undisciplined, fancy and complicated basketball in the last couple of years. Not only did the Knicks struggle to really develop an idendity on defense, they also constantly hurt themselves with numerous mistakes and blunders on the offensive end. The easiest and most simple plays often became an adventure for the Knicks players who at times looked more like a streetball all star squad than like a real NBA team. Both Collins and Balkman though are true basketball players. They can play on both ends of the court and will give the Knicks just the two way players they will need in the future to really make the next step and develop as a team. Collins and Balkman have years to improve their offense and all they need is a solid outside jumper to take the next step in their growth as players.

As each is 22 years old, they will have the time to work on their games and considering their work ethic and overall personality, Knicks fans can be positive about them knowing what to do.

Both have a lot to learn, there is no question about that. But in a league where fundamentally sound play and well coached defensive players have become a rare commodity, Isiah Thomas might have found two real diamonds in the rough in both players. The injuries might be a blessing in disguise for the troubled New York franchise and it's critisized coach and GM. One thing is for sure, washed up and disgruntled vets like Steve Francis won't help to turn around the team. These two kids though can be an important step in the right direction...


[Edited by - nixluva on 04-06-2007 3:40 PM]
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kam77
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4/6/2007  10:58 PM
Great article. The critics of Isiah will bleat and moan about Marcus Williams while complaining at the same time how all our guards are seives on the perimeter.

Well we drafted two perimeter defensive players bozos!

I will say this: I really wish we had kept Penny/Ariza, let Penny expire, resigned Trevor and never signed Jefferies.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/6/2007  10:59 PM
Mardy is growing on me.
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4/6/2007  11:06 PM
mardy is a taller charlie ward
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4/6/2007  11:10 PM
Posted by Caseloads:

mardy is a taller charlie ward

That's what I said in another thread about 30min ago. Well should we Stephonize him?
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4/6/2007  11:15 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Caseloads:

mardy is a taller charlie ward

That's what I said in another thread about 30min ago. Well should we Stephonize him?


You mean declare "the Knicks will never win a championship with Mardy Collins at PG"?
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4/6/2007  11:26 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by Caseloads:

mardy is a taller charlie ward

That's what I said in another thread about 30min ago. Well should we Stephonize him?




You mean declare "the Knicks will never win a championship with Mardy Collins at PG"?



BA DA BINGO!

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 04-06-2007 10:26 PM]
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4/6/2007  11:32 PM
I've seen writers say this pretty regularly - they say Balkman has a shaky handle. Opinions of that seem to vary. I think he's excellent dribbling on the open floor w/ the agility of a guard.

Draft Express merely compared him to Trevor Ariza, though they said Ariza had a better handle...
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewprofile.php?p=588

Sports Illustrated had a different opinion:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/chris_ekstrand/06/09/orlando/

"Have you seen Balkman? Now he's gotten a long defensive rebound and is dribbling with the dexterity of a point guard, expertly choosing the right wing player for a pass that leads to another basket."

It's odd. Balkman's awesome. Next season, he'll cause all sorts of mayhem when he and Lee are on the floor together.

Collins is a steady (if a little boring) big PG. His athleticism and shooting don't suggest that he'll be a superstar, but his defense and steady play could be staples when paired with a scoring guard. He's a good match playing with the many dynamic little PGs we have on our Knicks roster - he'd be the ideal match if he could evolve into a 35%+ shooter from 3pt range. At 6'5"+, he's bigger than most PGs and is the prototypical size for a SG.
If he could evolve into a McKie type, he'll be solid NBA player for a long time.

Long term, both could be solid rotation players (even starters) on playoff teams in the future.
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4/6/2007  11:39 PM
Collins has a long way to go before he is even half as good as Mckie and that aint saying much. Collins' jumper (can I even say that) is pathetic. He threw up about 4 airballs tonight. His shooting mechanics need major fine-tunning.

He is a bit steady and usually doesn't force things which is good. But he really doesn't make anyone better by penetrating and disihing or getting players easy shots. He seems content on just getting the offensive set started. Maybe if he had better Offensive players around him he'd look a little better.
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4/7/2007  1:28 AM
Collins needs more game time. The jumper honestly looks like he's just short arming it. Otherwise they're on target to go in. Nerves i guess.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/7/2007  1:28 AM
Mardy is a "sturdy" PG. Granted I wanted Marcus Williams instead of him, I wasn't entirely pissed when Mardy was selected, I just wanted Marcus instead. Marcus is a nice player and if he's playing with the right team he can be very effective, I love what he's done with the team this year.
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4/7/2007  1:30 AM
I love what he's done with the team this year.



Who is "the team". Your manner of speech makes it sound like you're a fan of this "team".
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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4/7/2007  1:37 AM
Collins is not a "shooter", but he certainly can score. I think Collins will become a better shooter with practice.

I like him better than Marcus Williams as a player. In fact, I think he's a better all-around player. Williams won't dish out 10 assists or score 25 points every night, but I can guarantee you that Collins will play D every night.

Oh, and Balkman is better than Marcus Williams. No question. This guy gets a J and he really is Marion Jr. I'm so glad that Isiah did not let Phoenix grab him!

The Nets would have been a better team with Balkman or Collins on their roster. Williams got the Nets backup PG role handed to him. They would have won more games handing that role to Collins.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 07-04-2007 01:41 AM]
Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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4/7/2007  1:41 AM
Posted by kam77:
I love what he's done with the team this year.



Who is "the team". Your manner of speech makes it sound like you're a fan of this "team".

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4/7/2007  1:57 AM
Collins is Frank Williams.

Balkman is a nice energy role player for 15 minutes a night.

Marcus Williams will be a starting PG in the NBA. Just for fun, his per 48 min numbers are much better than Deron Williams were in his rookie year. Not to say that MW will be as good as Deron but certainly the potential is there for him to be a solid NBA starting PG. Oh and MW will become a better scorer with practice.

Only a moron would believe Isiah's lie that the Suns were going to take Balkman. And only a complete moron would take a role player over a starting PG when they have a HUGE need for one. Besides, the argument is Williams over Collins because Balkman would have been there later for them.
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oohah





[Edited by - oohah on 07-04-2007 04:58 AM]
Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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4/8/2007  12:29 AM
Props to Isiah for finding Collins and Balkman. Screw Marcus Williams.

oohah

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4/8/2007  12:38 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Collins is Frank Williams.

Balkman is a nice energy role player for 15 minutes a night.

Marcus Williams will be a starting PG in the NBA. Just for fun, his per 48 min numbers are much better than Deron Williams were in his rookie year. Not to say that MW will be as good as Deron but certainly the potential is there for him to be a solid NBA starting PG. Oh and MW will become a better scorer with practice.

Only a moron would believe Isiah's lie that the Suns were going to take Balkman. And only a complete moron would take a role player over a starting PG when they have a HUGE need for one. Besides, the argument is Williams over Collins because Balkman would have been there later for them.

I don't know what games you have been watching but Balkman is just not an enery guy for 15 minutes a night. That's like watch Lee last year and thinking he is an energy guy. He is still a rookie and with an added jumpshot can be deadly.

Same with Collins. I like the guy and think with a little experience and maturity (and a jumpshot) can be a solid starter. The guy can defend and his size gives smaller defenders TONS of problems. He is sneaky quick for his 6'6" frame. Mardy can separate himself from Frank Williams this summer by showing that he is willing to put time into his game.
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4/8/2007  12:49 AM
Collins has a shot to be really good if he can consistently knock down jump shot.
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4/8/2007  12:55 AM
Can Isiah keep enough of these guys when he brings in KG?
Props for Balkman and Collins

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