OH COME ON TrueBlue!!! You're way out of line with this one. What else does the guy have to do before you'll give him any credit? This just seals it with me, NOTHING YOU SAY about him from now on has any merit, cuz it's clear you just don't like the guy and can't be objective.

Posted by buddapaw:

You are an idiot if that's all you got from the game.

I liked what I saw from a few individual players, including Marbury but it doesn't excuse how dumb he was the last 1:00min of the game. You can't praise unconditionally when the team committed 1billion turnovers. You'll never win playing that way and how a team commits that many turnovers against the Mavs is mind boggling.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-30-2007 10:26 PM]

Listen this guy has done this his whole career. He's capable of putting the ball in the bucket with the best of them but at the same time he racks up L's with the worst of them. If he manages the team better, with caution, the last 1:00min the team more than likely wins. His game separate from instincts, is less than desirable.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-30-2007 10:33 PM]

This thread is yet another example of your anal personality.

Posted by Michael6835:

Unfare to blame the loss on Steph. With Dallas doubling him, he still managed to get a good shot off. Howard just made a good block.

So what do you think happens if he takes car of the ball? his shot wasn't a good shot because he went up against 3 defenders.

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TrueBlue:

He might be the best stat loser IN NBA HISTORY.

He played a studly offensive game but made 3 complete bone headed plays at the end. He's an instinct type of player and hasn't realized yet in his 11yr career that often times you have to think and use your head out on the court.

I was originally a big proponent of the Marbury trade, but when I realized this trait of his in that Nets playoffs series in '04, followed by him having no clue in the Olympics, it was the beginning of the end for me and him.

Marbury is a momentum player. It can be to his advantage when he's offensively possessed, but when he's tired, or when you need him to keep his head up and see the floor, it can be a big problem. He's not been "steady" in crunch time as a Knick.

In the beginning I understood why he was traded for but still had my druthers about his game. He's proven me right since day 1. You can't play 48min off your instincts alone. BB IQ has to be more of the dominant quality. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, he's like a 3 or 4 at best.

He gathered some more groupies tonight though, gotta give him his props there.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-30-2007 10:49 PM]

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TrueBlue:

He might be the best stat loser IN NBA HISTORY.

He played a studly offensive game but made 3 complete bone headed plays at the end. He's an instinct type of player and hasn't realized yet in his 11yr career that often times you have to think and use your head out on the court.

I was originally a big proponent of the Marbury trade, but when I realized this trait of his in that Nets playoffs series in '04, followed by him having no clue in the Olympics, it was the beginning of the end for me and him.

Marbury is a momentum player. It can be to his advantage when he's offensively possessed, but when he's tired, or when you need him to keep his head up and see the floor, it can be a big problem. He's not been "steady" in crunch time as a Knick.

OH now here you come to add your .02. This is why you should shut and not speak again on this subject. Steph had his shot blocked to end 2 games and missed a FT in another game. That's not a matter of being unsteady. Sometimes the other team makes a good play and sometimes you just miss the shot. It happens.

I think your analysis of Steph is based on the same tired old myths about his game. He did what he did tonight to give us a chance. If he doesn't do what he did we get killed. If not for Dallas having WAY more talent and experience than us, we would've wont his game. Can you at least be honest and admit that this is an almost impossible game to win and we almost pulled it off? Dallas is 30 wins better and we're not even fully healthy, so how can you use this game to try and bash Steph? GO BACK to bed already cuz you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by TrueBlue:

He might be the best stat loser IN NBA HISTORY.

He played a studly offensive game but made 3 complete bone headed plays at the end. He's an instinct type of player and hasn't realized yet in his 11yr career that often times you have to think and use your head out on the court.

I was originally a big proponent of the Marbury trade, but when I realized this trait of his in that Nets playoffs series in '04, followed by him having no clue in the Olympics, it was the beginning of the end for me and him.

Marbury is a momentum player. It can be to his advantage when he's offensively possessed, but when he's tired, or when you need him to keep his head up and see the floor, it can be a big problem. He's not been "steady" in crunch time as a Knick.

OH now here you come to add your .02. This is why you should shut and not speak again on this subject. Steph had his shot blocked to end 2 games and missed a FT in another game. That's not a matter of being unsteady. Sometimes the other team makes a good play and sometimes you just miss the shot. It happens.

I think your analysis of Steph is based on the same tired old myths about his game. He did what he did tonight to give us a chance. If he doesn't do what he did we get killed. If not for Dallas having WAY more talent and experience than us, we would've wont his game. Can you at least be honest and admit that this is an almost impossible game to win and we almost pulled it off? Dallas is 30 wins better and we're not even fully healthy, so how can you use this game to try and bash Steph? GO BACK to bed already cuz you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

You gotta at some point start looking at the W-L column when it comes to him. If you choose not to then you have to start looking at the roster that surrounds him. If you feel the roster is flawed for his game then you have to start looking at the GM who assembled the roster.

Posted by Michael6835:

same old story over and over again. IT signed a multi year ext and as long as he is hear, steph is here. So you might want to change teams for the next 3-4 years as all you guys will want to see happen is failure. This team next season wins 42-45 games and makes the playoffs. I think Steph has managed to find the balance in his game and with this team. I think he is playing the best basketball of his career and I think he still has a lot to give to NY. I think it is a maturity thing paired together with him finally jelling with his team, coach, and himself. If Billups can make a turnaround and become a good guard, why can't Steph ? Steph just turned 30, he has about 5 more seasons in him before he has to call it quits. With him curry, lee, craw and the crew, we just need to get solid shooter.

The future is anybody's guess. We were talking about the past and present.