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We need to make a run at Rashard Lewis in the off-season....
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TLover
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3/21/2007  11:18 AM
With Curry getting doubled and tripled teamed every night a guy like Lewis would be perfect. He has more range than Frye. I'd propose a trade of Frye, Nate, Q-Rich or M. Rose for Lewis.

Knicks 7 main players for next season:

Pg: Marbury
Sg: Crawford
Sf: Lewis, Balkman
Pf: Jefferies, Lee
C: Curry
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MS
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3/21/2007  11:23 AM
I think you need to do crawford and frye, nate etc to get it done if it looks like they might lose him, I think we could win the east if that trade goes through.

Eddy needs to drop 20, Lee and Balkman need to be good from 10 feet, Collins needs to work on his outside game, and maybe we take a look at pietrus for the midlevel.

Marbury/Collins
Pietrus/Q
Lewis/Balkman
Lee
Curry
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3/21/2007  11:24 AM
that's not going to get u Lewis by a longshot... i'd have to include Curry or D Lee to have any shot of getting him IMO... he's a 27 yr old player on the rise averaging 22 & 7 as a secondary scoring option on his team... no way will SEA trade him for players that don't have star potential at the very least.
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3/21/2007  1:02 PM
Posted by TMS:

that's not going to get u Lewis by a longshot... i'd have to include Curry or D Lee to have any shot of getting him IMO... he's a 27 yr old player on the rise averaging 22 & 7 as a secondary scoring option on his team... no way will SEA trade him for players that don't have star potential at the very least.

I'm with TMS here regarding Frye. Frye is not good enough right now nor does he show the potential to one day be a bigtime complete NBA big man imo. There is no way Frye can bring back a legit star-level player in his prime. No way. That's why in my own recent recent post I suggested trading him for draft picks. I consider us lucky if we dealt him and got back a 1st rounder in the 20-30 range for this upcoming draft and if we could ever turn that pick into a Morris Almond or a Sean Williams, you know what, we came out ahead. I know it stings to here that (believe me I think we should be able to get a hell of a lot more in return for the 8th overall pick in the 2005 draft myself) but you gotta be realistic. All this stuff about dealing Frye for Ron Artest, Rashard Lewis, Kevin Garnett....please guys, come on now. Remember, this is a deep, deep draft coming up. Acquiring an additional 1st rounder even in the 20-30 range to go with our own pick would be huge - even worth dealing Frye.
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3/21/2007  1:13 PM
i think Philly makes sense cuz LB liked Channing & he played well under him last season... they have 3 1st rounders this year, 2 in the late round... we should try & nab those 2 late picks for Frye, or at least the higher of the 2 along w/a 2nd rounder... i think there's a good chance we can pick up a nice sleeper prospect if we go this route, & Channing would get a much better opportunity to realize his potential playing for LB in Philly than he would for Isiah in NY IMO.
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3/21/2007  1:23 PM
Lewis is going to the highest bidder, he's looking for the big payday, so if the Knicks get him they'll have to overpay, while giving up assets in the process. Lewis is good but he's not that good. Seattle either gets back lucrative returns for him or they let him walk to a team like Charlotte, Orlando, Raptors. Seattle will not pay for what I believe will be a high market for him.
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3/21/2007  1:48 PM
yea I agree Lewis will be too expensive for us. I'm thinking Orlando will get him, they've got the money and the need. He'd fit right in down there.

what we CAN do is aim to get a Lewis-esque type player. I'm talking about Alando Tucker. he's smaller but he's a Swingman with 3-point range, and a very solid NBA big body to post up smaller guys. he's very athletic, but he doesn't rely on his athleticism too much. he can cut to the basket, and he's got The David Lee Work Ethic. smart decision maker, doesn't force things. he's obviously not a rashard lewis but he gives us things that we are lacking that Lewis would provide at the cost of a few inches. Plus he is much more attainable, he is not a lottery pick and probably will be drafted late in the first round making him very gettable.
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3/21/2007  1:54 PM
Lewis never excited me. I like Balkman at the 3 and Lee at the 4. Curry or Frye is your center. The 1 and 2 position are the ones that we need to work on for the long term.
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3/21/2007  3:12 PM
Rashard is good but is he the type of player that can fit in with these knicks?

I think there will be a chemistry problem with rashard. He's a guy that has been seriously defered to. The knicks don't need a guy that you have to constantly call plays for. I seriously can't see marbs or lee or curry or any of the guys conforming to rashard.

Frankly I don't want the knicks to go that route.
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3/21/2007  3:32 PM
Let me just add that the knicks do need a scorer with 3pt range, BUT like mark Cuban eluded to yesterday (today in the papers), the knicks don't have to make a huge move. They just need to plug in the right guy to fit with the group and the soul of the team. I don't think rashard is the guy for the knicks.

[Edited by - enyspree on 21-03-2007 3:35 PM]
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3/21/2007  3:43 PM
i agree w/u bro... Rashard's a great young player, but in the words of SAS "we need a dawg up in here!".
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3/21/2007  4:53 PM
Let me get this straight how much cap room is out there, I don't see the Bobcats spending 12 million on a player no one really knows about outside of nba fans, they have no revenue down there and would probably opt for vince carter at the 2 because they have wallace....

If the Raptors/Orlando get him, we can thank Isiah for showing us two conference rivals asses for the next 5 years. Thanks Isiah! And if the Bulls get a nice lottery pick thats three teams he improved considerably in 1 1/2 years........

But if the Sonics are going to lose him for nothing I think Frye, Craword, Nate could get the deal done if we include money or our draft pick.

He isn't getting more than 12 million Curry is making 10, Lewis has actually been to the playoffs shoots a high percentage and grabs as many rbs as tits does so why no give him the money.
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3/21/2007  4:57 PM
And not to bring up endorsement money, but I bet you he could parlay his signing into ny into a couple of extra million especially since he puts us in contention. A shooter like that is too valuable.

Crawford, Frye, Nate, pick 20 plus 3 million gets it done.

Lewis is a player that feels he is underexposed and he has stated it on numerous occasions and he would get a ton of open looks here and play in the garden. He would raise his profile around the league, believe me the guy feels underappreciated
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3/21/2007  5:29 PM
Marbury
Balkman
Lewis
Lee
Curry


Not a bad start to playoff hopes.


I'd offer QRich/Crawford + Frye + Nate/Pick...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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3/21/2007  6:28 PM
So does the guy want to play ball and win a championship or does he wanna kiss babies and sell car insurance?

You know what F rashard Lewis! Who needs a jerk like him that is more about selling his face than the game.

How about "I want to play where the legends have played. I want to take my game to the next level and bring the winning tradition, etc"

you see now I don't respect the guy now! Thanks fellas!
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3/21/2007  8:22 PM
drink guineess.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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3/21/2007  9:22 PM
Alando Tucker! i'm telling you, he's very gettable in the draft for us, and he would help us in a lot of ways. he's got the RIGHT attitude and would fit right in.

but we still need a PG. that's our glaring problem right now. either Mardy needs more minutes, Nate needs to take this off-season to grow up, or we need to trade/draft one (which I thought we did in the first place with Collins but we didnt play him)
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3/21/2007  9:26 PM
^ dude shutup we get it.

Tucker is not a shooter, he's a scorer and a slasher, and he's undersized with a low ceiling.

And he's not very gettable considering he'll go lottery.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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3/21/2007  10:25 PM
nate and jamal are both from the seattle area, thats why i could see a nate, jamal, and channing for rashard working. if they asked for the 20th pick i'd demand their 2 2nd rounders (they have the grizzlies' so that should be very high and their own)

marbury, balkman, lewis, lee, curry w/ jeffries and rose giving veteran help off the bench in addition to hopefully a serviceable player isiah could find in the second round of the draft (he is good at that) gives the team a balance of defense, rebounding, outside shooting. francis would still be aroudn to backup marbury, and so would Q, but you really can't rely on either of those guys
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3/22/2007  2:07 AM
Posted by highfivesucka:

Alando Tucker! i'm telling you, he's very gettable in the draft for us, and he would help us in a lot of ways. he's got the RIGHT attitude and would fit right in.

but we still need a PG. that's our glaring problem right now. either Mardy needs more minutes, Nate needs to take this off-season to grow up, or we need to trade/draft one (which I thought we did in the first place with Collins but we didnt play him)

Hey start a thread on it! I would but I will let you do the honors.
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We need to make a run at Rashard Lewis in the off-season....

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