I pretty much say kiss the playoffs goodbye. To start off, the Raptors are a real good team, and in the future, will be GREAT, with all they got. I think they just need to improve their defense maybe via draft. However, the Knicks can still beat them and if they can't tonight, then the rest of the schedule is tough as hell and if we can't beat NOK at home, and the Raptors AT ALL, then how can we beat Dallas and LeBron without Craw and Lee?

To the homers: Let me tell you a small story about the Great Allanfan20. I used to be a pure Knicks optimist and expected nothing less than a championship every season which included the first 2 years they had losing records. Certain posters here such as Solace, TMS, Bip, fishmike, NewYork, Knicks1248 and others will tell you the same about me. I was just like nixluva. Now, how can things be so great, if the Knicks turned me from such a huge optimist, to someone who thinks not highly at all of this team. There's something wrong with the situation in Knicks land if they let that occur!

With that said. GO KNICKS! Kill the Raptors today!!! Yet, if they can't, I don't have much more hope for the team. In fact, I'll have none.

It's understandable that the Knicks minus 3 top players would have some issues winning games. I'm not put off by this. I think they've been trying, but this isn't the smartest team ever assembled. They make too many mistakes. We can't afford for that to keep happening. I wouldn't say that they're done for the year if they lose this one, but they'd be on the edge no doubt. The thing is that teams like Indy have equally tough games coming up, so they're likely to lose a few too and keep the knicks within reach.

If they don't win today I don't expect them to win many other games. Not only will they not make the playoffs, but they could lose like 6 in a row.