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3/7/2007  8:47 PM
he promised hium a pick---and while we can certainly question the pick itself--he was smart in the way he went about obtaining the player. I really believe we should do this with Almond--he's much much better than people are giving him credit for--he reminds me a LOT of ALLAN HOUSTON with a better ability to play defense and take it inside. We NEED this type of player BADLY
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3/7/2007  9:18 PM
I don't know about you guys but personally Frye has been the biggest disappointment this season. I was all over the Frye bandwagon last year, I was telling all my friends Frye is the real deal.... sigh.
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3/7/2007  11:32 PM
yo what are you talkin about briggs? He promised him that he'd take him?

I agree high five 100%
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3/8/2007  12:22 AM
Posted by Elite:

yo what are you talkin about briggs? He promised him that he'd take him?

I agree high five 100%

Thomas promised to pick Frye. In return, Frye canceled the rest of his workouts or something.
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3/8/2007  6:01 AM
Yeah, he made the promise and Frye stopped working out with other teams, which is why he was available when we picked. I am a little disappointed in Frye's performance this year, but I still think that he will become a solid player (just maybe not an all-star).
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3/8/2007  6:51 AM
Posted by highfivesucka:

I don't know about you guys but personally Frye has been the biggest disappointment this season. I was all over the Frye bandwagon last year, I was telling all my friends Frye is the real deal.... sigh.

Frye has been a bust sans 20 games last year. IT's draft record is a tad bit of hype. He always uses the Scott Laydumb excuse--but Layden also drafted John Stockton Karl Malone and Andrei Kirilenko and traded for Jeff Hornacek--not a bad team

But the point is it's a good technique if you can single in on a player. We need a few things, but a big 2G who can really shoot it is highest on my list.

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3/8/2007  5:19 PM
Frye was a terrible selection...

Hollinger had a good piece today on centers in the game that have an chance to perhaps make the top 10 of all time, curry was obviously absent, however Andrew Bynum was on the list.

I bet you Blacte on the wizards turns out to be a better pro, when all you can do is shoot and you can't even do that well when someone is on you, i think you need to be a little worried. Nate looks like a wasted pick as well because of attitude issues, and his selection was just baffling for what the team needed......

Give him a late late selection and he usually does good things.....

Other than McGrady there is nothing to get excited about. And when you give me camby please remember that players like Marbury, Allen, Kobe, Peja, Nash, etc were all taken after
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3/8/2007  5:49 PM
Big deal. He made a promise to a srub. He's Loren Woods, except a lotto pick instead of a mid-second rounder.

If Isiah's drafts went the way i wanted them --and my choices were flawed--the Knicks could have had: Granger, Head, Lee (yes, I wanted him after reading about the pre-draft camp), Marcus Williams and whoever. The Knicks could have had: Green, Jack, Lee, Williams and Balkman.

Green, Jack, Lee, Williams, Balkman >>> Granger, Head, Lee, Williams, whoever >>> Frye, Nate, Lee, Balkman, Collins

YOU DO NOT MAKE PROMISES DRAFT NIGHT. Either a player slips for no good reason and you break your word and agents don't trust you or you pick the guy and don't get top value. A terrible, terrible decision to do so.
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Big deal. He made a promise to a srub. He's Loren Woods, except a lotto pick instead of a mid-second rounder.

If Isiah's drafts went the way i wanted them --and my choices were flawed--the Knicks could have had: Granger, Head, Lee (yes, I wanted him after reading about the pre-draft camp), Marcus Williams and whoever. The Knicks could have had: Green, Jack, Lee, Williams and Balkman.

Green, Jack, Lee, Williams, Balkman >>> Granger, Head, Lee, Williams, whoever >>> Frye, Nate, Lee, Balkman, Collins

YOU DO NOT MAKE PROMISES DRAFT NIGHT. Either a player slips for no good reason and you break your word and agents don't trust you or you pick the guy and don't get top value. A terrible, terrible decision to do so.

Lakers made promise to Bynum to get him in the draft. I don't know why IT liked CF so much that he wouldve picked him #1??---but I think the strategy in the low 20s--could be successful. It's to late anyway--the player we need is jumping into the lottery day by day.

I'm sorry who was your pick this year?
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3/8/2007  8:07 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

he promised hium a pick---and while we can certainly question the pick itself--he was smart in the way he went about obtaining the player. I really believe we should do this with Almond--he's much much better than people are giving him credit for--he reminds me a LOT of ALLAN HOUSTON with a better ability to play defense and take it inside. We NEED this type of player BADLY

Just as long as we don't sign him to a seven year, one hundred million dollar contract, like we did to broken down Houston.
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3/8/2007  8:08 PM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by Elite:

yo what are you talkin about briggs? He promised him that he'd take him?

I agree high five 100%

Thomas promised to pick Frye. In return, Frye canceled the rest of his workouts or something.

He even became a bum, after he got paid.
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3/8/2007  8:10 PM
He always uses the Scott Laydumb excuse--but Layden also drafted John Stockton Karl Malone and Andrei Kirilenko and traded for Jeff Hornacek--not a bad team

Yeah? But what did he do for us? Absolutely NOTHING!
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3/8/2007  9:02 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by SupremeCommander:

Big deal. He made a promise to a srub. He's Loren Woods, except a lotto pick instead of a mid-second rounder.

If Isiah's drafts went the way i wanted them --and my choices were flawed--the Knicks could have had: Granger, Head, Lee (yes, I wanted him after reading about the pre-draft camp), Marcus Williams and whoever. The Knicks could have had: Green, Jack, Lee, Williams and Balkman.

Green, Jack, Lee, Williams, Balkman >>> Granger, Head, Lee, Williams, whoever >>> Frye, Nate, Lee, Balkman, Collins

YOU DO NOT MAKE PROMISES DRAFT NIGHT. Either a player slips for no good reason and you break your word and agents don't trust you or you pick the guy and don't get top value. A terrible, terrible decision to do so.

Lakers made promise to Bynum to get him in the draft. I don't know why IT liked CF so much that he wouldve picked him #1??---but I think the strategy in the low 20s--could be successful. It's to late anyway--the player we need is jumping into the lottery day by day.

I'm sorry who was your pick this year?


Just because a promise was made doesn't mean we couldn't have drafted Bynum...

I'm not sure about your question, but if it is who should the Knicks draft this time around, it's hard to say because everything keeps fluctuating. Having said that, the one guy I liked before he started climbing the rankings is Marco Belinelli. It seems he is an unrealistic option now though. Morris Almond is intriguing, but he hasn't faced elite competition so he's a bit of a risk. I like Arron Afflalo, but he'd be the safe pick of the trio because I don't see him becoming a great player... although I think he, Crawford and Balkman would compliment each other very, very nicely and I like that he comes from UCLA.

I'll let you know definitively who I want after the conference tournaments and the NCAA tournament.

I'm a big fan of the Best Player Available strategy, and this year the big men will dominate the lottery, meaning quality shooting guards will be available at the bottom of the draft. There isn't a decent point in this year's crop though.
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3/8/2007  9:43 PM
Just because a promise was made doesn't mean we couldn't have drafted Bynum...

I'd have to go with that at this point. I was concerned myself, when we passed the guy up. Especially when we picked up Nate! For crying out loud!
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Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by BRIGGS:
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Big deal. He made a promise to a srub. He's Loren Woods, except a lotto pick instead of a mid-second rounder.

If Isiah's drafts went the way i wanted them --and my choices were flawed--the Knicks could have had: Granger, Head, Lee (yes, I wanted him after reading about the pre-draft camp), Marcus Williams and whoever. The Knicks could have had: Green, Jack, Lee, Williams and Balkman.

Green, Jack, Lee, Williams, Balkman >>> Granger, Head, Lee, Williams, whoever >>> Frye, Nate, Lee, Balkman, Collins

YOU DO NOT MAKE PROMISES DRAFT NIGHT. Either a player slips for no good reason and you break your word and agents don't trust you or you pick the guy and don't get top value. A terrible, terrible decision to do so.

Lakers made promise to Bynum to get him in the draft. I don't know why IT liked CF so much that he wouldve picked him #1??---but I think the strategy in the low 20s--could be successful. It's to late anyway--the player we need is jumping into the lottery day by day.

I'm sorry who was your pick this year?


Just because a promise was made doesn't mean we couldn't have drafted Bynum...

I'm not sure about your question, but if it is who should the Knicks draft this time around, it's hard to say because everything keeps fluctuating. Having said that, the one guy I liked before he started climbing the rankings is Marco Belinelli. It seems he is an unrealistic option now though. Morris Almond is intriguing, but he hasn't faced elite competition so he's a bit of a risk. I like Arron Afflalo, but he'd be the safe pick of the trio because I don't see him becoming a great player... although I think he, Crawford and Balkman would compliment each other very, very nicely and I like that he comes from UCLA.

I'll let you know definitively who I want after the conference tournaments and the NCAA tournament.

I'm a big fan of the Best Player Available strategy, and this year the big men will dominate the lottery, meaning quality shooting guards will be available at the bottom of the draft. There isn't a decent point in this year's crop though.

--->Morris Almond is intriguing, but he hasn't faced elite competition so he's a bit of a risk

He was the leading scorer in last years NBA pre-draft camp and he's playing at a whole different level now. He has a very good physical build--he reminds me a lot of Allan Houston from Tenn--although this player is a better rebounder, longer with the same type of broad shoulders and shooting stroke H2O had. He also has more athletic ability. If you discount the first two picks in the draft--I don't see a better player TO ME projection-wise in terms of having the ability to score BIG in the NBA right away other than Almond. Kelvin Martin didn't exactly play against Duke every night--but he projected the same way-that's how I see this guy a kelvin martin/allan houston with better defensive and rebounding skills. I've seen Affalo play several times and I think Almond is clearly a superior prospect--a guy who has to carry his team while facing double and triple teaming every night. The Italian player looks slight of build from what I can see.
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