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Andrew
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3/1/2007  10:00 PM
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This brings us to the strange saga of Steve Francis, who acts as if he wants to be any other place besides New York.

Does anyone really believe that Francis was in such bad shape on Monday that he was talking about possibly being done for the season and now he is expected to play Friday? I don’t doubt that Francis is experiencing some soreness in his right knee. But if he can play tomorrow night against the Warriors, how come he couldn’t suit up on Wednesday when the Knicks needed him?


http://blogs.nydailynews.com/knicks/archives/2007/03/all_of_a_sudden_francis_is_hea.php



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3/1/2007  10:24 PM
Posted by Andrew:

Isola's Blog

This brings us to the strange saga of Steve Francis, who acts as if he wants to be any other place besides New York.

Does anyone really believe that Francis was in such bad shape on Monday that he was talking about possibly being done for the season and now he is expected to play Friday? I don’t doubt that Francis is experiencing some soreness in his right knee. But if he can play tomorrow night against the Warriors, how come he couldn’t suit up on Wednesday when the Knicks needed him?


http://blogs.nydailynews.com/knicks/archives/2007/03/all_of_a_sudden_francis_is_hea.php



I already called this and alluded to the fact even when he was down in Houston he wasn't as hurt as led to believe. Remember this is the guy that said last yr after being on the team for a few weeks, he'd be a lock as a starter. He just doesn't like it here.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-01-2007 9:45 PM]
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3/1/2007  11:27 PM
Posted by Andrew:

Isola's Blog

This brings us to the strange saga of Steve Francis, who acts as if he wants to be any other place besides New York.

Does anyone really believe that Francis was in such bad shape on Monday that he was talking about possibly being done for the season and now he is expected to play Friday? I don’t doubt that Francis is experiencing some soreness in his right knee. But if he can play tomorrow night against the Warriors, how come he couldn’t suit up on Wednesday when the Knicks needed him?


http://blogs.nydailynews.com/knicks/archives/2007/03/all_of_a_sudden_francis_is_hea.php

he's coming back? Great! I hope he finishes his contract here. I hope Thomas signs him again when it ends.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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3/1/2007  11:41 PM
What a joke.
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3/2/2007  12:04 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

What a joke.

You don't really know what' you want, do you?
I'll never trust this' team again.
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3/2/2007  12:06 AM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by nyk4ever:

What a joke.

You don't really know what' you want, do you?

I want Steve Francis to play well but thats like hoping for Jessica Alba to show up at my door right.... about.... now.

Nope shes not there.
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3/2/2007  12:08 AM
Give her time.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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3/2/2007  12:09 AM
Posted by 4949:

Give her time.

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3/2/2007  7:28 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by nyk4ever:

What a joke.

You don't really know what' you want, do you?

I want Steve Francis to play well but thats like hoping for Jessica Alba to show up at my door right.... about.... now.

Nope shes not there.

I think she tried to sneak in your window... but it was locked... so she went over to guns' instead. Tough break.
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3/2/2007  7:35 AM
this is all Larry's fault
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3/2/2007  8:52 AM
It led to Francis going back on the alcohol binge, John Lucas didn't help him enough.
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Posted by playa2:

It led to Francis going back on the alcohol binge, John Lucas didn't help him enough.

Good call. It was an unsual assignment. In typical KNick fashion the propoganda machine keeps it under wraps. Knicks might have caught him before the league suspended him and sent him to reform school, or "The Lucas House for overprivilaged children".

Now if we can cure CryBury of his addiction to cheap sneakers we might have somting.

Marbury has "turf toe"?

Ok, anyone have those plastic pieces of crap? They suck! No pro player, let alone an old dude like me even want to play in those "Slippers"! Maybe Craw busted his ankle trying to support CryBury's WalMart Indochina youth sweatshop special man made uppers?

I hope CryBury has the sense to have some secret stash of look alike "CryBury1's" and keeps then under lock and key when not in use.

Pay a guy 20 mil to wear fawteen dallah skippies and he gets turf toe shore does not sound like a good investment to me.

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3/2/2007  9:34 AM
Because of the Crawford situation, Francis tries to come back from injury against advice, better judgement, etc....and people are killing him for it.

Unbelievable.

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3/2/2007  9:48 AM
If Francis is ok to play, why did he talk about shutting it down for the season just a few days ago? You think he feels like he owes the Knicks his health and well being? You think he thinks that if the Knicks make the playoffs he has a shot at a ring?
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3/2/2007  10:00 AM
Posted by Andrew:

If Francis is ok to play, why did he talk about shutting it down for the season just a few days ago? You think he feels like he owes the Knicks his health and well being? You think he thinks that if the Knicks make the playoffs he has a shot at a ring?

If I recall the quote correctly, he said he wasn't sure if he could play again this season, and he sounded very sullen and frustrated. Then Crawford got hurt, leaving the team shorthanded. It is a different situation than what it was a week ago.

I guess one could draw the conclusion that he was faking or dogging it, but you would have to ignore the way he has been playing, no dunks, no explosiveness, obviously hurt.

In regard to the sentences I made red: I don't know if he thinks those things, but they are extreme conclusions to draw. I think the more likely conclusion is that if the team has the players to fill the back-court without him they/he decided that he should not be out there at 50%. Now, with the team broken down, he is going to try and give what he can.

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3/2/2007  10:11 AM
Posted by joec32033:

The Knicks average age is 26.2.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/roster?team=nyk (at the bottom).


Atlanta-25
Boston-24.9
Charlotte-27.1
Chicago-25.6
Cleveland-27.6
Dallas-27
Denver-25.9
Detroit-28.6
Golden State-25.2
Houston-27.6
Indy-26.8
LA Clips-26.9
Lakers-25.8
Memphis-26
Miami-28.8
Milwaukee-25.4
Minnesota-26.7
Jersey-26.7
New Orleans-25.8
Orlando-26.2
Philly-25.5
PHX-29.2
Portland-24.7
Sacramento-27.2
SA-29.2
Seattle-25.2
Toronto-25.8
Utah-25.9
Washington-26.3

I had to go individual team pages, so I didn't post a link for each. You can get to them using the first link.

I remember reading that the average age is 26 and we're right at that number. So we're NOT a young team; we're just a bad team
On edit: Thanks for the good work, Joe!

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 03-02-2007 10:12 AM]
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3/2/2007  10:17 AM
The Knicks average age is 26.2.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/roster?team=nyk (at the bottom).


Atlanta-25
Boston-24.9
Charlotte-27.1
Chicago-25.6
Cleveland-27.6
Dallas-27
Denver-25.9
Detroit-28.6
Golden State-25.2
Houston-27.6
Indy-26.8
LA Clips-26.9
Lakers-25.8
Memphis-26
Miami-28.8
Milwaukee-25.4
Minnesota-26.7
Jersey-26.7
New Orleans-25.8
Orlando-26.2
Philly-25.5
PHX-29.2
Portland-24.7
Sacramento-27.2
SA-29.2
Seattle-25.2
Toronto-25.8
Utah-25.9
Washington-26.3

I had to go individual team pages, so I didn't post a link for each. You can get to them using the first link.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 03-02-2007 10:17 AM]
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3/2/2007  10:18 AM
The reason my post is after the reply is I poop canned it then reposted it.
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3/2/2007  10:42 AM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Andrew:

If Francis is ok to play, why did he talk about shutting it down for the season just a few days ago? You think he feels like he owes the Knicks his health and well being? You think he thinks that if the Knicks make the playoffs he has a shot at a ring?

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In regard to the sentences I made red: I don't know if he thinks those things, but they are extreme conclusions to draw.


I posted those statements because those were the conclusions you drew.

Posted by oohah:
Francis tries to come back from injury against advice, better judgement, etc....and people are killing him for it.
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3/2/2007  10:44 AM
Posted by joec32033:

The Knicks average age is 26.2.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/roster?team=nyk (at the bottom).


Atlanta-25
Boston-24.9
Charlotte-27.1
Chicago-25.6
Cleveland-27.6
Dallas-27
Denver-25.9
Detroit-28.6
Golden State-25.2
Houston-27.6
Indy-26.8
LA Clips-26.9
Lakers-25.8
Memphis-26
Miami-28.8
Milwaukee-25.4
Minnesota-26.7
Jersey-26.7
New Orleans-25.8
Orlando-26.2
Philly-25.5
PHX-29.2
Portland-24.7
Sacramento-27.2
SA-29.2
Seattle-25.2
Toronto-25.8
Utah-25.9
Washington-26.3

I had to go individual team pages, so I didn't post a link for each. You can get to them using the first link.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 03-02-2007 10:17 AM]

Not to be a geek, but any site that shows median age? That might be a better indicator, since any team with a 40 year old player gets nailed and any team with a 19 year old player gets a boost in the age category. Just a thought.
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