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MS
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2/22/2007  9:27 AM
Its quite clear we aren't going anywhere after last nights typical lost, Miami is floundering and may lose Wade for an extended period of time, Riley is about to retire again if he doesn't get anything done, and he has been known to make panic moves.

They are looking into Mike James, why not try to move crawford for james posey, it makes sense for both teams, it gives the knicks some room and it makes crawford what he is supposed to be, a dynmaic third scorer, he is a good kid and i'll wish him well, but the fact of the matter is there is no room on the team for bad defense at multiple position especially since Marbury, Francis, and Q are all breaking down.

We are headed towards the lottery, and will likely give our 6-9 pick to the bulls. We need to start over, and Isiah has to do a better job figuring out what he wants to do. We didn't take a pg in the draft because we didn't need anonter guard? , Now with every guard on the roster hurt, Isiah makes a half hearted pick trying to move frye to the nets to get kidd or carter. The guy is a joke, Fyre is becoming Loren Woods before our eyes and we have no direction.

Our most important player doesn't start, we just got blown out for the 15th time this season the 11th by more than 15 points, we constantly quit, don't give effort, have made little progressed and one of our most effective players, Balkman can't find the court because our gm, made the mistake again of bringing in a player with a soft mentally weak reputation. Good idea in new york.

Its time to give up and see what we have, do I want to? No....But they seem to already have...

Rest Steph & Q, play collins, nate, balkman, lee, Frye, Curry....and see what we have for the future
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2/22/2007  9:29 AM
Awesome, JC is my FAVORITE PLAYER...he will definitely help a contender like the HEAT. I cannot wait to watch one of our guys do awesome for another team. I hope Lee, one of my other favorite players goes too and helps them as well. We can then say, well, we had those two first!
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2/22/2007  9:30 AM
How's that trade gonna help Isiah meet Dolan's mandate? You have to look at it from Isiah's perspective.
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2/22/2007  9:34 AM
Mike James is perfect for them. A scorer with playoff experience.
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2/22/2007  9:34 AM
Posted by Andrew:

Mike James is perfect for them. A scorer with playoff experience.

And solid defense. James would help them more than Jamal would and would fit better once Wade returns.
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2/22/2007  9:40 AM
Beat the Magic, We are playoff bound!

Lose a road game, WE SUCK!

THe bi-polar coaster of our knick lives!

JC ain't going no where. His departure would make us old again very quick.

And it would put Nate in the rotation.

We don't tank this year for one bit!

I hate Isiah, but for now we can only hope he succeeds.

We have to move Francis!
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2/22/2007  9:40 AM
If JC is your favorite player may I ask why?

Well at this point I guess your right, but what is going to help Isiah anyway. We are in a terrible conference the teams are subpar. Our fat ******* owner doesn't have a clue about running a sports franchise, and will retain isiah no matter what.

We have had the benefit of other teams, injuries and still can't make the playoffs, disgraceful.

The Nets have been playing more than half the season without two of their four best players and they have no bench
The Bucks have played without Redd for most of the season and lost a starter for the year
The Heat have played half the season without Shaq and now wade is going to be out

Three teams in the playoff picture last year that may not make it, and we can't beat the sixers with the bucks coming into the garden. I think Crawford stinks and has been a huge problem for this team. Queen you obviously don't watch basketball, Crawford shoots 40% and is turnover prone, and scores usually after he wastes half of the shot clock, trying to move a player that is ineffective, warrants trading david lee, are you on drugs
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2/22/2007  9:41 AM
We can't, he can't defend anyone and is turnover prone and injured no one is taking francis....

How are we old again if we move one player?
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2/22/2007  9:54 AM
Posted by MS:

If JC is your favorite player may I ask why?
Please tell me you weren't directing that question to me! I thought eveyrone knew that D Lee was my favorite Knick and that I don't like the way Jamal plays at all. I think it's not part of winning basketball.


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 02-22-2007 09:55 AM]
MS
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2/22/2007  9:59 AM
Dude, no i was not directing the question to you, DLee should be everyone favorite player.....

Varejo in cleveland would also be nice off the bench as the backup center, we need more high energy guys thats why balkman needs to play over jared jefferies.
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2/22/2007  10:14 AM
Posted by MS:

We are headed towards the lottery, and will likely give our 6-9 pick to the bulls. We need to start over, and Isiah has to do a better job figuring out what he wants to do. We didn't take a pg in the draft because we didn't need anonter guard? , Now with every guard on the roster hurt, Isiah makes a half hearted pick trying to move frye to the nets to get kidd or carter. The guy is a joke, Fyre is becoming Loren Woods before our eyes and we have no direction.

Our most important player doesn't start, we just got blown out for the 15th time this season the 11th by more than 15 points, we constantly quit, don't give effort, have made little progressed and one of our most effective players, Balkman can't find the court because our gm, made the mistake again of bringing in a player with a soft mentally weak reputation. Good idea in new york.

Its time to give up and see what we have, do I want to? No....But they seem to already have...

Rest Steph & Q, play collins, nate, balkman, lee, Frye, Curry....and see what we have for the future

MS you've got to be kidding about this team being headed for the lottery? You know this after one bad loss? You can forsee that this team will never be able to do what it has to do, to get one of the last playoff spots? You don't know that at all. It's crazy to be so pessimistic so soon. We didn't lose any ground, despite how bad the loss was. It's still just one loss.

By the way we DID pick a PG in the draft!!! What the heck is wrong with you? Mardy Collins is a PG. This team has direction and we aren't far off from being a team that can challenge for the playoffs and one day a title. It's not like this team can't play with any team in the league. We just haven't been able to find consistency. It's my guess that you just don't like the players on this team and like many fans LOVE the players on other teams. There are always guys like you that think the grass is greener in someone elses yard. Many players look great until you see them everyday and can see their weaknesses.

You're NUTS if you actually believe that it's time to rest Steph, Q etc. and basically give up on the season at this point.
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2/22/2007  10:21 AM
^ LOL.

Nutsluva strikes again. Never before has one person spoken so much and said so little.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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2/22/2007  10:24 AM
Yes I am nuts? Are you on drugs

We are fighting for our playoff lives and go into Philly, one of the worst teams in the league and get blown off the court. We are headed towards the playoffs or a title? Give me a ****ing break, how are we not headed towards the lottery we are in 10th place? The Knicks have to win 39-41 games to make the playoffs, you think thats realistic.

Whats wrong with me, I will tell you Jared Jefferies is one of the worst starters in the league now he is untradable because of his trade kicker that Isiah gave him, Francis is untradable and we gave up a young player in the deal and you wan't me to be excited about Collins? Williams, Lowry for that matter were right there, I would rather have Lowry on my team than Crawford because he can play defense. We don't have one stopper on the court, Q gets injured every other game, and Balkman can't get off the bench....

Its not one loss we are 3-10, 3 and ****ing 10 on back to backs we start two 26year olds, a 24 year old center, and have two powerfowards in their second season, why is that? If you think last night doesn't matter get some perspective, we need to build something and the team comes out without a care in the world/.....

Isiah "I think our fans want it more than we do" Sign of losers......If they want to prove otherwise they should compete....

The grass isn't greener always, but you name me four players on this team that you think are winners
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2/22/2007  10:40 AM
Posted by Queeniepop:

Awesome, JC is my FAVORITE PLAYER...he will definitely help a contender like the HEAT. I cannot wait to watch one of our guys do awesome for another team. I hope Lee, one of my other favorite players goes too and helps them as well. We can then say, well, we had those two first!

Crawford can be a better player with a coach that stresses discipline.

Didn't Crawford play within himself more all around under LB

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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2/22/2007  10:50 AM
Crawford is not playing well for us but if we trade him and do not get back a outside scorer like Carter we are immediately going to be a lottery team
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2/22/2007  10:54 AM
Posted by nixluva:
Posted by MS:

We are headed towards the lottery, and will likely give our 6-9 pick to the bulls. We need to start over, and Isiah has to do a better job figuring out what he wants to do. We didn't take a pg in the draft because we didn't need anonter guard? , Now with every guard on the roster hurt, Isiah makes a half hearted pick trying to move frye to the nets to get kidd or carter. The guy is a joke, Fyre is becoming Loren Woods before our eyes and we have no direction.

Our most important player doesn't start, we just got blown out for the 15th time this season the 11th by more than 15 points, we constantly quit, don't give effort, have made little progressed and one of our most effective players, Balkman can't find the court because our gm, made the mistake again of bringing in a player with a soft mentally weak reputation. Good idea in new york.

Its time to give up and see what we have, do I want to? No....But they seem to already have...

Rest Steph & Q, play collins, nate, balkman, lee, Frye, Curry....and see what we have for the future

MS you've got to be kidding about this team being headed for the lottery? You know this after one bad loss? You can forsee that this team will never be able to do what it has to do, to get one of the last playoff spots? You don't know that at all. It's crazy to be so pessimistic so soon. We didn't lose any ground, despite how bad the loss was. It's still just one loss.

By the way we DID pick a PG in the draft!!! What the heck is wrong with you? Mardy Collins is a PG. This team has direction and we aren't far off from being a team that can challenge for the playoffs and one day a title. It's not like this team can't play with any team in the league. We just haven't been able to find consistency. It's my guess that you just don't like the players on this team and like many fans LOVE the players on other teams. There are always guys like you that think the grass is greener in someone elses yard. Many players look great until you see them everyday and can see their weaknesses.

You're NUTS if you actually believe that it's time to rest Steph, Q etc. and basically give up on the season at this point.


Kidding about heading to the lottery? What are you talking about? Where are we in the standings my friend?
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2/22/2007  11:14 AM
We are in 10th place a huge accomplishment for the highest payroll in the nba, in a injured conference of underachieving teams
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2/22/2007  11:15 AM
Posted by Panos:

Kidding about heading to the lottery? What are you talking about? Where are we in the standings my friend?

I'm sure on whatever planet he came from, his post made sense. Here on earth, we have to assume he's drunk or high.
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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2/22/2007  11:20 AM
What I said was that you don't know after one loss that this team won't eventually win enough to get out of the lottery. You guys seem to forget that this team is only 3 games back at this point. It's not impossible for this team to catch the teams ahead of them. Who are we talking about? Orlando, NJ and Miami? Those teams aren't locks to play well the rest of the way either.

MS is basically saying we should just give up and if you other fools wanna go along with that then I don't know what to say about you're thinking process. Who gives up at this point when the team is still in contention? You guys are way off on this one. It's not even close to time to start thinking about quitting on this season or this team. What would you all be saying if they had won last night and were now 2 games out of a playoff spot? WHAT A JOKE!
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2/22/2007  11:22 AM
Posted by MS:

Dude, no i was not directing the question to you, DLee should be everyone favorite player.....

Varejo in cleveland would also be nice off the bench as the backup center, we need more high energy guys thats why balkman needs to play over jared jefferies.
Okay, no prob! Yeah, I like Varejo a lot too.
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