Take a look at the other big teams in the East the past few years:


Philly - got rid of Iverson; rebuilding

Nets - rumored to be getting rid of Kidd/Carter; set to rebuild

Orlando - got rid of Francis; rebuilding

Toronto - got rid of Carter; rebuilt

New Orleans - got rid of Dizzle; rebuilt

Chicago - got rid of TONS OF SHIT; rebuilt




Our problem is quite simple - we should've dumped Marbury when we had the chance, and rebuilt through the draft. Camp Cablevision wants us to assume we have a franchise player (first it was Houston, then Marbury, now Curry..........since when do franchise players skip every 3 years?)

We'll never rebuild, we'll be forever building on the fly. I can promise you that...


But hey I'm a fan and all so I'll root.

Let's be honest here, only about 1/2 of those teams rebuilt through the draft no?

Philly- after Iverson they blundered by drafting VanHorn (2nd overall) and Hughes in consecutive years. Proof that drafting isn't an exact science.

Nets- only drafted Jefferson of their big 3. The other were driven by good luck and timing (dumping Marbury and the infamous Toronto fire sale)

Orlando- these guys spent years spinning their wheels trying to find a complimentary player for T-Mac. Ok, so they move a top 10 player and draft a stud. They stil have a ways to go if you ask me..

Toronto- see Orlando. They move Vince and draft Bosh. Still, they're not a lock for anything. Oh yeah, remember Mighty Mouse and Camby? Good drafts got them nowhere fast!

New Orleans- They didn't have a choice but to build via the draft and they got an awesome cp3. But really, they shouldn't even count.

Chi-town- THey've been putrid bro. These clowns have had at least one (or more) top-10 picks in each of the last 6 drafts. Even a blind squirrel fins a nut once in a while. What about all talent that didn't pan out for them like Brand and Artest? Or picks like Fizer and the injury to Jay-Will?

We've got the best group of young guys that this city has seen in years. Yup, they've all got holes in their games and test our patience on a nightly basis. But I think Steph becomes even more valuable as his contract shortens. He's been been the most stable PG and defender we've had all year.. And wouldn't have netted us anything other then a couple of trash deals in return. Moving him too early would cripple us, patience with his deal is key.

All of those teams do have something in common though- years of cellar dwelling before a bright turn-around.

Posted by bobs3304:
I think you're being a bit over-optimistic about the talent on this team. Talent don't win ball games. As evidenced the past 3 years.

sure it does... I'm just not sure we have much

Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury still sells some jerseys. He's not goin' anywhere.

not sure what your point is.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury still sells some jerseys. He's not goin' anywhere.

Bonn, the Knicks also traded Ewing (Huge Jersey seller) and forced Houston to retire (Big jersey seller.) I'm pretty sure that if they can trade Marbury for the good of the team (Or company) they'll do it.

I don't think Dolan ran the team than but I could be wrong. They also got a fairly big name player in Glen Rice.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 02-21-2007 9:17 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury still sells some jerseys. He's not goin' anywhere.

Bonn, the Knicks also traded Ewing (Huge Jersey seller) and forced Houston to retire (Big jersey seller.) I'm pretty sure that if they can trade Marbury for the good of the team (Or company) they'll do it.

I don't think Dolan ran the team than but I could be wrong. They also got a fairly big name player in Glen Rice.

[Edited by - bonn1997 on 02-21-2007 9:17 PM]

Dolan was in charge in 1997 I believe. Glen Rice was done by then and we already had Houston and Sprewell. I probably forgot to mention the Knicks traded another jersey seller in Sprewell for Softy Van Horn. I don't think the jerseys influence the garden decisions. I'm not a Dolan fan in any sense of the word, but he's not THAT shallow.

Posted by arkrud:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by bobs3304:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Marbury still sells some jerseys. He's not goin' anywhere.

not sure what your point is.

The team will keep players who bring in instant cash. Marbury brings in more cash today than any role player he'd be traded for. The team is owned by a corporation with stockholders around the world who aren't going to tolerate a decrease in stock price just so the Knicks can genuinely rebuild.

How the hell the team with worthless roster can have any influence on Cablevision Stock prise?
Are you out of you mind!
Knick are just a part of their advertising machine and is considered as unavoidable loss regardless. -
Nobody cares about how they play - they just need inoudh controversy to bring atantion to the Garden

I think the Knicks represent roughly 3% of Cablevision's profits. That's an important piece to any good businessperson

Jim Dolan is a fantastic franchise owner and widely respected and admired around the league. If anyone can resurrect the Knicks franchise, he can.

He also has his own band: JD and the Straight Shot. So even if the Knicks sucks, who cares? We got tunes.