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2/19/2007  6:52 PM
Eddy Curry, Channing Frye and Nate Robinson for Monta Ellis, Mickael Pietrus and Andris Biedrins.

We get 3 players and they get 3 players. Discuss.


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2/19/2007  6:57 PM

I'm not sure if Don Nelson would want to change his style...We are giving him two players who can excel in the half court game...Nelson wants to run and gun...
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2/19/2007  7:02 PM
i'd make that trade in less than 1/2 a second but don nelson would laugh in my face.
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2/19/2007  10:29 PM
What if you take out Pietrus and Robinson - leaving you with

Curry and Frye for Ellis and Biedrins.
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2/19/2007  10:29 PM
Posted by holfresh:


I'm not sure if Don Nelson would want to change his style...We are giving him two players who can excel in the half court game...Nelson wants to run and gun...

your being far too kind.
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2/19/2007  10:54 PM
I like the idea of trading with Golden State for a lot for a few reasons. Here's a few:

(1) First, they have a surplus of talent on that team and as talented as they are, they're unbalanced. Therefore you would think Mullin should be more willing to make a deal, and a fair deal at that, by Thursday. More so than most GMs whose socks would have to be blown off in order to make a deal for that one player they think another covets. No nonsense as in, "OK Zeke, but I want both your 1st and 2nd rounders plus you have to take Adonal Foyle off our hands" type stuff. At least I don't feel like he would push for some crazy, big money deal with us. Just the principal players involved. No Francis, Malik Rose and Adonal Foyle involved. I like the idea that Pietrus' and Biedrins' contracts aren't big money deals. And neither are our young players' contracts - Frye, Lee, Nate, Balkman and Mardy. Plus, without getting crazy we have Cato's expiring and more than managable contract to throw in as an adjustment to make something work.

(2) Mullin's got capable replacements on that team for the guys that could go in a trade (JRich/Harrington/Jackson/Azubuike/Barnes can more than compensate for Pietrus' departure in a potential trade as can Patrick O'Bryant for Biedrins). It's nice knowing you have someone as good or not better that's ready to fill in for a guy you just traded. At least that's how I'd feel. I would be a little more at ease in pulling the trigger on something and wouldn't be as hesitant if I had the surplus of talent and roster flexibility Mullin has at certain positions.

(3) If we ever dealt Frye, Lee or Nate to the Warriors and any of them went on to become all-stars (worst case scenario for us) it would be better to have them out west than to see them more and compete against them in our own conference. If we're gonna deal any of our young talent, let it be with a Western Conference club.

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Bottom line is I like Pietrus and Biedrins a lot. And I want to team them up with Curry. With 35+ minutes and 15+ shot attempts a game, I think Pietrus could be an all-star. That's how much ability I think he has. Plus, he's a good defender. I like his potential. His problem right now is he's never going to reach his potential out there playing in the shadow of Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Harrington and eventually Patrick O'Bryant. He needs a team that's going to bring him in to be a main cog - by that I mean a first or second option. Only then will this kid really start to shine. But I'm telling you, the whole package is there.

And Biedrins is the big man we've been looking for to team up with Curry. He's young (born in 1986 - 3 yrs. younger than Lee), bigger than Lee (6'11" - 7'0", 240 lb.), runs the court, rebounds well and blocks shots at a high clip (something Lee and Frye don't do). His game is exactly what we need out of a C/PF - a big, rugged dude that rebounds and defends. And the offense will come. I like the fact that he gets almost all of his points in close off tip-ins and put-backs or from running the floor and filling the lane. Doesn't have to have his # called in order to be effective like Curry. Perfect guy to play alongside Curry. The one glaring thing with Biedrins so far is that he looks to be a little foul prone (he's leading the league with a whopping 205 personal fouls). But he's young and still learning the game. That's more than correctable especially when you consider that the Knick coaching staff has gotten Eddy Curry to cut his fouls down this year, specifically the offensive fouls. That's a big tribute to Mark Aguirre and there's no doubt he could do the same with Biedrins.

For the Warriors, you would think that Mullin and Nellie would be interested in our young guys. From a Warriors point of view, this is how I look at the incoming talent in a deal with Knicks:

Frye - Nellie loves offensive talent. He'd be drooling to get his hands on a guy like Frye. If there's one thing Frye can do well it's shoot the ball from anywhere. If there's any coach in the league that can maximize Frye's already potent offensive abilities, it's Don Nelson. And Frye's a good kid - he'd do whatever Nellie told him to do because he knows he'd be better off in the long run because of it. Plus, Frye's young and can run the court. I really think Frye is a center and we've be using him the wrong way ever since we got him to be honest. Look for him to play some center out there for them up until O'Bryant is ready to seize the role full-time. Then he makes for one of the best backup centers in the league if and when O'Bryant becomes a star - and that's all assuming Nellie doesn't wind up turning Frye into an all-star himself. Don't count that out. Plus his size at 6'11" make the loss of Biedrins a little easier.

Lee - Nellie would love Lee out there. Under Nelson, I could see Lee handling the ball more and I could see Nellie running stuff through Lee much like he did with Anthony Mason in his short stint with us. Remember that? Nellie loved Mason. Thing is Lee's better than Mason. He may not be as strong, but he's taller, can handle it as good as Mase could, is just as good if not a better passer than Mase, and could potentially have a better overall offensive game than Mase (he's got as better jumper with more range and has made himself into a dependable foul shooter). Under Nelson Lee could be a 15 pt./11 reb./7 assist a night guy for them. Easily. Maybe even more.

Nate - Right now he looks a little similar to Monta Ellis, but if used properly he could be so much more than that. He can run and Nellie wants to run first and foremost. Again, not to sound like a broken record, but under Nellie Nate could become something really specially. With freedom to play his game, picture a much more potent version of Earl Boykins. Don't ya think Nellie and Mullin would love the excitement Nate would bring to that rather dull crowd out there in the Bay Area every night?

Balkman - Nellie loves uptempo ball and in order to start fast breaks, you still need defenders and rebounders and this kid could be one of the leagues best ignitors if ever given any PT. How much would Nellie love see Balk rip a rebound down or block a shot on the perimeter, push the ball up himself and either finish with a thunderous dunk or feed someone else for two? Another low-risk/high-reward player that could make home games very exciting out there for them. His type of hustle is rare and would help fill the seats. The type of guy that would make Mullin look like a genius for including him in the deal.

Collins - Hasn't gotten a chance to do much of anything for us so we're all not sure exactly what he is exactly. But if you go back to his Temple days under Don Chaney, Collins was a big long PG who ran the offense, got people involved and played absolutely great defense. You don't think they could use someone like that. I'm sure Mullin would love to get this kid back in a trade to develop. Plus, we've seen that if Baron goes down, even with all the offensive talent they have, they're in trouble. We've seen that right before the break. I know they blew us out but before that they lost a home game to the lowly Atlanta Hawks. I saw most of that game, and you can chalk that loss up to not having a real playmaker out on the court for that entire game. Collins would be a nice PG with some unique attributes to develop to play behind Baron Davis.

Well there's my case for a fair trade between Isiah and Mullin. Trading with Golden State would be my first option to get something done - I like Pietrus and Biedrins that much. Only a couple of days left - can't wait to see what happens!
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2/19/2007  11:06 PM
Posted by codeunknown:

What if you take out Pietrus and Robinson - leaving you with

Curry and Frye for Ellis and Biedrins.

Curry should not be traded, and GS is not moving Ellis...
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Posted by Finestrg:

I like the idea of trading with Golden State for a lot for a few reasons. Here's a few:

(1) First, they have a surplus of talent on that team and as talented as they are, they're unbalanced. Therefore you would think Mullin should be more willing to make a deal, and a fair deal at that, by Thursday. More so than most GMs whose socks would have to be blown off in order to make a deal for that one player they think another covets. No nonsense as in, "OK Zeke, but I want both your 1st and 2nd rounders plus you have to take Adonal Foyle off our hands" type stuff. At least I don't feel like he would push for some crazy, big money deal with us. Just the principal players involved. No Francis, Malik Rose and Adonal Foyle involved. I like the idea that Pietrus' and Biedrins' contracts aren't big money deals. And neither are our young players' contracts - Frye, Lee, Nate, Balkman and Mardy. Plus, without getting crazy we have Cato's expiring and more than managable contract to throw in as an adjustment to make something work.

(2) Mullin's got capable replacements on that team for the guys that could go in a trade (JRich/Harrington/Jackson/Azubuike/Barnes can more than compensate for Pietrus' departure in a potential trade as can Patrick O'Bryant for Biedrins). It's nice knowing you have someone as good or not better that's ready to fill in for a guy you just traded. At least that's how I'd feel. I would be a little more at ease in pulling the trigger on something and wouldn't be as hesitant if I had the surplus of talent and roster flexibility Mullin has at certain positions.

(3) If we ever dealt Frye, Lee or Nate to the Warriors and any of them went on to become all-stars (worst case scenario for us) it would be better to have them out west than to see them more and compete against them in our own conference. If we're gonna deal any of our young talent, let it be with a Western Conference club.

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Bottom line is I like Pietrus and Biedrins a lot. And I want to team them up with Curry. With 35+ minutes and 15+ shot attempts a game, I think Pietrus could be an all-star. That's how much ability I think he has. Plus, he's a good defender. I like his potential. His problem right now is he's never going to reach his potential out there playing in the shadow of Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Harrington and eventually Patrick O'Bryant. He needs a team that's going to bring him in to be a main cog - by that I mean a first or second option. Only then will this kid really start to shine. But I'm telling you, the whole package is there.

And Biedrins is the big man we've been looking for to team up with Curry. He's young (born in 1986 - 3 yrs. younger than Lee), bigger than Lee (6'11" - 7'0", 240 lb.), runs the court, rebounds well and blocks shots at a high clip (something Lee and Frye don't do). His game is exactly what we need out of a C/PF - a big, rugged dude that rebounds and defends. And the offense will come. I like the fact that he gets almost all of his points in close off tip-ins and put-backs or from running the floor and filling the lane. Doesn't have to have his # called in order to be effective like Curry. Perfect guy to play alongside Curry. The one glaring thing with Biedrins so far is that he looks to be a little foul prone (he's leading the league with a whopping 205 personal fouls). But he's young and still learning the game. That's more than correctable especially when you consider that the Knick coaching staff has gotten Eddy Curry to cut his fouls down this year, specifically the offensive fouls. That's a big tribute to Mark Aguirre and there's no doubt he could do the same with Biedrins.

For the Warriors, you would think that Mullin and Nellie would be interested in our young guys. From a Warriors point of view, this is how I look at the incoming talent in a deal with Knicks:

Frye - Nellie loves offensive talent. He'd be drooling to get his hands on a guy like Frye. If there's one thing Frye can do well it's shoot the ball from anywhere. If there's any coach in the league that can maximize Frye's already potent offensive abilities, it's Don Nelson. And Frye's a good kid - he'd do whatever Nellie told him to do because he knows he'd be better off in the long run because of it. Plus, Frye's young and can run the court. I really think Frye is a center and we've be using him the wrong way ever since we got him to be honest. Look for him to play some center out there for them up until O'Bryant is ready to seize the role full-time. Then he makes for one of the best backup centers in the league if and when O'Bryant becomes a star - and that's all assuming Nellie doesn't wind up turning Frye into an all-star himself. Don't count that out. Plus his size at 6'11" make the loss of Biedrins a little easier.

Lee - Nellie would love Lee out there. Under Nelson, I could see Lee handling the ball more and I could see Nellie running stuff through Lee much like he did with Anthony Mason in his short stint with us. Remember that? Nellie loved Mason. Thing is Lee's better than Mason. He may not be as strong, but he's taller, can handle it as good as Mase could, is just as good if not a better passer than Mase, and could potentially have a better overall offensive game than Mase (he's got as better jumper with more range and has made himself into a dependable foul shooter). Under Nelson Lee could be a 15 pt./11 reb./7 assist a night guy for them. Easily. Maybe even more.

Nate - Right now he looks a little similar to Monta Ellis, but if used properly he could be so much more than that. He can run and Nellie wants to run first and foremost. Again, not to sound like a broken record, but under Nellie Nate could become something really specially. With freedom to play his game, picture a much more potent version of Earl Boykins. Don't ya think Nellie and Mullin would love the excitement Nate would bring to that rather dull crowd out there in the Bay Area every night?

Balkman - Nellie loves uptempo ball and in order to start fast breaks, you still need defenders and rebounders and this kid could be one of the leagues best ignitors if ever given any PT. How much would Nellie love see Balk rip a rebound down or block a shot on the perimeter, push the ball up himself and either finish with a thunderous dunk or feed someone else for two? Another low-risk/high-reward player that could make home games very exciting out there for them. His type of hustle is rare and would help fill the seats. The type of guy that would make Mullin look like a genius for including him in the deal.

Collins - Hasn't gotten a chance to do much of anything for us so we're all not sure exactly what he is exactly. But if you go back to his Temple days under Don Chaney, Collins was a big long PG who ran the offense, got people involved and played absolutely great defense. You don't think they could use someone like that. I'm sure Mullin would love to get this kid back in a trade to develop. Plus, we've seen that if Baron goes down, even with all the offensive talent they have, they're in trouble. We've seen that right before the break. I know they blew us out but before that they lost a home game to the lowly Atlanta Hawks. I saw most of that game, and you can chalk that loss up to not having a real playmaker out on the court for that entire game. Collins would be a nice PG with some unique attributes to develop to play behind Baron Davis.

Well there's my case for a fair trade between Isiah and Mullin. Trading with Golden State would be my first option to get something done - I like Pietrus and Biedrins that much. Only a couple of days left - can't wait to see what happens!


Some interesting observations. I think you underestimate Ellis though - he's better than Nate by miles. Ellis is bigtime.
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2/19/2007  11:39 PM
Nope--I wouldnt trade EC.
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2/19/2007  11:48 PM
Pietrus can be had for the Full MLE if you want him so bad................
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2/20/2007  12:09 AM
Posted by Anji:

Pietrus can be had for the Full MLE if you want him so bad................

Not if someone trades for him by the deadline then locks him up longterm.
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2/20/2007  12:19 AM
And yeah Briggs, I'm with ya as far as hanging onto Curry. Zeke made the big trade for the kid and God knows we gave up a lot for him. He's playing pretty well - he could be better but he's playing well enough to show me that we can succeed if we start surrounding him with the right talent. Pietrus and Biedrins would be real nice additions to team up with Curry.
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2/20/2007  12:21 AM
Posted by Finestrg:

And yeah Briggs, I'm with ya as far as hanging onto Curry. Zeke made the big trade for the kid and God knows we gave up a lot for him. He's playing pretty well - he could be better but he's playing well enough to show me that we can succeed if we start surrounding him with the right talent. Pietrus and Biedrins would be real nice additions to team up with Curry.

You made some excellent posts Finestrg.

I agree, if we could somehow put Pietrus(someone I've been pining for) as well as Biendrins around Curry, I think we have a serious team on our hands. Like it or hate it, Curry is the focal point of this franchise and surrounding him with these 2 guys would be a HUGE step in building the proper team around him.
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2/20/2007  12:57 AM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by Finestrg:

I like the idea of trading with Golden State for a lot for a few reasons. Here's a few:

(1) First, they have a surplus of talent on that team and as talented as they are, they're unbalanced. Therefore you would think Mullin should be more willing to make a deal, and a fair deal at that, by Thursday. More so than most GMs whose socks would have to be blown off in order to make a deal for that one player they think another covets. No nonsense as in, "OK Zeke, but I want both your 1st and 2nd rounders plus you have to take Adonal Foyle off our hands" type stuff. At least I don't feel like he would push for some crazy, big money deal with us. Just the principal players involved. No Francis, Malik Rose and Adonal Foyle involved. I like the idea that Pietrus' and Biedrins' contracts aren't big money deals. And neither are our young players' contracts - Frye, Lee, Nate, Balkman and Mardy. Plus, without getting crazy we have Cato's expiring and more than managable contract to throw in as an adjustment to make something work.

(2) Mullin's got capable replacements on that team for the guys that could go in a trade (JRich/Harrington/Jackson/Azubuike/Barnes can more than compensate for Pietrus' departure in a potential trade as can Patrick O'Bryant for Biedrins). It's nice knowing you have someone as good or not better that's ready to fill in for a guy you just traded. At least that's how I'd feel. I would be a little more at ease in pulling the trigger on something and wouldn't be as hesitant if I had the surplus of talent and roster flexibility Mullin has at certain positions.

(3) If we ever dealt Frye, Lee or Nate to the Warriors and any of them went on to become all-stars (worst case scenario for us) it would be better to have them out west than to see them more and compete against them in our own conference. If we're gonna deal any of our young talent, let it be with a Western Conference club.

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Bottom line is I like Pietrus and Biedrins a lot. And I want to team them up with Curry. With 35+ minutes and 15+ shot attempts a game, I think Pietrus could be an all-star. That's how much ability I think he has. Plus, he's a good defender. I like his potential. His problem right now is he's never going to reach his potential out there playing in the shadow of Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Harrington and eventually Patrick O'Bryant. He needs a team that's going to bring him in to be a main cog - by that I mean a first or second option. Only then will this kid really start to shine. But I'm telling you, the whole package is there.

And Biedrins is the big man we've been looking for to team up with Curry. He's young (born in 1986 - 3 yrs. younger than Lee), bigger than Lee (6'11" - 7'0", 240 lb.), runs the court, rebounds well and blocks shots at a high clip (something Lee and Frye don't do). His game is exactly what we need out of a C/PF - a big, rugged dude that rebounds and defends. And the offense will come. I like the fact that he gets almost all of his points in close off tip-ins and put-backs or from running the floor and filling the lane. Doesn't have to have his # called in order to be effective like Curry. Perfect guy to play alongside Curry. The one glaring thing with Biedrins so far is that he looks to be a little foul prone (he's leading the league with a whopping 205 personal fouls). But he's young and still learning the game. That's more than correctable especially when you consider that the Knick coaching staff has gotten Eddy Curry to cut his fouls down this year, specifically the offensive fouls. That's a big tribute to Mark Aguirre and there's no doubt he could do the same with Biedrins.

For the Warriors, you would think that Mullin and Nellie would be interested in our young guys. From a Warriors point of view, this is how I look at the incoming talent in a deal with Knicks:

Frye - Nellie loves offensive talent. He'd be drooling to get his hands on a guy like Frye. If there's one thing Frye can do well it's shoot the ball from anywhere. If there's any coach in the league that can maximize Frye's already potent offensive abilities, it's Don Nelson. And Frye's a good kid - he'd do whatever Nellie told him to do because he knows he'd be better off in the long run because of it. Plus, Frye's young and can run the court. I really think Frye is a center and we've be using him the wrong way ever since we got him to be honest. Look for him to play some center out there for them up until O'Bryant is ready to seize the role full-time. Then he makes for one of the best backup centers in the league if and when O'Bryant becomes a star - and that's all assuming Nellie doesn't wind up turning Frye into an all-star himself. Don't count that out. Plus his size at 6'11" make the loss of Biedrins a little easier.

Lee - Nellie would love Lee out there. Under Nelson, I could see Lee handling the ball more and I could see Nellie running stuff through Lee much like he did with Anthony Mason in his short stint with us. Remember that? Nellie loved Mason. Thing is Lee's better than Mason. He may not be as strong, but he's taller, can handle it as good as Mase could, is just as good if not a better passer than Mase, and could potentially have a better overall offensive game than Mase (he's got as better jumper with more range and has made himself into a dependable foul shooter). Under Nelson Lee could be a 15 pt./11 reb./7 assist a night guy for them. Easily. Maybe even more.

Nate - Right now he looks a little similar to Monta Ellis, but if used properly he could be so much more than that. He can run and Nellie wants to run first and foremost. Again, not to sound like a broken record, but under Nellie Nate could become something really specially. With freedom to play his game, picture a much more potent version of Earl Boykins. Don't ya think Nellie and Mullin would love the excitement Nate would bring to that rather dull crowd out there in the Bay Area every night?

Balkman - Nellie loves uptempo ball and in order to start fast breaks, you still need defenders and rebounders and this kid could be one of the leagues best ignitors if ever given any PT. How much would Nellie love see Balk rip a rebound down or block a shot on the perimeter, push the ball up himself and either finish with a thunderous dunk or feed someone else for two? Another low-risk/high-reward player that could make home games very exciting out there for them. His type of hustle is rare and would help fill the seats. The type of guy that would make Mullin look like a genius for including him in the deal.

Collins - Hasn't gotten a chance to do much of anything for us so we're all not sure exactly what he is exactly. But if you go back to his Temple days under Don Chaney, Collins was a big long PG who ran the offense, got people involved and played absolutely great defense. You don't think they could use someone like that. I'm sure Mullin would love to get this kid back in a trade to develop. Plus, we've seen that if Baron goes down, even with all the offensive talent they have, they're in trouble. We've seen that right before the break. I know they blew us out but before that they lost a home game to the lowly Atlanta Hawks. I saw most of that game, and you can chalk that loss up to not having a real playmaker out on the court for that entire game. Collins would be a nice PG with some unique attributes to develop to play behind Baron Davis.

Well there's my case for a fair trade between Isiah and Mullin. Trading with Golden State would be my first option to get something done - I like Pietrus and Biedrins that much. Only a couple of days left - can't wait to see what happens!


Some interesting observations. I think you underestimate Ellis though - he's better than Nate by miles. Ellis is bigtime.

I'm not trying to underestimate Monta Ellis, believe me. I'm very impressed with what he's done for them out there. True, he's having a great season. He's really stepped it up, no question. But remember, by comparison, Ellis is getting about 35 mins. a night in GS to Nate's 18 a game here. Plus Nate is lucky if he even gets in games now-a-days as we've seen recently. Zeke really appears to have soured on him a little after the Denver fisaco. It's tough to compare the two this season with such a PT disparity but with all things equal I'd bet you'd see very similar #s if Nate got the same PT on a nightly basis as Monta Ellis. To me, they are very similar and bring a lot of the same things to the table. They're both scorers first and foremost. SGs trapped in PG bodies. They're both quick and can light it up. I actually think Nate might be a better 3-point shooter and FT shooter than Ellis and this kid's obviously bigger than Nate but very similar games.... Put it this way - say Nate was on the the Warriors, Richardson goes down 20-someodd games ago, Baron goes down and all of a sudden Nellie put Nate out there big minutes and gave him the greenlight to do whatever. What kind of numbers do you think Nate would be putting up for them? See what I mean. You could make a case that Nate might be able to do even more than this kid, who knows? Nate's a little on the immature side but the kid's got world-class ability for a man his size. Once Francis was brought on board developing Nate was kinda placed on the back burner.
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2/20/2007  9:56 AM
I don't think it makes any sense to give up Curry and Frye in the same trade unless you're getting a potentially dominant big back.
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2/20/2007  9:59 AM
I'm doing this trade quite fast, yes...
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2/20/2007  10:01 AM
Thing is, we'd have to clear up Marbury and Francis to make room for Ellis and then find ourselves a shooting guard.
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2/20/2007  10:07 AM
You know I would do this deal in a second......

Followed by Crawford to Miami for Poseys expiring deal....

Ellis
Pietrus
Balkman
Lee
Biedrus

Is it great maybe not, but is it balanced yes and there is a ton of front court energy and defense and we have a little wiggle room in a year and a half, curry is not the future, love the move and let isiah draft a guy this year.........
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2/20/2007  10:10 AM
If we can get pietrus for the midlevel we are set, thats why we need to move crawford asap, and then q to follow to get out of his contract to build for the future....

I wonder if the Hawks would accept a Francis, Crawford, Frye deal if we take back speedy and include smith.....
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USA
2/20/2007  10:45 AM
Posted by MS:

You know I would do this deal in a second......

Followed by Crawford to Miami for Poseys expiring deal....

Ellis
Pietrus
Balkman
Lee
Biedrus

Is it great maybe not, but is it balanced yes and there is a ton of front court energy and defense and we have a little wiggle room in a year and a half, curry is not the future, love the move and let isiah draft a guy this year.........

So we go from all offense little defense to all defense little offense. Nice.
“Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
Trade Idea: NY and Golden State

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