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Why The Knicks Won't Excel Come Playoff Time
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playa2
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2/14/2007  8:08 AM
One of the reason why the knicks will falter is not because they love their coach and love playing with each other compared to last season, what they get away with now with guard penetration for easy buckets and all will unfortunately be taken away with focused defensive schemes.

Anybody on the knicks that plays well for 3 qtrs will get doubled team in a playoff atmosphere come 4th qtr.

The playoffs consist of teams focusing in on what you like to do andthey take it away from you. The knicks still don't have a go to superstar to balance the books with their effective role players.

What we are witnessing this season is exciting and worth watching up and down basketball with some timely rebounding.

But in the playoffs all the good teams play defense, all box out and most knock down open shots , that's why they are in the playoffs.

Last but not least, all good playoff teams play TEAM DEFENSE!

Last night against the Fakers the Knicks made 50% of their shots and scored 90 points in the last three quarters.

Miami and Chicago-Detroit and sometimes Cleveland. All the other potential playoff teams just try and outscore you.







[Edited by - playa2 on 02-14-2007 08:19]
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2/14/2007  9:23 AM
i think our defense is solid but inconsistent....we have good defensive players(MARBS,Q,JJ2)WE JUST LACK DEFEfensive plays....we rather zone or play man to man
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2/14/2007  9:29 AM
Lets just get into the playoffs first.
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2/14/2007  9:30 AM
Posted by unstopaball12:

i think our defense is solid but inconsistent....we have good defensive players(MARBS,Q,JJ2)WE JUST LACK DEFEfensive plays....we rather zone or play man to man

You name is right man we UNSTOP A BALL team...
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2/14/2007  9:44 AM
Mora: Playoffs?

Don't talk to me about playoffs!

PLAYOFFS?
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2/14/2007  9:46 AM
our main problems are shot blocking/turnovers
Bonn1997
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2/14/2007  9:53 AM
The reason they won't excel come playoff time is that they'll be watching the playoffs on TV
playa2
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2/14/2007  10:55 AM
Bonn I dunno, many here who claim we were sabotoged last yr and this yr the eastern conf is the worst(record wise) it has been in yrs.

I described earlier four teams that will play good team defense come playoff time (Detroit-Miami-Chicago-Cleveland. That leaves 4 teams who will get in by outscoring opponents or who's improving on defense.

If the knicks make a trade for a superstar they would be considered of a team trying to seize the moment(weak conf) and go far in the playoffs, if they stay put with this roster as is.... then obviously making the playoffs would be the only goal.
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2/14/2007  11:09 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Lets just get into the playoffs first.
Posted by misterearl:

Mora: Playoffs?

Don't talk to me about playoffs!

PLAYOFFS?
Thank you!!

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 02-14-2007 11:09 AM]
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MS
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2/14/2007  11:18 AM
I think Cleveland is terrible and Ferry has done a god awful job, I think there is no reason to lost to them.....

Curry > Z
Lee > Gooden
James>>>> JJ
Q>> Hughes
Marbury >> Gibson

Our bench is far better, so why is cleveland far better, I just don't see it you can harras Lebron with Q and Balkman and the Lebron stopper Jefferies who did a masterful job of holding him to 34ppg last year, but i don't see Damon Jones and Marshall beating us.....

The Bulls are good but if we play with out heads and start the right players we should be able to give them a run for the money. Francis is going to really help perserve Marbury for a late season run.

If we can play 500 ball we might be able to get in
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2/14/2007  11:22 AM
Posted by playa2:

Bonn I dunno, many here who claim we were sabotoged last yr and this yr the eastern conf is the worst(record wise) it has been in yrs.

I described earlier four teams that will play good team defense come playoff time (Detroit-Miami-Chicago-Cleveland. That leaves 4 teams who will get in by outscoring opponents or who's improving on defense.

If the knicks make a trade for a superstar they would be considered of a team trying to seize the moment(weak conf) and go far in the playoffs, if they stay put with this roster as is.... then obviously making the playoffs would be the only goal.
Yeah, I meant if they stay put, I don't see them making the playoffs. Toronto IS better than the Knicks and the Knicks are 3 behind the 8th seeded team (which will improve with Shaq back).
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2/14/2007  11:31 AM
IF, and that's a HUGE IF, this team makes the playoffs, they'll be a NIGHTMARE for any team we play. Do you guys just ignore the fact that this team does things that are TAILOR MADE for the playoffs. We have a TRUE post up center and a one of the BEST rebounding teams in the league. WHY would that not work in the playoffs. In what year did those things cease to be very important in the playoffs. We can score in the halfcourt and it's our strength, so how are teams gonna be able to stop us when things slow down and we still have a major advantage inside and CRAZY speed outside? STEPH, JAMAL, FRANCIS and NATE are nearly IMPOSSIBLE to deal with unless you stay in a zone all game. But I remind you that teams have tried to zone us all year and now we're used to it. It's not as effective against us as it once was. You used to see the Knicks out there thinking and not being sure of what to do. Well you don't see that anymore. They are executing much more quickly now and there's a sense of purpose. Teams can't really stop us, but we have to get better at stopping other teams.

I have to laugh when I read so much doubt and negativity in almost every forum on the web. No matter what this team does now, we can't get away from the past. This is not that team anymore. They are gradually getting better and better. By the time the playoffs get here they'll be ready to compete, if they actually make it. Making it will be tough tho. The defense will have to improve even more for this team to be able to increase the winning % enough to overtake teams ahead of us. I'm not sure they can do it, but I think they've got a shot. So far this month they're off to a good start at 3-1.
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2/14/2007  12:15 PM
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
playa2
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2/14/2007  12:29 PM
We don't handle continued success that well. Mentally we don't get it.

We lack maturity as a whole.
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playa2
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2/15/2007  7:39 AM
Right on cue, The consistent inconsistency has a risen again.

Blame it on ariza he's the delusional one

[Edited by - playa2 on 02-15-2007 07:40]
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2/15/2007  7:54 AM
Posted by nixluva:

IF, and that's a HUGE IF, this team makes the playoffs, they'll be a NIGHTMARE for any team we play. Do you guys just ignore the fact that this team does things that are TAILOR MADE for the playoffs.
lots of turnovers and dont play a lick of defense. Right... perfect for the playoffs indeed.

Seriously... what flavor are you guys drinking

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2/15/2007  9:32 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by nixluva:

IF, and that's a HUGE IF, this team makes the playoffs, they'll be a NIGHTMARE for any team we play. Do you guys just ignore the fact that this team does things that are TAILOR MADE for the playoffs.
lots of turnovers and dont play a lick of defense. Right... perfect for the playoffs indeed.

Seriously... what flavor are you guys drinking

151 and coke. If we made the playoffs, we'd be out in 4 games with out "Tailor made for the playoffs" style.

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2/15/2007  9:38 AM
Posted by nixluva:

IF, and that's a HUGE IF, this team makes the playoffs, they'll be a NIGHTMARE for any team we play. Do you guys just ignore the fact that this team does things that are TAILOR MADE for the playoffs. We have a TRUE post up center and a one of the BEST rebounding teams in the league. WHY would that not work in the playoffs. In what year did those things cease to be very important in the playoffs. We can score in the halfcourt and it's our strength, so how are teams gonna be able to stop us when things slow down and we still have a major advantage inside and CRAZY speed outside? STEPH, JAMAL, FRANCIS and NATE are nearly IMPOSSIBLE to deal with unless you stay in a zone all game. But I remind you that teams have tried to zone us all year and now we're used to it. It's not as effective against us as it once was. You used to see the Knicks out there thinking and not being sure of what to do. Well you don't see that anymore. They are executing much more quickly now and there's a sense of purpose. Teams can't really stop us, but we have to get better at stopping other teams.

I have to laugh when I read so much doubt and negativity in almost every forum on the web. No matter what this team does now, we can't get away from the past. This is not that team anymore. They are gradually getting better and better. By the time the playoffs get here they'll be ready to compete, if they actually make it. Making it will be tough tho. The defense will have to improve even more for this team to be able to increase the winning % enough to overtake teams ahead of us. I'm not sure they can do it, but I think they've got a shot. So far this month they're off to a good start at 3-1.

A team that had so many games in front of them---with so many problems in the east--if they cant make the playoffs--or even come close--that team was not a good team whatever the excuse. This is pure rubbish--make the playoffs and then tell me what a nightmare we would be--finishing 5 games out of an 8 seed and 10 games behind toronto with a 120mm$ payroll-that IS a nightmare! Let's just hope the Bulls stay in free fall:)
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